2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUnity Vs. Issues - The Dilemma if "Coming together" is supposed to mean silence and avoidence
The message seems to be we have to "come together" and "heal the split" and unite behind Clinton and pivot to the General to Stop Trump.
I agree in theory that it's important at some point to pool resources and Stop Trump (or whomever the GOP nominates).
But what does that mean? There is a fundamental dilemma. We can agree that Trump and the GOP are awful. We can agree on some specific issues easily. We can constructively debate the details of certain goals, and how to implement them.
But we do not agree that the system merely needs "tweaking." The house needs some structural renovaton, not just a coat of paint.
I got an unsettling glimpse of what the Democratic Establishment wants to see on one of those TV political panels. It was a "cross section" of pundits from the conventional wisdom machine.It was so familiar. And so depressingly empty.
They all agreed it was time for "unity." Bernie has run a great campaign, and made an important contribution. But now we have to come together to Stop Trump...."And we see that happening. People are putting their differences behind them to work together to elect Hillary."....and the rest of the conversation were the usual platitudes of how awful Trump is, and how Democrats "share a progressive vision........"blah, blah,blah.......
Um, no. Not that easy.
One of the big reasons that Sanders has gotten so far is that he has given expression to a set of corer principles and values -- and a dose of real reality -- in the mainstream campaign that the Democratic Establishment has been suppressing for about 30 years. Concentration of Wealth and Power, Systemic Bipartisan Corruption.......the Loss of Human and Social Values in politics and government. You've heard his stump speech.
If put into practice, that agenda Can re-energize the Democratic Party, and restore a healthy balance in our political system and government -- and revitalize democracy and improve the nation.
But it also threatens the Elite Status Quo. That doesn't mean destroying the system or totally changing everything. But it means a major course change for the Democratic Party, in terms of reorienting to truly populist liberalism and progressive policies. Shaking off the chains that bind it to the Elite Corproate and Wall St. Oligarchs, and start to be accountable to the People again.
I realize that is simplistic sounding -- but it is a fundamental key to how all other issues are handled. It means that legislation is no longer written by lobbyists. It means no longer colluding with Big Bidness to write secret Trade Con Jobs. It means taking on and broadening the economic base beyond the monopolistic corporations and banks.....ETC.
The problem is that this is NOT Clinton's agenda. She says the right things on some issues, and does the right things on some issues. But she does not want to fundamental change or reform the system, because she is a product of that system.
That's the dilemma.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)There is no suture or stitch for this.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Something Bernie and his fans have neglected. What good is one Socialist in the WH when you have 60 tea party senators. How about a Dem in the WH and 60 progressives in the senate. House/Senate write budgets and laws. I think some are vastly overstating the power of the presidency.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)It is not about putting "one socialist in the White House"......It extends throughout the system and how democrats operate in Congress and in state levels too. That is part of the "revolution" Sanders is talking about.
Same dynamic applies at all levels. We know that. Stop implying that we don't.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Thats where the change happens.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Please stop implying that Sanders supporters are too dumb to know that. It's one of the major themes of his campaign.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Apparently it's not resonating. Whether it's (not) voting for friendly judges in Wisconsin or voting FOR Chris Van Hollen instead of Donna Edwards, they seem to be missing opportunities (if not missing the boat entirely.) Bernie's lack of financial support to help all down-ticket candidates be more competitive, and restricting his endorsements to only those who specifically endorse him in return is also notable, and it conflicts with the notion that Bernie is actually concerned with down-ticket party-building.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)When you have $3,000 a plate fundraising events for well heeled backers (with $300,000 option for a photo) and bundlers, and big corporate funded SuperPacs it's easy to siphon money elsewhere.
Sanders is running a campaign funded by schmucks like me who don't have that kind of money to toss around. I want him to spend the little bit I send on his campaign, and I'll also choose who else to support as I can.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... his "quid pro quo" style of endorsements, and not even lending his name, photo or signature to fundraising efforts on behalf of down-ticket candidates seems a bit selfish and short-sighted to me.
Oh well. Lessons learned, I guess. Maybe the next "Bernie Sanders" type of Democrat will have better luck (assuming, of course, that all those who've protested by re-registering as "Green" will remember to change their registration back to "Democrat" in time for the primaries.)