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Gothmog

(145,242 posts)
1. What Attacks? The Clinton Campaign have been treating Sanders with kid gloves
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:19 PM
Apr 2016

The concept that the Clinton campaign has been very negative on Sanders is simply false when you look at what Sanders would be subject to if he was the Democratic nominee. VOX had a good article on the potential lines of attack that Sanders would be exposed to if Sanders was the nominee. http://www.vox.com/2016/2/3/10903404/gop-campaign-against-sanders One of the more interesting observations in the VOX analysis is the fact that Sanders have been treated with kids gloves compared to what Sanders would face if he was the Democratic nominee. I strongly agree with the VOX's position that the so-called negative attacks against Sander have been mild. Form the article:

I have no interest in litigating any of these attacks here. Like any Democrat elected president in 2016, Sanders wouldn't be able to get much done, but he would block attempts to roll back Obama's accomplishments and have a chance to fill a few Supreme Court vacancies.

When Sanders supporters discuss these attacks, though, they do so in tones of barely contained outrage, as though it is simply disgusting what they have to put up with. Questioning the practical achievability of single-payer health care. Impugning the broad electoral appeal of socialism. Is nothing sacred?

But c'mon. This stuff is patty-cakes compared with the brutalization he would face at the hands of the right in a general election.

His supporters would need to recalibrate their umbrage-o-meters in a serious way.

The attacks that would be levied against Sanders by the Kochs, the RNC candidate and others in a general election contest would make the so-called attacks against Sanders look like patty-cakes. The GOP and Kochs are not known for being nice or honest and as the article notes there are a ton of good topics available for attack. Raising taxes is never a good campaign platform (Just ask President Mondale). The GOP would also raise the socialism and age issues if Sanders was the nominee.

Again, I agree with the VOX position that so far, Sanders has not been subject to negative attacks close to what the GOP would use against Sanders and the attacks against Sanders if he was the nominee would be brutal. I urge Sanders supporters to read the VOX article to start to get a feel for what real negative attacks would look like.
 

think

(11,641 posts)
3. Clinton told half lies like a pro. That's not kid gloves. The CFMA vote lie was horrendous.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:26 PM
Apr 2016
The Most Disingenuous Attack on Bernie Yet

Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:00
By The Daily Take Team, The Thom Hartmann Program | Op-Ed


If you watched Sunday's Democratic debate, you learned something interesting about Bernie Sanders: he voted for the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, something Hillary Clinton was all too eager to point out when the two of them got to talking about Wall Street reform.

Sounds pretty bad, right? The guy who goes on and on about how bad Wall Street is actually voted for the bill that crashed economy. So much for all that "political revolution" stuff.

But here's the thing: Hillary Clinton isn't telling a true story about Bernie Sanders and his vote for the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, or CFMA.

~Snip~

The CFMA had been shoved into an omnibus spending bill at the last minute as part of a deal between Republicans and President Bill Clinton, and because this was a time when, you know, Congress actually did its job, Sanders bit the bullet and voted for the whole package - CFMA included - to keep the government open.

~Snip~

During his time at the Treasury, Gensler had pushed hard for Wall Street deregulation and even helped write the CFMA, something now-Senator Bernie Sanders found unacceptable. And so Bernie moved to block Gensler's nomination. Sanders explained his actions during an appearance on Democracy Now.

~Snip~

So what's Gary Gensler - the guy who promoted the CFMA - up to today? Oh, you know, nothing big. He's just the chief financial officer of the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Yep, that's right, the CFO of the Hillary Clinton Campaign!...

Read more:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/34497-the-most-disingenuous-attack-on-bernie-yet

.99center

(1,237 posts)
5. She successfully labeled a Civil Rights activist
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:02 PM
Apr 2016

As a racist. One of the most artful smears of all time! If the msm is anti-Hillary why wasn't the simple question of "where was Hillary" asked? Yeah, over the line, we all did stupid things like fight against equal rights when we were teenagers.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
6. this
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:04 PM
Apr 2016

He's still out there with a path to nomination. He's got the money and the crowds.

She knows it, and she hates it.

Go Bernie!

Response to grasswire (Reply #6)

athena

(4,187 posts)
7. I get e-mails from both campaigns
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:07 PM
Apr 2016

because early on I supported both equally and donated to both.

In the past week or more, I have not gotten a message from the Hillary campaign even mentioning Bernie, except for the time when Bernie made false claims about her campaign.

On the contrary, Bernie had been attacking her non-stop until today. In today's e-mail, which I skimmed very quickly, he didn't seem to attack her. That should send a message to all of his supporters here. The time to attack is past. It's time to unite. You can continue to work for and donate to Bernie, but at this point, attacks will only hurt the Democratic Party in the general election.

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