Even if she is the nominee, just as you believe it has to be Hillary. I simply disagree because I wouldn't feel safe and trust Hillary with our military.

There's also evidence suggesting she used the State Department as a tool for the Clinton foundation. I simply don't want POTUS to become another tool. She said she wants a No-Fly zone in Syria I don't understand why, it would increase tension and we'd have to send troops over there to watch in 24/7, I believe it's around 70,000 troops for a No-Fly Zone.

I also think she lacks foresight that's needed to be in that position.

And will continue to believe that if it comes down to that. Most of this election is Anti-Establishment for a reason. There's agendas being made for corporations, not people. That's just how I see it and many others.

With adjustments of course, like getting more people to vote that attend his rallies, and a more unique message encouraging people to vote. I don't think he would use the same speeches if he ran third party.

I'm for Bernie, but I will support Hillary as a duty. I don't think most of the Bernie supporters saying they will vote for tRump are actually going to. This is a poll I posted a while ago : http://www.poll-maker.com/results662475x291a115A-27#tab-2

Its reassuring. The question was "If Bernie isn't the nominee, how will you vote?"

Please stop repeating that lie. Their other candidates to vote for in a general election. As amazing as that mightnsound there are other parties besides Dem and Rep!

If the democrats want vote they have to run a viable candidate. They choose Hillary early on. Their choice good on them. Now we Americans get to vote in the general for WHO WE CHOOSE! That's how voting works in America!

More would be voting for a third party or not voting. For independents that are worried about work or war Trump has been a bit more solid than her since for a republicans to talk against war or talk against shipping jobs away means way more than a democrat since those are things a Democrat should be against...but Hillary is not.(I am not saying there is any truth in his words, they are both politicians and can't be trusted, they both were in that whole Obama a muslim cr@p)

I would say it like this, a person staunchly against the wars, against more death, against using our own people to kill other people or be killed...there is no way they will vote for Hillary. I saw the vet snap in our caucus...there is no way in hell he will ever vote for Hillary, especially after the HRC voters there called him a sexist for not voting for her...he was physically shaking. It is amazing how privileged some of us are to do such things...not sure if he would vote for Trump as most of us also hated the things Trump said...but you can bet he will never vote for Hillary after that.

will come slowly and not hurt.

The growing wealth gap is literally killing people with poverty and lack of health care. It's figuratively killing our thriving middle class and working class, reducing the 99% into a class of serfs.

Clinton is part of the problem not the solution. We have to draw the line somewhere and stand and fight. Is 50 million living in poverty that line?

The next SCOUS justice might vote to overturn marriage equality.


I don't care if this post gets hidden.


If you call Hillary Clinton a tyrant you are an extremely stupid person.

And I think that a Wall Street run government won't care about social justice issues. And if they continue to steal our resources we will end up paupers and won't be able to fight for social justice.

Gay rights are social justice.


Hillary actually had a plan to reform Wall Street. She is calling for higher taxes on the wealthy.

Sometimes you people sound like this


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She won't tax her close friends in the 1%.

... She got that wrong.

There is not a legislator in any democratic nation in the world that hasn't taken votes they have later regretted.

her close friends that she fully knew what she was doing. Did she believe the Bush lies? not a chance. Did she see wealth for her friends from the War, BINGO.

She has never shown any empathy for those affected by her vote. Now she is super wealthy and looking for more.

Hillary says she has this in the bag, and doesn't need Bernie's supporters.....do you think she just forgot to tell her fans?

Good advice from Takei.

I never expected Bernie to win the nomination.

Democratic ideals. Imagine that...

Hey George, look out for that huge Bus!!!

Looking down thread, the outraged are raging.

There is no raging down thread. So people don't agree. Everyone was nice and polite. Noi one threw George under any bus except one Clinton supporters implication we would. Get over yourself. So we didn't all jump on board does not mean we are attacking anyone.

Get some help! Seriously!

But now you have to vote for this horrible candidate we have stuck with you with, or you're a bad person threads.

I don't give a fuck what George Takei or any other Hillary Clinton supporter has to say.

Chigaimasu. Kesshite!
kanojo no tame ni tohyo suru koto wa arimasen.

never. ever.

That 20 lashes are better than 50 lashes.

That getting boiled slowly is better than having the heat turned up so we might jump out of the pot.

Part of me thinks if we get a republican president at least people will go "what the hell. No no no we can't let this happen" but if we get Hillary carrying water for the 1%, then people will say,"well, I guess nothing can be done about income inequality and corporate greed."

to remember progressives saying the same thing about Reagan.

"If Reagan gets in, he'll do so much damage to the country that the left will win the next election by a landslide."

Funny thing, Reagan did even more damage than most expected, and the country swerved right regardless. In fact, electing Reagan just gave the right greater access to the Supreme Court, federal courts, executive orders, the Fairness Doctrine....

