2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumwe have five weeks to organize California
you know what that is?
yeah you do.
that is an eternity.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)They have already said its over. That nothing California does will make any matter at all. I am done with politics. Its all corrupt and big money influenced. I am sure there will be voter suppression here as well... I am waiting for it, I am done with it.
reddread
(6,896 posts)I sure hope not.
California will lead the way again.
thank you New York!
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)ITS ALL RIGGED. You don't get it, its ALREADY bought and paid for.
reddread
(6,896 posts)but the last half century tells us enough to know where the problem is.
hell, the last 20 years do.
what they did to America.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)a banana Republic, no better than some back water south america country where the all OF IT is bought and paid for, probably bought by all the cocaine they been smuggling in since the war on drugs started.
reddread
(6,896 posts)who would want that?
some people just want a job.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)INFORMED THE PEOPLE BECOME! THE CAT IS CLIMBING OUTA THE DAMN BAG! THE SHIT IS EXPOSED! ALL OF IT!
reddread
(6,896 posts)it is and it has been all along.
his future successes may be massive, but to date he
has done yeoman's work exposing the rot, and we need to
set the bar higher for voter information and stem the heavy hand of corporate
control. It is not too hard to explain or discuss the quality of our news services
when discussing Bernie Sanders candidacy.
hit them where they live.
their bullshit reputations.
they hate that shit.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)as hard as we can and not let up.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)is bought and paid for. This country is no better than some backwater, south American Banana Republic. The fix was in long time ago, and Frankly I am done with politics.
reddread
(6,896 posts)some apparently more than others.
it is a charade and a puppet show and a dog and pony sex act.
now what are you going to do about it?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)WHAT ALL MY fellow Asian grand parents have been telling us for years, ...its ALL Corrupt. all of it, and we may as well go back to the silence we gave when we first came to this country.. keep our heads down low and be invisible. You guys own the system... shit, we may as all go back to Asia for all I care.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)no matter what happens. No one has crossed the finish line yet. Think of how far we have come with EVERYBODY
AGAINST US. Kind of amazing if you ask me. Please, hang in there with the rest of us and don't despair.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Its rigged to the max. Both Republicans and Democrats doing voter suppression, whose the good guy? WHose the bad guy? no one because they are all doing it, I had enough of politics for a life time! I am going back to doing what I always done, is be in tuned with MY culture, cause I hate what this country has become. No better than some back water, south american banana Republic. And, its treats its people that way too. I am done.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)two ways. Become the humanitarian place we should be, or total useless corrupt piece of crap it has become. I believe this is our last shot. If we screw this up, we become Somalia at best. I get that its rigged, has been for a long while. People are finally
waking up to that fact. This is our only chance to maybe fix it. Just me being optomistic
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)and its people like some in this thread who forced MY FRIENDS off this websites. The few Asians that are here, they forced them off. I don't even know why I bother to stay, except I want to help people understand my culture.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Putting aside how much you just insulted South America, if you think our country is such a backwater (one word by the way) banana republic, why are you here?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)just like you to question an Asian American as to why they are here and why don't you go back to fucking Asia, if you don't like it. SO now you are exposed. I am so glad people will now see that and YOU CAN'T FUCKING take it back.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)CA votes late and the result is often already obvious by the time it does. I mean sure it's still technically possible for Sanders to win if lots of states vote for him by enormous margins, but the probability of that happening is very very low. In the aggregate people are very predictable, so while you can't be sure of the outcome of any given contest you can generally predict whether it's going to be close or not, barring major surprises like a candidate dropping out suddenly.
There are other explanations besides the possibility that it's all rigged. Public choice theory basically argues that politics and governance is so damn complicated that the vast majority of voters can't be bothered to figure it out and vote on the shallowest possible criteria like which candidate is more charismatic. Rational irrationality theory argues that since many people's votes don't actually count due to demographics (eg being a Dem ina deep red state or vice versa) that people actually have an incentive to vote perversely.
Political science is quite interesting when you bear in mind that humans are biological creatures and are surprisingly predictable on the group level.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)dignify your question with a response. You certainly don't deserve anything from me.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Please consider that my heart has been bent, folded and mutilated over years. You are getting a sense of what happens when people are severely threatened.
The point is, they have all the paid trolls out now wanting you to be distracted. I would put them all on ignore so that you can talk to sane people here. I don't give a crap to deal with them, and neither should you.
That way, you'll find out that what you are feeling now is just a result of a bunch of jackasses trying to discourage you. Trolls...
