2016 Postmortem

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,620 posts) Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:30 PM Apr 2016

A Washington Post story on possible resolution between Clinton and Sanders camps...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/04/28/the-end-is-near-clinton-and-sanders-camps-quietly-signal-resolution/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

The signs are everywhere this morning: The Clinton and Sanders camps are now signaling how the Democratic primaries might wind down without too much noise, contentiousness, disruption, and anger. Could things still get very ugly? Yes. But at this point, that’s looking less likely than the alternative.

In an interview with me, Rep. Keith Ellison, a top supporter of Bernie Sanders who is also the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, suggested the Clinton camp had some work to do in order to appeal to Sanders’s supporters. But he also carefully noted that Sanders would not do anything to imperil the party unity that will be required to defeat Donald Trump.

“Young people have a set of priorities that make them want to support Bernie Sanders,” Ellison said. “If hypothetically she wins the nomination, in order to get people to support Bernie, she’s going to have to carry the banner that Bernie carried in an overt way. She’s going to have to make it clear to people who support Bernie that she gets where he’s coming from.”

But Ellison added: “Every Bernie supporter knows that this Supreme Court issue is looming. We’ll have party unity….everybody has a responsibility to make sure there will never be a President Trump. Bernie has been around a long time….he’s not going to hand this country over to Donald Trump.”

All of it at the link above.

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A Washington Post story on possible resolution between Clinton and Sanders camps... (Original Post) CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 OP

Getting where people are coming from and actually doing something for them are two very different onecaliberal Apr 2016 #1

Bernie fans have been awful at predicting things. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #14

Hillary's sycophants, at least some of them, have been just plain awful. Broward Apr 2016 #15

Really? I dont recall hundreds of articles about Hillary supporters harassing people and... JaneyVee Apr 2016 #16

Yes, really. Broward Apr 2016 #23

It's so simple. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #2

Oh, it's imaginable, all right. sofa king Apr 2016 #8

I don't trust a thing coming out of the WoPo beedle Apr 2016 #3

I feel sorry for Ruth Ginsberg Armstead Apr 2016 #4

Ruth aside Trenzalore Apr 2016 #12

And if Clinton is elected (or Sanders), I hope Obama has the sense ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #17

That's just wishful thinking. djean111 Apr 2016 #5

the end to GD-P cannot come soon enough DrDan Apr 2016 #10

She doesn't get where he is coming from, and why should anyone care what she says? Vattel Apr 2016 #6

Clinton can say any damn thing she wants demwing Apr 2016 #7

Would Canada want you? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #19

What is stopping you? onenote Apr 2016 #24

I won't be buying what they're selling PDittie Apr 2016 #9

+1 dana_b Apr 2016 #13

Dont worry, us women, blacks, latinos, and unions stand in solidarity. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #18

Obama won without independents or white males. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #11

He had the vote of at least one white male. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #21

Voting bloc. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #22

A lot of speculation, dressed up to sound like something significant. winter is coming Apr 2016 #20

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)

1. Getting where people are coming from and actually doing something for them are two very different

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:33 PM

Apr 2016

things, people are done with empty words, and sadly that is all the secretary has to offer. Her words are meaningless, she will do the opposite once elected.

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

14. Bernie fans have been awful at predicting things.

Reply to onecaliberal (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:58 PM

Apr 2016

Im sure your prediction will be no exception.

Broward

(1,976 posts)

15. Hillary's sycophants, at least some of them, have been just plain awful.

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:00 PM

Apr 2016

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

16. Really? I dont recall hundreds of articles about Hillary supporters harassing people and...

Reply to Broward (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:02 PM

Apr 2016

Threatening superdelegates.

Broward

(1,976 posts)

23. Yes, really.

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:06 PM

Apr 2016

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

2. It's so simple.

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:34 PM

Apr 2016

Join us in supporting the Democratic nominee.

