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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:03 PM Apr 2016

WP: Sanders is biggest spender of 2016 so far — generating millions for consultants

The small-dollar fundraising juggernaut that has kept Bernie Sanders’s insurgent White House bid afloat far longer than anticipated has generated another unexpected impact: a financial windfall for his team of Washington consultants.

By the end of March, the self-described democratic socialist senator from Vermont had spent nearly $166 million on his campaign — more than any other 2016 presidential contender, including rival Hillary Clinton. More than $91 million went to a small group of ad makers and media buyers who produced a swarm of commercials and placed them on television, radio and online, according to a Washington Post analysis of Federal Election Commission reports.

While the vast majority of that money was passed along to television stations and websites to pay for the advertising, millions in fees were kept by the companies, The Post calculated. While it is impossible to determine precisely how much the top consultants have earned, FEC filings indicate the top three media firms have reaped payments of seven figures.

Sanders’s money blitz, fueled by a $27 average donation that he repeatedly touts, has improbably made the anti-billionaire populist the biggest spender so far in the election cycle. The campaign’s wealth has been a surprising boon for vendors across the county who signed on to his long-shot bid.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-is-biggest-spender-of-2016-so-far--generating-millions-for-consultants/2016/04/28/600170ce-0cf2-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html

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WP: Sanders is biggest spender of 2016 so far — generating millions for consultants (Original Post) stopbush Apr 2016 OP
Damn. Ol' Bernie was feeding the insatiable accounts of a bunch of 1%ers. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
And the rich got richer workinclasszero Apr 2016 #21
LOL. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #44
Sanders Campaign Anthem alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #2
It does...I have no problem with that Armstead Apr 2016 #10
Good on ya! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #15
They produced the best political ads that I have ever seen, and more unique ads than I could count. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #51
$27 a pop CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #3
And still they can't find competent accountants ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #4
don't forget tax preparers. savalez Apr 2016 #34
Any mention of super pac spending? How about the Hillary Victory Fund self promotion spending? think Apr 2016 #5
That PAC is holding its money for the GE and the down ticket races. stopbush Apr 2016 #9
Funneling Big Money that will keep Congress beholden to Corporate Cash Armstead Apr 2016 #11
Slushy McSlush Slush here, there and everywhere. nt nc4bo Apr 2016 #31
The Victory Fund has already spent millions on self promotion with diminishing returns. think Apr 2016 #19
Money out of politics - check! robbedvoter Apr 2016 #40
Super Pac? Did you say Super Pac? Hey, that would be Sanders too, but lets pretend otherwise. seabeyond Apr 2016 #42
He has been a boon to the "Political Industrial Complex." Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #6
+1 NurseJackie Apr 2016 #38
And the Socialist PAYS his workers. Downwinder Apr 2016 #7
While the competition pays for TROLLS. Downwinder Apr 2016 #16
NY Times: Bernie Sanders to Cut Hundreds of Staff Members savalez Apr 2016 #36
Just not $15/hr - not all of them anyway. And ditches them like a hot potato when.... Corporate666 Apr 2016 #47
Typical of any establishment politician, Sanders has been throwing money at the race, stopbush Apr 2016 #8
What he's got to show for it is getting (around) 40 percebnt of the vote..... Armstead Apr 2016 #13
"Some fucking revolution, no?" workinclasszero Apr 2016 #24
You know the difference, so why pretend its the same thing. JCanete Apr 2016 #29
Yes, Sanders does have a SuperPAC. Google before lying. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #46
wait, are you referring to ... JCanete Apr 2016 #54
The Bern's campaign theme song... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #12
Love it!! Let's have some fun!! NurseJackie Apr 2016 #39
what do you KNOW? mikehiggins Apr 2016 #14
Actually, most good reporters have plenty of info that points a certain way, stopbush Apr 2016 #20
LOL!!! Absolutely ridiculous. KPN Apr 2016 #17
+1 and those same Hilliarians expect us all to unite. B Calm Apr 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author stopbush Apr 2016 #22
Taking notes, continue smearing. B Calm Apr 2016 #27
And Hillary and Bill should build a bunch of well built high rise apartments in HAITI. nt nc4bo Apr 2016 #30
OOooHhhh!!! Low blow! But expected. KPN Apr 2016 #56
Er, it's the WP, not Hillary supporters who wrote the article. stopbush Apr 2016 #23
Oh, so just nevermind the snarky posts immediately that followed the article or ... KPN Apr 2016 #26
Word up. frylock Apr 2016 #48
He's made Tad a 1 percenter for sure n/t texstad79 Apr 2016 #25
Tad took him to the cleaners kennetha Apr 2016 #37
DDS frylock Apr 2016 #49
So? nt nc4bo Apr 2016 #28
Sanders' job creation at a glance. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #32
I thought the dude wanted to get big money out of politics? kennetha Apr 2016 #33
And Mrs. Clinton just wants more and more and more nichomachus Apr 2016 #45
Somebody's nest got feathered in good fashion. nt oasis Apr 2016 #35
Bah hahaha. What a hypocrite. I know he out spent Clinton, but out of all of them? Even trump. seabeyond Apr 2016 #41
Well, he didn't have the corporatist media working for him for free nichomachus Apr 2016 #43
Hillarian obsession with Bernie's money is truly fascinating. frylock Apr 2016 #50
it's just fascination with the nouveau riche kennetha Apr 2016 #52
Yeah, that's what it is. frylock Apr 2016 #53
according to post 41, he's a hypocrit for even buying advertisement! some people are so devoted to dionysus Apr 2016 #55
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
10. It does...I have no problem with that
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

