Well, if that's really the case I take it Hillary has suspended her primary election campaign.

Why spend millions of corporate and Wall Street dollars when it's wrapped up?

So when did the Democratic Party declare Hillary the nomination winner. Guess we all missed that!

The General Election campaign doesn't until after Hillary or Bernie has won the nomination. She can't secure enough elected (pledged) delegates before the convention so the Democratic Party won't decide before the convention who they will run for President.

That's just how it works.

Don't like those rules?

Change them.

I'm sorry, that's utter filth.

And the fight for nomination is going to be over on June 7th. The super delegates won't move. Yes, they haven't cast their votes. Neither have the automatic delegates. She will have it all locked up.

Seek help for your derangement. Seriously, this is messed up.

50+ year Democratic voter, supporter and activist here. I am a Sanders supporter, but as a long time party member, I have legitimate concerns about Clinton. I am VERY worried about the FBI investigation. It is unprecedented to have such an investigation on-going during a presidential campaign, with the Democratic frontrunner at the center of it. If the FBI doesn't come forth with a report with conclusions and recommendation to indict or not indict, before the GE, and Clinton wins the GE (which I think--and polls confirm--is dubious), but if she does, she's liable to be presented with Articles of Impeachment on the day after her inauguration. What will she be able to get done for us working people and poor people THEN?

I'm pretty well-informed about the FBI investigation, and, as I said, very concerned about nominating someone with such a cloud over her, and who could conceivable get indicted, or get mired in the indictments of her aides, before, during or after the convention. But I hadn't thought about her health. I had had some vague misgivings about her appearance. She sometimes looks puffy and unhealthy and, frankly, she sometimes looks drugged up. But I hadn't thought of specific illnesses, as laid out in this OP's list. I certainly don't wish her health to fail. I have strong ethical constraints against wishing any such thing, against anybody. But it is now more of a concern to me than it was before--as to her fitness to be president. It seems like she's absent from the campaign trail for long periods, and we just don't see, in her, the obvious vigor of Bernie Sanders who is older.

Anyway, please have some respect for this old Democrat, whose history with the Democratic Party goes back to 1960 when I canvassed for JFK at age 16. That's a long time to be participating in and observing our nation's political life. I, and I know many others my age, and wise and informed people of all kinds, are worried about a number of things with Clinton, besides the aura of scandal and corruption around her--her "baggage"--and her cozying up to people like Robert Kagan (PNAC--chief Neo-Con, architect of the Bush junta's blueprint for military domination of the ME and the world), her probable lie about the TPP (she will enact it, no matter what she says from day to day), and her involvement in major disasters like Honduras and Libya. Can she even conduct the business of government, with her health and being dogged by the RW morons Congress? Will she or won't she be indicted before, during or after the convention, or be so crippled by this (yet another) scandal that she loses the GE? Her favorability and trustworthy numbers are so bad that, add another scandal, and she may well get demolished in the GE.

Is that what we want?

O'Malley is definitely getting the nomination.

Hillary will get indicted. Bernie will suffer a stroke and get sent to a care home. Then it's O'Malley's time to shine.













(the above has about as much chance of happening as any of the scenarios in the OP where Bernie would get the nomination).

Sanders is entitled to go into the convention with as many delegates as he can earn, and his supporters back him. If Clinton can't sustain a primary battle, she sure can't win a GE.... She'll ask Trump to drop out in Oct? LOL!

That doesn't happen until July 29th.

It will be called...on this site. AS it was, in 08.

Predict all you like; it's too bad we don't have one of those office pools going around.

Calling "it" on this site will not make it "General Election season." That doesn't start until July 29th. Calling "it" on this site simply means that we won't talk about the primaries any more ON THIS SITE. Of course, doing so before all Democrats actually get to participate in their own primary would be supremely undemocratic; but then, so many of those that call themselves Democrats don't value democratic principles.

Rooting this hard for poor health and/or the indictment of the presumptive nominee is really bad form.

Sid

It's just that they don't seem to have noticed that their port is a rickety lean-to that was swept out to sea months ago.

Its the old ladies that are to frail to be President, don't you know?

This is officially the shittiest, nastiest thing I've seen posted here on a while. You should be ashamed of yourself and if I saw you in person I would yell at you about this until you realized just how low you've sunk.

Filth.

I wonder if the OP will apologize for this. I'm not holding my breath.

If anything, the OP is much nastier than what Clinton said eight years ago.

because no one here is running for president?

