2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat happens if Bernie gets swept tonight?
Let's say the polls are right and he loses every state.
Where does he go from here?
Will Bernie supporters finally admit that it's pretty much over?
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)No way would it be wise to deny people in a whole bunch of states the opportunity to cast their votes.
We should listen to the words of Hillary -
telling us that having everybody vote is more important.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Autumn
(45,107 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)If he stays within 15% in DE, that's a win for Bernie in the state where a lot of NYSE companies hide for tax purposes.
If he is within 55% in MD, it's a win for Bernie because... black people.
If he ties or is within 3% in RI or CT, that's a HUGE WIN for Bernie, and the supers will start flipping like pancakes.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)You never know these days.
(Just kidding, buzz )
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)But, I was having too much fun and retired. I now pay them $50 per week.
oops... almost forgot:
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)BECAUSE THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE WONDERFUL
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)My ears went up like an infield fly.
I've been trying to get a job collecting unused and unwanted medications.
I'm just trying to be helpful to the community, but I'm not having much luck yet. I'll work for free.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Hillary supporters just get used to it .
Look, we want to be represented too.
Finally, if Hillary really wants to bring this to an end, she could do a lot to reassure Sanders people that they have a place at her table. I haven't heard a lot of that, or really any of that. Just insisting she already is a Progressive. There are issues like TPP where we simply don't believe her.
Make believers of us. Embrace the Sanders-Warren wing of the Democratic Party. We will all be the stronger for it.
ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)Anything she does will be seen as pandering. Why even bother?
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)I mean I'm OK with her being the nominee, but I'll admit that she has a long history of pandering and saying whatever she thinks people will want to hear. I honestly don't know what she could do at this point that would get Sanders supporters to believe that she's on their side. So many of the most vocal Sanders supporters here seem too deeply poisoned against her to ever be satisfied by any shows of progressive solidarity that she could possibly come up with. I don't even know if making him VP would help, and that's probably very unlikely to happen anyway.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Party. I'm not sure her heart can ever be in that, or that she isn't bought and sold too much already.
But she is in charge of her destiny. If she really wants to be great, how about becoming a female FDR? That would be something for the ages. You know, it's not as if FDR didn't come from privilege. He was steeped in it. But he became a champion of the people, and they loved him for it. There were electing him to term after term and there was no end in sight (except for physical issues) and so they had to create an amendment to stop it!
Fuggedabout it!
I would love to support a Hillary presidency, if she was more like FDR. She's got an entire electorate warmed up for the taking. She's just got to step into the mantle, if she wants it. That would be greatness. That would be a Democratic juggernaut. That would unite these two groups that have been fussing and fighting on DU together to become a powerful force.
Not sure she has any interest in that role. But it's hers for the taking. Being the first woman President is definitely history, but this would be Yuuuuuggggeeee in the most delightful way.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)However the more vocal trash and bash crowd are not really trying to get "ANY" Democrat elected this November. Their goal has been to disrupt DU, cause problems, and just plain stir up crap to keep the two camps fighting each other in hopes that many will not vote this November for the nominee, whoever that might be.
They took over the Bernie group way back, and the rational, real Bernie supporters tried to calm them down, but it didn't work. Instead they took over the board and started their scorched earth tactic agains Hillary. All they do is trash and bash, never do they actually discuss the real issues that we face in this race.
The real Democrats, Liberals, and Progressives will come together eventually, and they will do their best to make sure we have a Democrat in the WH come next January, and that's all that really counts.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Every vote must be counted.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)will claim vote fraud, and recalculate how he now wins the nomination. The rest of us will begin fighting the general election. We are known as Democrats.
msongs
(67,420 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Much smaller so less work.
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silvershadow
(10,336 posts)You can't whine. It's their bed. They made it. They can lie in it.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Bernie Logic
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)has left. Let us enjoy feeling good please. Thank you.
Skink
(10,122 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)bamaprogressive
(5 posts)that this primary system has been rigged by the establishment to the point that an insurgent candidate simply cannot win when there's a "consensus" against said candidate.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)That Hillary Clinton got more votes?
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)... that if this site is still around fifty years from now, those then elderly millennials will still be screeching Feel the Bern.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)die. Since I'm 65 now, I hope I never grow up.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)election fraud and Facebook censorship.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Oh wait. Wrong Bernie.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)or otherwise do anything to delegitimize her wins.
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)And you corporatists can try and eke out a November win on your own. No donations, effort, or volunteer hours from this rank and file member.
But I'm being silly. She doesn't need the efforts of us lowly ones.
All hail, the anointed one!
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)have a full and proper primary right to the end so their voices can be heard.
angrychair
(8,702 posts)And Sanders did after losing several in a row, move on to the next states.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)The power of the establishment waning, and change will happen much to the chagrin of Clintonites. The DC gravy train that the third-way crew relies on for their personal fortunes will soon be leaving the station on a one way trip to oblivion.
PufPuf23
(8,791 posts)Something of substance to disqualify or otherwise prevent Hillary Clinton from accepting the Democratic may occur but is unlikely.
Even if something was to occur with Hillary Clinton, I think it likely that the Democratic leadership would attempt and likely succeed in side stepping Sanders as Party nominee.
The conventions of both Parties may prove to be entertaining and one hopes not a disaster.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)brooklynite
(94,598 posts)...up from 58.
Oh, and we'll always have California.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I can't even begin to figure out how that last one qualified.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)And, then, in the end --and not before then -- I will support Hillary. I live in NJ and we vote the same day as CA (June 7th) and barring Bernie throwing in the towel, I will fully support Sanders until that time.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)A lot of people need to be paid and there are lots of expense going forward.
I hope he sticks it out, he has been a great champion for the 99%.