You get what you pay for, and me and millions of others wanted value for our money.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
51. They produced the best political ads that I have ever seen, and more unique ads than I could count.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:39 PM
Apr 2016

Money well spent.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. And still they can't find competent accountants ...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:09 PM
Apr 2016

... bookkeepers and lawyers that can get his FEC paperwork filled accurately and in a timely manner.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
9. That PAC is holding its money for the GE and the down ticket races.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

Unlike Sanders, Hillary IS raising significant money for the down-ticket races.

On the other hand, that Nurses PAC has been spending money supporting Sanders.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
19. The Victory Fund has already spent millions on self promotion with diminishing returns.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

So far the money isn't reaching the candidates. It's promoting the Victory Fund by spending millions with Hillary's logo attached to promote the fund and then taking in less in donations than was spent on the promotion.


When Bernie helps a candidate raise money it goes stright to the candidate no strings attached:

http://mynews4.com/news/local/lucy-flores-reports-windfall-after-help-from-bernie-sanders

Hillary on the other hand is utilizing her Victory Fund to her advantage and the candidates will have to wait to see what's left.


Democratic Party fundraising effort helps Clinton find new donors, too

By Matea Gold and Tom Hamburger February 20 2016

~Snip~

A record 32 state parties signed on to the fund, allowing the committee to solicit donations 130 times greater than what a supporter can give to Clinton’s campaign for the primary.

But the states have yet to see a financial windfall. Meanwhile, Clinton’s campaign has been a major beneficiary, getting an infusion of low-dollar contributions through the committee at a time when rival Bernie Sanders’s army of small donors is helping him close in on her financially. The fund is run by Clinton campaign staff, and its treasurer is Clinton’s chief operating officer.

~Snip~

The early, expansive use of a jumbo-size joint fundraising committee shows how the Clinton campaign has worked to maximize donations from wealthy supporters, seizing on rules loosened by the Supreme Court.

Many states were wary of joining the effort, worried that such a partnership would be perceived as an endorsement of Clinton and might interfere with their efforts to raise money from home state donors. But campaign officials — including Marlon Marshall, Clinton’s director of state campaigns — emphasized that this was a way to strengthen the party at its roots, a message Clinton echoed in the speech she delivered at the Minneapolis meeting to DNC members.

~Snip~

So far, the state parties have served only as a pass-through for their share of the funds. Campaign finance records show that nearly $2 million in donations to the fund initially routed last year to individual state party accounts was immediately transferred to the DNC, which is laboring to pay off millions of dollars in debt.