It's hypocritical to criticize Hillary for making a statement eight years ago that could be interpreted as an offensive statement, and then make that same statement much more directly against her. Either it's an offensive statement, or it's not. You can't have it both ways.

if someone followed you around with a camera for 40 years, analyzing and publicizing every single thing you said?

hope. I presented an opinion on that.

The FBI investigation point is crap and you know it.

As to the general issue about the super delegates not being actually locked up, they will be immovable from her once California is in, regardless of its outcome, because she'll be ahead in votes and pledged delegates. These are elected officials and other DNC dignitaries. They're not going to overturn the will of the Democratic electorate. It's over come June 7th, almost no matter what.

have to answer to Hillary Clinton, or William Clinton or Wall Street for their votes.

Drink some warm milk and take a long nap. Rest.

But since it's about Hillary, it's all good.

Time to CALL IT Skinner!!

A swift Constitutional Convention could be held, and our nation could decide to have the primaries decided by a dance-off, and the GE decided by a UFC octagon cage match.

Intelligent apes could conquer the nation.

This summer, Sea World might kick it up a notch by introducing genetically modified dinosaurs to the park.

Bernie Sanders might win Powerball and retire to Florida.

It's garbage to be desperately holding out hope that somebody dies just so your favored candidate can win. It says a lot about the author and the people forwarding it on.

Are you actually rooting for these scenarios????

I proudly voted for Bernie but some of his fellow supporters disgust me when they post or say crap like this.

And yes, some are actually routing for these outlandish scenarios.

It really twisted

1) .00001 %. She has never had a compelling illness. Bernie, at age 162, is far more likely to develop one than Hillary.
2) 1%. Highly unlikely there is anything here.
3) 0%. The NY Times wrote a huge article on the money and it went pffff....
4) 0%. The odds that Hillary's speeches contain a knockout blow are nil.
5) 0% The Super D's will switch even though Clinton has won far more delegates? Huh?

or does nobody go to those groups anymore.

To be the nominee or they will vaporize America....

Anyone silly enough to believe the premise of the OP should open an Irish brokerage account and put their money where their mouth is. Predictwise has Clinton at 98% to be the nominee which means that you would get great odds http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination In other words, the free market system and the smart money making a market here do not think that any of the options listed above are going to happen.

scandal or health failings (and Hillary refuses to bail out) the super delegates will vote AT LEAST 50% + 1 for the winner of the pledged delegates.

#5 is essentially covered by #1, #2, and possibly #4.

I'm beginning to think it might actually happen. Joe DiGenova says that there is already a grand jury and they are in fact gathering the info and testimony to investigate all angles. He says that this is not about emails. It is about that server and the handling of it. He says espionage not data is the issue. IF you get a chance, you should watch the c=span video. It is very insightful and full of information that is not publicly known. Very good information.

That one seems a it too negative. I pretty much hate her, but I would not want something bad to happen to her. It just seems like when she was waxing lyrical about Bobby getting assassinated in June. I think all we need is enough of a wake-up call to our voters, if something comes out that is hard for the press to ignore and her fire wall of paid DNC delegates...her house of cards would collapse. I think the last one is the current thing that will happen. It should be moved to the top. Not sure if I like him taking the superdelegates, but she cheated with them at the start so it is kind of a stolen election already. I would still want people openly calling for her to drop out because all of her corruption finally caught up to her, otherwise the HRC camp will be fractured.

and New York, Arizona and Mass end up actually going to Bernie. Just thought I'd help. Until they throw me out of her for not getting onboard Her Majesty's train.

No sense of civility or what is appropriate to post on a Democratic site. Hoping a host of bad things to happen to Hillary is one more indication how low civil discourse on this board has fallen. Nothing but nasty people wishing ill on others.

This is a Democratic site, there should be some level of respect and civility among its members. Just like in the real world, common courtesy and good manners seem to have gone the way of the VCR.

if she is indicted before the convention, the gop - which is pushing for an indictment will have bernie running in the general election against whatever gop candidate wins the nomination. none of them can win against bernie in the general. but, they can win against hillary.

the last thing the the gop goons want is a democratic socialist in the white house.

All of your scenarios involve Hillary losing herself...Bernie can not 'win'. He needs a larger event to get the nomination. Her health is fine and she won't be indicted...none of that will happen...as for the pledged delegates...that is not an issue and you know it...the Supers will go with the candidate with the most delegates and put them over the top...this happened in 2008 with Obama. This post is not helpful in our new priority...beating the Republicans.