The alternative is unimaginable.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)

8. Oh, it's imaginable, all right.

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:52 PM

Apr 2016

Memorable, even, and I can bring all the nightmares back with only one name: Ralph Nader.

beedle

(1,235 posts)

3. I don't trust a thing coming out of the WoPo

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:37 PM

Apr 2016

I'm betting they are taking Ellison out of context, and playing this so they can blame accuse Bernie of trying to make a deal (illegal) with Hillary.

If Hillary thinks stealing Bernie's platform planks will help her win over Bernie supporters, then steal the planks ... the need for an 'agreement' has never stopped her before.

Armstead

(47,803 posts)

4. I feel sorry for Ruth Ginsberg

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:38 PM

Apr 2016

"this Supreme Court issue is looming. "

Must be awful to have everyone constantly publicly presuming the worst about your near future.

(Just an observation)

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)

12. Ruth aside

Reply to Armstead (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:56 PM

Apr 2016

Scalia's replacement is still waiting.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)

17. And if Clinton is elected (or Sanders), I hope Obama has the sense ...

Reply to Trenzalore (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:02 PM

Apr 2016

... to pull his SC appointee, and leave it for the next prez.

djean111

(14,255 posts)

5. That's just wishful thinking.

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:41 PM

Apr 2016

There would be no sane reason to believe anything Hillary promises or swears to.

“Young people have a set of priorities that make them want to support Bernie Sanders,”

And Hillary would shit all over their priorities. She has her own priorities, and they are different. She has already indicated that Bernie's supporters can pretty much go fuck themselves. That is Hillary's true nature.

I don't think that it is widely understood that Bernie is a symbol, this is not a personality cult thing, and Bernie really cannot make anyone vote for Hillary's Third Way warmongering agenda.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)

10. the end to GD-P cannot come soon enough

Reply to djean111 (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:54 PM

Apr 2016

Vattel

(9,289 posts)

6. She doesn't get where he is coming from, and why should anyone care what she says?

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:43 PM

Apr 2016

Clinton herself, her campaign, her surrogates, and her supporters have, by relying so heavily on distorting Sanders' record, made it difficult for any uniting to happen.

demwing

(16,916 posts)

7. Clinton can say any damn thing she wants

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:46 PM

Apr 2016

and in fact, does so to steal votes without much blowback.

Why the hell would anyone trust her, if they don't trust her already?

Fuck the Clintons, I think I'd rather give up everything and move to Canada - better Healthcare, better cops, stronger middle class - and soon they'll have a better climate.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)

19. Would Canada want you?

Reply to demwing (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:03 PM

Apr 2016

What are the requirements for moving to Canada? Just pick up and go?

onenote

(42,703 posts)

24. What is stopping you?

Reply to demwing (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:09 PM

Apr 2016

Seems like the rational move for you to make.

PDittie

(8,322 posts)

9. I won't be buying what they're selling

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:54 PM

Apr 2016

I live in a non-swing state. There are about forty of them this go-round.

I get to vote my principles with a clean conscience, without any of that nasty "Trump thanks you", SCOTUS bullshit sticking to my shoes.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)

13. +1

Reply to PDittie (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:57 PM

Apr 2016

and even if I lived in a swing state I wouldn't let others make my decision for me.

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

18. Dont worry, us women, blacks, latinos, and unions stand in solidarity.

Reply to PDittie (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:03 PM

Apr 2016

Thanks for nothing.

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

11. Obama won without independents or white males.

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:55 PM

Apr 2016

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)

21. He had the vote of at least one white male.

Reply to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:04 PM

Apr 2016

In the General Election.

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)

22. Voting bloc.

Reply to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:05 PM

Apr 2016

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)

20. A lot of speculation, dressed up to sound like something significant.

Reply to CaliforniaPeggy (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 06:04 PM

Apr 2016

In fact, nothing from the Sanders side that sounds different from what we've already heard the past few days. What's new is Brown offering to serve as a go-between and Feinstein calling for unity. Do either of them really need to stick their oars in?

This comes across as another thinly-veiled "Surrender, Bernie" ploy. Doesn't sound like Camp Weathervane is too comfortable with its position.

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