2016 Postmortem

snooper2

(30,151 posts) Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:31 PM Apr 2016

So, Everyone claims that Hillary is to the left or running to the left of President Obama's policies

Just one story here- , you hear it from talking heads almost every night as well-
http://www.cbsnews.com/media/where-has-hillary-clinton-broken-with-obama/

So do people here not believe that is true, or are you just moving further far left with age? Given that virtually EVERY Sanders supporter that replied to this thread said they voted for Obama- over 140 replies-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511813508

People don't like Obama now and even though Hillary is essentially to the left of his policies still not good enough? Or is the troll percentage higher than I am guessing?

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So, Everyone claims that Hillary is to the left or running to the left of President Obama's policies (Original Post) snooper2 Apr 2016 OP

Hillary is running to the left of the right side of gun issues than Sanders votes. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #1

Thingis, they're virtually identical on that issue... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #8

Hey, I just don't want to vote for a candidate who is for war and fracking and the TPP and djean111 Apr 2016 #2

There is a third option ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #3

Anything that pisses off people here at DU deserves to be posted. LonePirate Apr 2016 #6

Hillary is running to the left of President Obama but is careful not to criticize him. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #4

"Everyone claims that Hillary is to the left of..." Short answer: everyone is an idiot. ieoeja Apr 2016 #5

No one so tied to Wall Street can run left, even to Obama's left. Orsino Apr 2016 #7

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

1. Hillary is running to the left of the right side of gun issues than Sanders votes.

Reply to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:38 PM

Apr 2016

Hillary and Obama are together on this issue, she says she will stay with Obama's EO on gun issues.

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)

8. Thingis, they're virtually identical on that issue...

Reply to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:58 PM

Apr 2016

...except for one point (and Bernie's correct on that one).

djean111

(14,255 posts)

2. Hey, I just don't want to vote for a candidate who is for war and fracking and the TPP and

Reply to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:39 PM

Apr 2016

increased H-1B visas and means-testing Social Security and cluster bombs and increased restrictions on abortions, and is against single payer. These are things Hillary is FOR. And she is quite up front about staying that way.

Has nothing to do with Obama. It has to do with the future. No amount of arranging and rearranging Hillary and Obama on some mythical political chessboard will change the fact that I will not vote for a candidate who is for the things that Hillary stands for.

Why is that so hard to understand? Do you think I am going to say oh, war? Not so bad, after all, because Hillary supposedly is to the left of Obama? That is ridiculous.

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)

3. There is a third option ...

Reply to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:40 PM

Apr 2016

But, posting it will piss folks off.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)

6. Anything that pisses off people here at DU deserves to be posted.

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:50 PM

Apr 2016

Granted, I don't want you banned for it but we should not shy away from controversial viewpoints. At least from my chair, a controversial subject can be discussed without violating TOS.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)

4. Hillary is running to the left of President Obama but is careful not to criticize him.

Reply to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:45 PM

Apr 2016

And she shouldn't. He's been a great president and is a rock star to most Democrats:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval_among_democrats-1046.html

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)

5. "Everyone claims that Hillary is to the left of..." Short answer: everyone is an idiot.

Reply to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:49 PM

Apr 2016

"Now, she is not so sure about TPP." Only an idiot would believe her given her lengthy record of supporting globalism.

"Do more to help undocumented immigrants." Pretending Congress will authorize the funds (they won't), I have no doubt she would do this. Unless she can trade it away for something closer to her heart ... like getting votes for the TPP.

"Repeal the Cadillac Tax." Since when is a regressive tax to the left of a progressive tax? Claiming this is to the left is somewhat idiotic.

"More war in Syria." Since when is more war to the left of less war? They just raised the bar for most idiotic claim in this thread. Possibly in this entire primary. Hey, Drumpf, you've got competition!

"More renewable energy." Congratulations. They are not 100% idiotic. Dumpf can feel safer now.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)

7. No one so tied to Wall Street can run left, even to Obama's left.

Reply to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:56 PM

Apr 2016

That would imply leadership, and Clinton is mostly a follower.

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