It's not easy to become a superdelegate by becoming a DNC member. People who do that are smart, hard-working, tough people. Attacks simply make them more committed and less likely to consider changing their support.

Those who are viciously attacking superdelegates are working against what they claim to support. Foolishness.

...trying to flip them by talking about national head-to-head polls will make you look naive.

I feel they are do not want to do things Democratically, and that makes them non-Democrats (duh).

Same as it ever was.

...if this was not the argument used since the start.

after the whole "Correct the Record" thing. But I love this line...

You don't know if Nancy Schumacher is a "corrupt privileged insider", and if she was is that consent for online and phone harassment?

We should publicly shame and harass people who disagree with our views?

Calling someone about something they are doing that is theft is free speech. I have called my representatives several times. They try to push you off on some message line for complaints, and then complain that people call them more. They have yet to have a forum to discuss with us. Most HRC people freak when they hear Bernie may switch Superdelegates, but are fine when they are bribed for Hillary. They are fine with porn being posted on Bernie sites until they are closed (and don't paste that stupid Blaze article because it is false)...but some people in states where we went over 70% for Bernie they are fine with some paid lackeys getting bonus votes worth 10,000-65,000 votes each stealing our state. The election is life, it is something that will affect us all for 4 years or more...you cry about getting some emails on your day off? You are a horrible person and have no right to be a super delegate. Talk with the people you are representing, don't hide behind inboxes and voicemail that are black-holes. If people are calling them at home it could be because they are hidden from complaints at work. But the bigger part is that many of these things could be like the false Bernie Bro things that Correct the Record is doing..unlike the real Bro4Hillary attacks on individual voters.

As for...

From the article:

"Some of the (phone and email) messages called me names. Some of them called Hillary names. And others said I was a stupid bitch and something bad will happen to me," said Schumacher, a Democratic committee member

Gus Bickford, the former executive director of the Massachusetts Democratic Party, was taken aback by the threats that flowed into his inbox and onto his Facebook page.

"Someone put up a list of the superdelegates and a person from Rhode Island posted a response that basically said, 'They should all be assassinated' and then said 'I'm only joking,'" recalled Bickford. "With the way people are talking, you never know who's going to take something like that seriously."

And I have been called a sexist and a racist places like here for months. I would rather some troll threaten me. As for the posts you listed I already side "IF" they are real, then it is wrong, but as they ARE spreading fake stories with correct the record and through out this election I am not sure if I buy it...remember Deloris claiming about English only. There are a ton of disgusting people in this election spreading lies.

But for threats, the guy that ended it saying only joking is not a threat. To be a credible threat there are a set of things that law enforcement looks for. None of these are actual ones that would flag anything. The first one about something bad would happen, IF it is real, then it is wrong and in court it could be considered damaging...but it would not be considered an actual threat for the police to send a person out (unless the person is rich or powerful, then they would waste resources on them).

But what would you do if Bernie had been spreading lies about Hillary supporters being anti-Semitic racists the whole election, if you were all called Hill Bros, and equated with everything you did not believe in. Then to add to that the media constantly ignored, lied, or told you to quit, while a massive contingent of Super-delegates said they were going to vote for Bernie about 7 months before they would actually vote, and every news outlet included them in every story. Stealing power from a movement is not a good idea. Luckily we are the people against war that are supporting Bernie. These people calling them have the right to (not threatening them though). As I said I called many times, they pretty much treat you like sh!t, tell you to call a number to leave a message, and say they are too busy to deal with you. I stopped calling last week because at this point I am making a list of who I am not going to vote for, they have stolen our vote, and they can't undo that. These people yelling at them may still vote for Hillary...so you may want to allow them to blow off steam...or else they will be like me, basically deciding to not vote in the general election for the first time ever.

The anger in your post is a perfect example that what this woman is describing is real.

Maybe add a few more F@ucks to your post next time.

Harass superdelegates. Do they think they can scare her into supporting Bernie? Kind of shocking.

Not before the beginning.

I got mine so fuck everybody else. Amiright?

Threats of physical violence of course are never ok, and I would even include certain language/hate speech as unacceptable- however- that does not mean that we don't have a right to strongly express our opinions about this. They have the outsized power of I believe 10,000 voters. The process has been biased from the start. They announced way early to tilt things further in her favor and increase her air of inevitability. They don't have a right to be free from criticism or the small amount of pressure we can actually bring to bear.

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to harass super delegates or anyone.

Is harassment. Truth is I have not chosen to contact any Superdelegates. But I still think contacting public figures to let them know your opinion is not harassment. And yes, if they've taken on this roll they are public figures.

I'm not justifying nastiness or threats, but this has been a Hill camp meme since the start- that Bernie supporters were "harassing" poor Hillary supporters. Most the time it appears to just be people disagreeing with them.

the convention.

Idiotic.

and attempt to win the game is to play by the 'rules' that say you need to start the game 40 points behind, then that's the game you have to play .. but it's not the game you have to praise for its 'fairness'.

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Is it because they have list that they got from hacking the Sanders offices in Arizona? Otherwise to claim someone is a supporter on internet is silly. It may shock you but I know someone who meet a 18 year old girl only that turned out to be some creepy old dude. So it does happen once in a while that people lie about who they are on the Internet.

It might be real, but it could also be someone pumping up the Berniebros myth. Of course, no one associated with the Clinton campaign would dream of misrepresenting themselves on the 'net...

and that's because, in every practical sense, it exists everywhere...even in the party that Bernie hopes to lead.

To paraphrase Upton Sinclair:

"It is difficult to get a 'journalist' to see signs of corruption everywhere, when their salary depends upon them not seeing it."

Her campaign literally has a fund devoted to trolling and spreading bullshit online. I mean, that's fine-- you can technically do that, of course, but one of the consequences is people will tend to file everything you say in the 'advertising' folder.

I'd have a lot more respect for Hillary supporters if they'd just admit the super delegate system is what it obviously is; one more piece of rigging set up by the party establishment to keep power in their own little circles. The party leadership has been rigging the system for several decades at this point. Super delegates (whose numbers have been ever-increasing) are one of the most obvious ways.

and I don't trust this article either. I think it's a bunch of b.s.

How many times are you going to post the same oh-so-full-of-concern thing?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107119490#post11