I think most HRC supporters on DU would choose McCain.

ON CSPAN LAST NIGHT. I's and T's being crossed as we speak... The Frogmarch is just around the corner...

He has been caught lying back to the Clinton years.

Nothing but a GOP mouthpiece . . . and now a mouthpiece for some DUers

I supported her until it became evident she was done, at which time I turned my energies to supporting Obama. The PUMAs disgusted me, just as the BoB people do now.

This person claims to have hated Obama, which is ridiculous -- I didn't hate him any more than I hate Sanders; I just felt Clinton was the better choice. In 2008 my fellow Democrats disagreed. Not a problem.

And as far as all the "neophyte/wait his turn" nonsense? Pure idiocy and unrepresentative of the way THIS Clinton backer felt.

As for the original post, well, I know too much of what you have stood for here on DU to ever believe I share goals and values with you.

I have difficulty faking amnesia.

I also find this OP condescending and more convenient for the poster's candidate than heartfelt.

"No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up." Lily Tomlin

Obama was a change from that, sort of. At least it looked like he would be, until he started making appointments. Now, here we are, eight years later and still engaged in several illegal wars started under Bush.

But at least we moved a little bit forward. Now, we are moving backward, electing someone who is responsible for the problems we have.

Not going to end well.

Our stories are very similar, I too was with team HRC in 08. You've captured the sentiments exactly. To Bernie's supporters, I too promise it does get better, hang in there.

You live in one of the countries that Hillary decides to "obliterate."

We know it will get better for corporate America once their Golden Girl hands them the keys to the treasury.

If you're a working stiff, the Clintonists are going to screw you six ways from Sunday. Say goodbye to Social Security.

and she is qualified.

To carry on the bush-Cheney-Kissinger et al dynasty.

Can't imagine anyone more qualified except maybe Condi Rice.

I'll bet ole' Dick is doing wheelies in his wheelchair about now!

Cher

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” - Frank Zappa

I agree.

Thank you, Jeff.

Enjoy your free bus ride, right smack into that brick wall.

Cher

You should alert that.

As far as you secretly wanting McCain to win?!



That's sick. It explains so much @ Hillary supporters that they're this deranged.

And I mean that. I don't think you understand the 1st thing about what's driving this movement.

serve my interests best.

I don't see how it is going to get better if we are hawked into another war. I have two boys and nephews and this scares the living crap out of me. I dread seeing Chained CPI on Social Security or the TPP going through. I don't trust her and with good reason.

When there is another chance.

Right now, it isn't pain.. it's disappointment that this party has gone so far to the right.

But, they won't win in 2016, and trump will be a disaster as president, which will give the democrats another opportunity to go the correct direction in 2020.

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]What I do have an issue with, is the people calling for this to be over when Bernie hasn't even conceded yet or the convention.

Before some people have even had a chance to vote...

I thought this was the democratic party? Lets act like it![/font]

HRC diehard. Thanks for allowing us into your world. I had some suspicions that the idea that it is now "her turn" was driving this mass dereliction of the truth that HRC supporters are practicing, but now I have some evidence. I know you do not speak for all HRC supporters but any glimpse into the mind of someone who can vote for this ... lady... is valuable. Thank you.

The hurt will continue until we rid our government of the Fat Cat Oligarchy that are bringing us poverty, homelessness and joblessness. Maybe you can feel better, but I still see 2.5 million American children living in poverty and see those numbers increasing as Wall Street continues to gouge the 99% of our resources.

I am sickened by the hubris and arrogance of the Clinton supporters. And then the audacity to demand the Left that they've ridiculed and disparaged fall in line.

so will our pain. Try to get this into your skull: this never was about Bernie, it was about our lives. Our Society. Our future. And the Democratic establishment has shown they don't care about our lives. Our Society. Our future.

So I'm still hoping that by some miracle, Bernie will get the nomination. He should. Clinton is a GE disaster waiting to happen.

policy positions are light years apart. These two candidates are in no way interchangeable. Myself, I think very hard about the records and positions of the people I support for political positions. I did not vote for Obama in 2008 or 2012 and I will not vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I have been a registered Democrat all my voting life.