~Snip~

“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Lawrence Noble, a former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission (FEC) who is now with the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center. “Joint victory funds are not intended to be separate operating committees that just support a single candidate. But they appear to be turning the traditional notion of a joint committee into a Hillary fundraising committee.”...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-party-fundraising-effort-helps-clinton-find-new-donors-too/2016/02/19/b8535cea-d68f-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
42. Super Pac? Did you say Super Pac? Hey, that would be Sanders too, but lets pretend otherwise.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:23 PM
Apr 2016

Kinda like pretend about getting money out of politics, getting funds from corps, banks, wall street and fracking and oil. You know.... All the lies he has campaigned on. Oh Oh.... here is one.

"It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."

Corporate666

(587 posts)
47. Just not $15/hr - not all of them anyway. And ditches them like a hot potato when....
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

...they are no longer useful to him.

But spends a lot of time on the campaign trail spewing venomous hatred for companies who do the same things.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Bernie.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
8. Typical of any establishment politician, Sanders has been throwing money at the race,
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

in essence trying to buy the nomination.

He doesn't establish a ground game. He doesn't build any relationships with the D party or with voters. He holds mega-rallies that are a one-way street when it comes to communicating with voters (a speech is never a conversation), and he floods the airwaves with a volume of TV ads that would make a super pac blush.

And what does he have to show for it? 300+ fewer delegates than Hillary, 3-million fewer votes than Hillary and a war room full of well-paid political consultants living off the hard-to-come-by cash flowing from a bunch of college kids.

Some fucking revolution, no?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
13. What he's got to show for it is getting (around) 40 percebnt of the vote.....
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

after starting with nothing. And running against an entrenched, well-oiled, well financed Corporate Political Machine.

Nothing to sneeze at.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
29. You know the difference, so why pretend its the same thing.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders has no super pacs. The people are trying to buy our government back by donating what we can, since that's the system we live in. Without money there's no visibility, unless the rich institutions provide the lift, and Bernie isn't accepting support with strings attached. There is no other path, and don't pretend that what Sanders has been railing against is candidates using money donated for the express purpose of promoting their campaigns, because you know damn well what he's objecting to is who they are taking the money from and what that means about who's interests they have at heart.

You are pretending that Washington is different than it is. You can't just "have a conversation" with people who are bought, whether they are only a little bought or are wholly owned subsidiaries. They are working within the system and have a vested interest in maintaining that system. They aren't going to help expose it because either they like it or would be incriminated by it, or would lose the insider status and coalitions that they've worked so hard to establish for the sake of "incremental change."

Yes, if Sanders wants to continue to make changes to things at the edges, this is the way to do it, which is what he's been doing for decades as "the amendment king." He does and has worked with both parties, but the big stuff never changes for the better, and in fact, it's all gotten a whole lot worse.

Given that both parties have buried the issues most important to me, and never talk about money in politics, there is nothing better Bernie could be using the money we've given him for than to make his case, and to do it highly visibly. His is a new way for politicians to talk, and would you look at that, you can actually give an establishment candidate a run for her money while you acknowledge the real illnesses in our society.

You're right, a non-establishment candidate who the media has tried to make illegitimate at every turn has come within 3 million votes of a Clinton, on small $27 dollar contributions at that. But you just keep doing your part to make sure the revolution doesn't happen and that the status quo isn't disrupted, and then laugh at how Bernie isn't the one to usher it in, as if you and those like you ever wanted there to be one.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
14. what do you KNOW?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:22 PM
Apr 2016

"according to a Washington Post analysis"
"The Post calculated"
"impossible to determine precisely"
"FEC filings indicate"
"surprising boon for vendors"
"long-shot bid."

Sort of a collection of weasel words. Why do they care? Or do they, really?

Things like this, across the board, are a large part of the reason this is "a long-shot bid"

Let's try another slant...Sanders supporters put up and don't intend to shut up.

It's our money, dude, and if we send what we can afford to Sanders its our business.

Your concern is duly noted.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
20. Actually, most good reporters have plenty of info that points a certain way,
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

but when they come to write their story, they don't assert things as facts if they can't nail them down. A bit of info that has been corroborated by only one source may end up being presented through what you call weasel words, especially if that bit of info aligns with the basic narrative of the story being reported.

