2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWonder What It's Costing Taxpayers For Investigation Into Hillary's Irresponsible Server Setup?
Seems like other people are always paying ( figuratively and literally) for her 'poor judgement'...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)think
(11,641 posts)us?
How in any way did Sanders supporters get the IG to have the FBI start this investigation?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)That's what the GOP does. They can't legislate so they investigate. Hillary and Colin Powell have said that the State Dept. email system for Classified Info is antiquated and has been in need for an update for a long time. That doesn't mean that people don't have a need to communicate information. That means they have to find a way around the inefficiencies presumably within the policies. People who have worked with the equipment within the system know what she's talking about. Hopefully something good will come of this like updating the equipment.
Also the policy did change after she was already the Sec of State about all State Dept email going through the .gov server to that documents can be preserved. Government servers do go down from time to time, and in the past I have had to use my private email account to relay information to supervisors or subordinates, or to send email to myself when working from home, so I would have a record of it when the system came back up, because our server was down.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Bless your heart.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)who read her correspondence with Sidney Blumenthal. She committed perjury while under oath in a hearing saying she turned in all her emails (but at least 15 were deleted in her "personal stuff" that other people did turn in). She signed documentation that she had returned all government stuff with government records in her basement. She instructed a staff member in the steps necessary to copy and paste classified data without keeping the "confidential" headers.
Obviously, they are investigating her dog walker. Or maybe her pizza delivery guy.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)How much money will the GOP waste on this scandal, compared to Benghazi?
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)She uses the wrong piece of furniture, a fuck up for sure but that is what this comes down to, and the GOP have convinced these people to string her up.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)the lack of integrity on the part of the GOP is sad but not surprising.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Furthermore:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rice-aides-powell-also-got-classified-info-personal-emails-n511181
Personal email can be accessed anywhere. If Powell and/or Rice accessed their email anywhere but at a secure computer, would any secret mail not be on that computer account and able to be accessed?
frylock
(34,825 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I've got proof that they are not. I personally have received emails from friends' hacked accounts asking for money because they were (bogus) stranded overseas. There has NEVER been any indication that her server, manned security experts, has ever been hacked.
I can't belive you are promoting the idea that servers operated by an unknown entity, and employing 1000s of peopl e who have access and no security clearance, is safer than her server.
Chezboo
(230 posts)The issue at hand is her private server; having that is a crime just for starters. Rice and Powell didn't have a private server.
Chezboo
(230 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)shows me that you are either OK with corporate ownership of the Democratic Party or you're so enamored of Hillary that she can simply do no wrong.
The GOP has nothing to do with it, I'm not going to just silently watch the potential party standard bearer operate government as a personal ATM machine. Greed isn't a progressive ideal. We're supposedly a progressive party. The fact that you HRC peeps don't see the disconnect makes me wonder why.
And if you think the attacks from the Left are nasty, wait until Tru p and his legions of mouth-breathers start in on her. I'm at least dealing in facts, they have no inclination. I had a post hidden just for showing an actual picture of Hillary in an orange pantsuit... A picture readily available online. If that hurts the tender feewings of the HRC fanboys/fangirls, I imagine they'll swallow their own fucking tongues when Trump unleashes his white trash army...
Good luck with that. You people are soft... Better toughen the fuck up, chop-chop...
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)This is an FBI investigation...with the Justice Department under a Democratic administration.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)the Hilbots are a paranoid bunch...
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It's just so damn stupid in the first place, I don't for a moment think someone as experienced in DC as Hillary didn't anticipate that the arrangement would become public knowledge. Poisoning the well? Red herring? Pure razzle dazzle? Who the hell knows, it's turtles all the way down with this one.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)So what's the payoff?
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)And she came close to getting away with it, too. She avoided all FOIA requests her entire tenure plus two years, and the only reason the FBI has her "deleted" emails is because they were backed up on the cloud/the company "forgot" to bill her (because they thought she was setting them up).
It was very, very close.
msongs
(67,406 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I guess that's the next logical step.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)its employees, so this is not a serious issue,
but secondly: The FBI is not a RW organization.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Probably a lot less expensive than Hillary's vote to invade iraq.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)... and irresponsible enough to set up a private server in her home. PERIOD. Maybe you should do as Hillary has suggested, and 'research' her... those who do usually come away with a different outlook than the one she'd hoped for, though.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/
"Like Clinton, Powell used a personal email address. However, theres a big difference: Clinton hosted her email on a private server located in her home. Powell did not."
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Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)Of course, they are desperate...Democrats should not help them.