There is something wrong with that mentality.

A candidate's platform is most important. Assuming they can be trusted to stick to it.

No wonder you support Hillary. No hope or change there. We are needing real hope and change now more than ever in our corrupt system of money in politics.

Why would I expect things to get better when the reasons I'm not for Hillary remain the same?
She hasn't had a come to Jesus moment and I don't expect that she truly will. I want a President that cares what the people need and want. We don't need more corporate rulership and wars, trade agreements, cutting welfare and SS benefits, global climate change, and bank crashes.

The fight continues no matter who wins the White House, there is too much at stake and too much to do. Unfortunately if it's not Bernie as president then our work becomes much more difficult in the years ahead. I won't fall in line with policies I totally disagree with, and neither will many other people. Being President in the years to come may not be as fun as she thinks, especially if the public remains involved. We better remain involved if we want a chance to return to democracy.

and you realise Bernie is kinda cool and his supporters were more or less right about how corrupt the Clintons became.

Trump cannot win over Mrs. Clinton, but in as much as I would have preferred Mr. Sanders, I will take Mrs. Clinton in a heart beat over racist trump!

Yes, he can, my fried.

I must say, it's quite weird having such an unacceptable choice in one's own party. Oops , maybe they took my party from me, too.

Cher

Run along and am not sorry if you are hurting. When you hate, you hurt your ownself!

This is a thinly veiled attempt at "unity" just days after they once again injected race in multiple OPs and posted some fairly awful garbage.

The systemic cancers that plague this country- unbridled greed by the ruling class, the endless war, the support of this entire way of life by the MIC...

These will continue. Business as usual.

Congratulations. I hope it's everything you imagine it to be.

As the earth will be certainly hurting.

Either of those two choices will be perfectly fine with me.

That's as far as I could stomach to read.

...the reasons I support Sanders are the exact opposite reasons I can't support Clinton. Good luck with her...we're all going to need it.

People here are making about Bernie supporters.

I'm still with Bernie as long as he's in it to win it -- or to make an impact of he doesn't.

I gotta admit though, this one is really hard for some of us, because it is not just a competition between two candidates. It's been symbolic of much bigger issues.

Personally, I think Bernie does represent the kind of people we need in politics. Someone who says what he thinks, rather than mouthing carefully tested platitudes. You don't feel he is avoiding saying something just to appeal to a particular demographic, or avoid offending anyone, or protecting some political backers.

He also does what he believes in....Even if he does something "political" like his positions on guns, or get a military project steered to Vermont, he''s upfront about it, and tell you he is doing it for pragmatic reasons and to represent the voters in his state.

I won't get into Clinton bashing here, except to say she is the opposite of what I said about Bernie.

I realize Bernie's not everyone's cup of tea. And I realize some people like Clinton. That's politics.

Buit this has taken on a wider significance.

What really is my problem is that she is so enmeshed with a matrix of economic and political elites who had ruined this country. They have stifled debate and action on core issues of concentrated Wealth and Power, and how that affects almost every otehr issues. They represent the systemic corruption that has made government unresponsive to the needs of average people and teh disadvantaged.

Sanders presented an opportunity to shift course, and restore real competition between the left and right halves of the spectrum -- and pull the center to the REAL center, instead of the conservative center.

Have to lick some wounds. I'm disappointed (once again) and have to let time heal wounds, as you said.

I do know I will feel very lukewarm about the competition between the Red and Blue team and the Clinton and Trump Steel Cage Death Match. My only real support for Clinton will be the obligatory vote to keep out Trump.

then it's NOT getting better. I refuse to support someone who is bankrolled by the very forces that are bent on destroying poor & working-class Americans.

I have a conscience, and it won't allow be to be whored out on behalf of corporate interests and the military-industrial complex. Save the faux-empathetic gestures for your fellow travelers come November 9th, when America wakes up after having picked the racist asshole corporatist over the corrupt war-mongering corporatist.

exploits LGBT Americans and this OP seems to be a jab at us as well, 'It Gets Better' being a famous campaign against LGBT teen depression and suicide.

Repulsive rhetorical instincts you demonstrate in both threads. Definitive of the Hillary Culture.

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