BTW - the "concern" isn't mine. I didn't write the article, so don't make it about me. I have no problem with you collectively paying Tad Devine $800,000 a month. I'd rather see that money going to him than being spent on a few more ads or GOTV efforts that might have changed some of those close Sanders defeats into wins for him.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
17. LOL!!! Absolutely ridiculous.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

Can you believe that? Hillarians criticizing Bernie for spending Berners' money to win an election ... oh, and enrich the already wealthy too by the way.

These people (Hillarians) just can't help themselves. Their authoritarian bent just won't let them be gracious in the face of any challenge whatsoever. To criticize Bernie for spending our money to get elected is the height of hypocrisy -- they all would rather let the wealthy fund elections and keep their hard earned money in their own pockets, much like they've done with Hillary, apparently. Oh, some of them have contributed to her campaign no doubt, but they have absolutely no problem with her SuperPacs and reliance on/buddying up with big money and Wall Street donors. Too much!!!! Lol!!!

I dunno, for a bunch of people who call themselves Democrats, they sure don't seem like it to me.

Response to B Calm (Reply #18)

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
23. Er, it's the WP, not Hillary supporters who wrote the article.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

I'd explain it to you, but if it isn't already apparent, no amount of 'splainin' will help.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
26. Oh, so just nevermind the snarky posts immediately that followed the article or ...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

the reams of them following the same thread you posted in the Hillary group.

Nice try, but you don't wiggle away that easy. You folks are exactly what you are, you can't escape that.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
37. Tad took him to the cleaners
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

while taking him down to defeat.

The large profits stem in part from the fact that no one in Sanders’s campaign imagined he would generate such enormous financial support. So unlike Clinton, he did not cap how much his consultants could earn in commissions from what was expected to be a bare-bones operation, according to campaign officials.

That has meant big payouts for the firm of senior strategist Tad Devine, which has produced the bulk of the campaign’s ads; Old Towne Media, a small media placement operation run by two of Devine’s longtime buyers; and Revolution Messaging, a digital firm led by veterans of President Obama’s 2008 campaign.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
33. I thought the dude wanted to get big money out of politics?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
Apr 2016

Seems like he got taken to the cleaners, actually:


The large profits stem in part from the fact that no one in Sanders’s campaign imagined he would generate such enormous financial support. So unlike Clinton, he did not cap how much his consultants could earn in commissions from what was expected to be a bare-bones operation, according to campaign officials.

That has meant big payouts for the firm of senior strategist Tad Devine, which has produced the bulk of the campaign’s ads; Old Towne Media, a small media placement operation run by two of Devine’s longtime buyers; and Revolution Messaging, a digital firm led by veterans of President Obama’s 2008 campaign.


Take away: Never let a socialist negotiate with a capitalist running dog!

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
45. And Mrs. Clinton just wants more and more and more
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:08 PM
Apr 2016

She never saw a $250,000 check she didn't like.

If she gets into office, they'll have to set up checkout lanes in the East Room. Everything will be for sale.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
41. Bah hahaha. What a hypocrite. I know he out spent Clinton, but out of all of them? Even trump.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

That says it all, no surprise, and consistent with Sanders. Do not do what you preach and lecture.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
43. Well, he didn't have the corporatist media working for him for free
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:05 PM
Apr 2016

Like Mrs. Clinton does. He has to pay for coverage when he can even get it. Mrs. Clinton have every corporate presstitute banging the drum for her.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
50. Hillarian obsession with Bernie's money is truly fascinating.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

Less than a year ago they were convinced that Bernie couldn't raise enough to remain competitive. Now they criticize him for spending it.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
52. it's just fascination with the nouveau riche
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:53 PM
Apr 2016

who don't know how to husband and grow their sudden wealth and spend it on lavish campaign consultants who take them for a ride. Case study in that in the Sanders campaign.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
55. according to post 41, he's a hypocrit for even buying advertisement! some people are so devoted to
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:50 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary they say the darnedest things...

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