A Trump presidency would be an unmitigated disaster to everything progressives hold dear. There will be no upside to a Trump presidency. Count on it.

I always loved his character of Sulu in Star Trek and I think that he is a great spokesperson for a lot of causes. I was very happy when he tried to help out Tennessee with their 'Don't say gay' law. He was willing to lend his name so that instead of saying 'gay' people would just say, 'Takei'! It was a great way of showing how silly it all was that the republicans wanted to ban a word. Talk about thought police.

I'm also glad that he has done so much work trying to educate people about what happened to the Japanese during World War II in America with the internment camps. I know that he's written a play about it.

But even thought I love the man, it's not going to influence my vote. I will vote for the candidate that best reflects my views on how this country should be governed. And since I don't believe that we should have any negotiation about abortion rights, I don't believe in fracking, I am a dove, etc. etc. I will vote for the candidate that is closest to that. So all Hillary has to do is start to embrace a more progressive platform and she would be the candidate that I would vote for. As of right now that candidate is Bernie Sanders, so I think I'll stick with him for now.

And didn't Secretary Clilnton say something about Party Unity coming later? I'm sure that's when she'll tell us about how she's against the TPP and war and fracking and Citizens United and the Patriot act....you get the idea.

I love George! I hear him and I get him. No need for us to be mad at people for saying what the believe, truly believe.

Votingblue no matter who is no longer true. Sorry George!

". . .on her worst day, Hillary Clinton would be an infinitely infinitesimally better candidate and president than any Republican candidate on his best day.”

Good catch.

If Hillary is elected and governs like the war-mongering corporatist we all know she is, we'll be begged to go easy on our criticism for the sake of party unity as well as at least one other extenuating circumstance I can think of.

On the other hand, if a Republican is elected, Democrats may actually return to their roots and launch a full-throated defense of labor, people of color, the LGTBQ community, the social safety net, prudent foreign policy, and the lower and middle classes.

they thought that, "...four years of Trump may be worth it because after that we'd get eight years of Warren. And it would be better than four years of HRC followed by who knows how many years of Republicans after she loots the White House."

Those are not my words in the quotes, that's what the commenter said, I personally would never bring up the false story that they stole china from the White House when they left. While they did take things from the White House it was all allowed because it was overseen by a curator or something like that and they were only borrowing them. No really, it only sounds dishonest because of the fact that the Clinton's are involved.

Four years of Trump-led GOP insanity would destroy our economy and make daily life hell for women, people of color and LGTBQ people. The lives of U.S. troops would hang in the balance when "President Trump" runs around screaming, chest-beating and recklessly risking wars that WILL spin out of control just like Bush did with his own macho bullshit.

When Trump and a GOP-controlled Congress start packing the Supreme Court with Ted Cruz lookalikes who want to ban this or repeal that, don't expect Sanders, Warren or Michael Moore to start some big "revolution," which won't happen just like the uprising against Scott Walker didn't amount to jack squat. Then comes the REAL fun, when Repubs pass all sorts of voter ID laws, tax cuts, education cuts, etc., and it starts to sink in that Democrats missed their chance to break up the numerous gerrymandered districts for yet another DECADE.

If the keys are handed to Trump & Co., there'll be nothing left to work with. Nothing.

Even thought we do have EVM's here in NC they do have the ability to allow for write-in votes. I won't hold my nose to vote any longer. It's why we are where we are today, and I'm not happy with the results. Should the Democrats start to run candidates that reflect the values of one Bernie Sanders, then they will get my support, but I will not support someone whose politics I disagree with simply because they choose to call themselves a Democrat.

That's all Hillary Clinton has to offer us, George? That she's not Donald Trump. That's it. That's what I have to be excited about in November?

I think that people need to get real.

1) Barring an unforeseen event, Sanders will not be the party's nominee. That doesn't mean that he's not entitled to stay in the race until al votes have been cast, just like Hillary did in 2008.

2) Pay attention to Trump's ramblings and think of the damage this man would do to the nation as president.

3) Yes, Hillary is not as far Left as some of you would like, but she and Sanders have a hell of a lot more in common than not.

4) Grieve for your candidate's loss, like we Hillary supporters did in 2008, but move on and think of the welfare of the nation. Please don't be so selfish and shortsighted that you would rather allow the possibility of a Trump win than help Hillary clench the presidency. After all, we all would have to suffer the consequences of Republicans holding the WH and Congress.

He was an American citizen locked up with thousands of other American citizens because of his race. We all know who put him there. the idea that this man doesn't understand the concept of tyranny, or can't recognize it, as one poster here alluded to, could not be any more fucking ignorant.

But, we have an ally that we are rallying with, that we will vote for. So, no you can't step in and expect us to listen to you if we don't even have a leader.