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I WILL REMAIN in the ASIAN GROUP, BUT FUCK ALL OF THIS... i AM done.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I understand.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)and power to the people and it will not be overpowered by rovian tricks.
Joob
(1,065 posts)You know there's a path, you know they want you and all voters to THINK the way you do. You fall right into the palm of their hands like a little sheep. They don't want you to vote unless it's for Their candidate. It's not over. Nevr give up, Never surrender! Hell, it'll just be getting started after the nominee is chosen and guess what? They don't choose the narrative if we know it's being written. We, the people choose that. So I suggest you stand up for your right to vote, be bold.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)before the race begun.
and over and over.
Oh, NOW you're right.
Mind if I double check?
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)One of the worst SOS mistakes. How could anyone be that irresponsible?
Poor decision making ... I think we've seen enough of that shit.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)It almost smells like roasted finch.
reddread
(6,896 posts)tasteless is an acquired taste, I presume.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)It's not like a Facebook block. All it really means is that I'll have the last word on anything you and I disagree on and you think I should be concerned about that?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)who make DU suck.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)instigator since day one. I don't have to listen to any of the stuff you say.. and i am REALLY holding myself back for saying what I really think. YOUR GRAVE DANCING SUCKS.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I came on here talking about my very serious concerns about Bernie's vatican visit, most of which hadn't even been addressed, which were my concerns and issues and not some Hillary party line and I got called a paid troll, a sock account for other people, stupid, slow, and every other horrid thing. Look at my post history. I started out rather nice, but hey, I give as good as I get. You Bernie people have literally heaped abuse on me for weeks and every other Hillary supporter here for months and I've been lurking here since '08 so I've seen how this all has gone down over the past year and it's disgusting.
So why hold back? Take your best shot.
And, short of the way so many you have treated Hillary's fans on this site, I don't care what you think of me, or of what I do, or what I don't do. Say whatever you like. It's all been said before.
And finally, kudos to one of you finally admitting that it is a grave. His campaign is done.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)baaaaaaaaaka.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)... so long as you do it in Japanese?
I'm glad I understand the rules.
Did you miss this one?
Yeah, that's your candidate.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TALK TO YOU!
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)But I can definitely say I'm enjoying the show.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)That's how you are apparently.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I'm sure you folks enjoyed fraudulently timing out and hiding me and numerous other Hillary supporters . Just cuz you throw the steak on the table doesn't mean you get to say how we season it.
I've never started a fight, but I sure have finished a few.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)WOW, KEEP IT UP... keep it the fuck up so people can see how you are.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)You've insulted our country, insulted Hillary supporters, insulted our process and pretty much insulted whatever you could insult. And you're concerned about how *I* am?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Eh?
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)I can't say it without being hidden, and I won't give you the satisfaction.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Your inner feelings are starting to mean something to me and I want you to feel like you can share.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Yeah, I hear that's against TOS or something, but I and a so many others have been called that so many times that I can't even count how many so if that's whatcha got, don't worry. They won't hide you.
If it's some bigoted commentary about my beliefs or lifestyle, that's just rich since you only know it because I got sick of being called a paid troll. I guess I can't win for losing, can I?
MFM008
(19,808 posts)Im a HRC supporter.
look we all can read the numbers.
No need to be exceptionally annoying.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I'm just tired of being put on the defensive with abusive hides and constant accusations, but ultimately it's just not that important to me what these people think. The most extreme among them were never, ever going to vote for Hillary. They are the types who vote Green and only joined in on the Bernie brigade because he was pretty much a Green.
I think the ones who can come together in all of this WILL come together because NONE of them are going to want Trump.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)So how come you care so much?
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)They see more $27 donations coming their way to line their pockets.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I have a few messages... They're from my heart and someone else's heart near and dear to you and no longer expressing himself here.
My message: Take time off from work if you're not unemployed and get into this FULL as you can. I worked hard under a Sanders field director to contact others and then get out the vote. Lots of people will tell you they will help, and if you don't STAY on them, they will get off task. It's like being a teacher. Keep it together and be organized while being your nice self.
The other message...
I love you, California. I hope my nephew is reading this instead of gaming.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Your waiting time is like, forever... Have a day.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)lmbradford
(517 posts)He is on Washington Journal and he answers a lot of legal questions and gives a lot of insight into what is going on with those servers. He says it isn't about email classification, it is about espionage. You should check it out.
Link http://www.c-span.org/video/?406228-4/washington-journal-joseph-digenova-hillary-clinton-emails
MFM008
(19,808 posts)is a right wing hack.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Please proceed though.