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Not sure if this is suppose to be in GD P but since it mentions Clinton in the intro that's where I'll put it.Will you be punished for revealing classified info? Depends who you are
By Danielle Brian and Elizabeth Hempowicz - April 28, 2016, 09:01 am
Theres classified, and then theres classified.
So said President Obama in a recent interview when asked about former Secretary of State Hillary Clintons use of a private email server. Essentially, the president was saying it was no big deal, despite the findings that classified information was involved.
Yet, the Obama administration has brought more charges under the Espionage Act against officials for allegedly mishandling classified information than all other administrations combined since it was signed into law 99 years ago.
Consider Thomas Drake, a former top NSA official who faced prosecution in 2011 for the willful retention of national defense information after communicating unclassified information to The Baltimore Sun regarding illegal surveillance programs at the agency. Eventually, Drake pled guilty to a misdemeanor and the government dropped the espionage charges against him.
Or the case of former CIA agent Jeffrey Sterling, who was convicted for sharing national security documents with a New York Times reporter. Before doing so, Sterling had raised concerns with the Senate Intelligence Committee about a poorly executed CIA operation he was involved with. He is currently serving 42 months in federal prison....
Read more:
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/277579-will-you-be-punished-for-revealing-classified-info-depends-who#
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)2. The folks in the article all WILLINGLY gave classified information to others who were unauthorized to receive it. What information did Clinton WILLINGLY give to some unauthorized person? Please be specific.
3. What kind of idiot would suggest that Clinton violated the Espionage Act?
The article is nonsense.
think
(11,641 posts)The article is about the uneven use of prosecution of such activities by the Obama administration.
Drake didn't even share classified information and he was prosecuted. He was a whistle blower about illegal spying.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)The article is nonsense.
If you have actual evidence provide it.
think
(11,641 posts)He had access to classified information and was sharing it with Hillary while working for her foundation.
Hillary might not be directly at fault but she knew what he was doing and had him on her payroll.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Why -- if Hills is clearly so "innocent" -- is the FBI's investigation dragging
on and on as we near the Democratic Convention?
How is this NOT like the DNC playing Russian Roulette, by openly and
enthusiastically backing a candidate who is facing a possible criminal
indictment, by a Republican FBI Director, the details of which could
easily be leaked at any time?
The level of denial on this by Hillarians is of epic proportions,
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Not a big surprise since there is no evidence of any of those things happening.
The level of magical thinking demonstrated by Bernouts is hilarious.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)That promptly had her emails hosted on the cloud. That's 1 & 2 and we will find out about #3 soon enough.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I'm sure it will be crickets tho
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)You have not done that. No one has.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)But placing her server in the custody of an unsecured and unauthorized setting is "revealing".
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)violating FOIA, etc.....
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)and stealing thousands of documents and giving them to foreign nationals.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Different subsections, but the same statute. 18 USC Sec. 793.
Technically, she could be charged with 1100 counts of violating subsections (e) and (f), as that is the number of classified items found on the server. So, there really isn't that much difference in magnitude.
think
(11,641 posts)activity.
You're not discussing the actual people being compared in the article and seem to be referring to Snowden.
Thomas Drake, Jeffry Sterling, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and General David Petraeus are the people being compared in this article.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)think
(11,641 posts)between the different parties being compared...
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)The parallels are much closer than the cases cited in the article IMHO.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Those were at the very highest level within the Top Secret classification. They were so sensitive that most people in congress could not look at them and the Inspector General had to have his clearance raised so he could.
And they were sitting on her private server, un-secure and unencrypted for years. I have seen a few mentions of them, like that sat picture of military installations in a foreign country, and listing the real name of a mole in another country, black sites and secret programs that our government would deny the existence of. . . sitting right there on an UNPROTECTED server.
Oh, no big deal, "nothing burger".
Classic denial
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)whether she's getting foreign agents killed his sloppy handling of classified info or raking in millions in corporate blood money, she's doing Goldman Sachs', err, the Lord's work, and one must not be critical.
I guess we just have to accept that we are just the little people, and we must obey rules, whilst royalty is not subject to such petty inconveniences as rules and laws.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Theres classified, and then theres classified.
Snowden tweeted. . . There's classified and then there's classified. . . .I wish someone had told me!
Now, that's funny.