And the paid speeches behind closed doors.

words. I hear there is also a book detailing some of her "pay to play" antics and that he is going to bring that one up as well. Why do we send the most corrupt and vulnerable candidate to become president again? oh wait...it was her turn...right!

was not correct.

Now, Clinton's spouse is not usually considered an example of one of the most honest people in the world - and that is based on the real meaning of lying.

Since when?

What I meant is that there is at least as much reason to think the number was defined wrong or she just remembered the wrong number. Ask yourself if the real number sends a different message - it doesn't to me. Both convey just "big number".

Should we parse every Clinton (take your choice which) statement to look for factual errors -- and call them lies?

I think Hillary supporters mocking Jane's appearance is a bigger deal than a 40 million dollar error. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE, WILL YOU? Your post is pathetic!

What other 'errors' did she make?

is making shit up.

$76.00 million reported here --

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/

$76.00 million reported here --

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campaign-money-race.html?_r=0

Now that 31 million dollar figure you are throwing around is how much SuperPacs have SPENT for Clinton.

All of the numbers are right here.

So where are those transcripts, Hillary.

The 76 million figure is how much has been raised. The spent total is 31.5

SuperPAC's have raised 1/3 of the total contributions for the Clinton campaign. That is a fact.

The total spent is more than any other candidate including Sanders except for Bush. That is a fact.

It is obvious what the point was, and it is smear to call this a surrogate lying.

It is a convenient deflection from the sickness that is this much cash coming from supposedly bad CU SuperPACs!

The links are in the original thread. Listen to her interview.

we do everything for you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1867826

My original fucking post with links!

And actually I erred in her favor. With coordinated SuperPAC spending she has actually out-spent every candidate including Bush.

Why would the NY Times as they are the ones that compiled this?

But of course, as a paid operative, you have to find a way to save face for your candidate and deflect from the actual truth lest the peasants revolt from the queen.

And they did not favor Hillary, the only other candidate in the DNC was Sanders.

Sanders did not coordinate with American Crossroads like Brock does with CTR.

Behalf.

Because there isn't any out there.

Try again. I love watching y'all squirm.

Just another toss it out, someone may believe it.

And here is proof.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

You were fucking saying?

and provided proof but now run away because of delicate sensibilities?

and "run away because of delicate sensibilities?" Now you accuse someone of the exact things you do, how hypocritical.

from another site because of my bad behavior towards other users and mods.

and we will see a two-way street, including you.

You have no power over me and I'm done with that other site. Your and their censorship of "free speech" will be known to this segment of the social media.

I wear that suspension with a badge of honor so bring the links.

BTW your leader over there has been banned from here, don't forget to mention that in every thread now.

and keep revealing yourself as you are.

I have no problems speaking for myself.

It's that shadowy, behind the scenes, sneaky nature that is slowly being revealed about you and you can't stop it now that it's out of the bag.

They prefer their ignorance and hang on to it like their survival depends on it. And it does.

Kind of ironic for a guy who wants the money out of politics.

Sanders wants Wall Street to stop quid pro quo relationships with politicians and wants an end to the revolving door of lobbyists and SuperPAC money in DC.

He spent 11 million more being the underdog. At least none of his money is from SuperPAC unlike her's which totals almost 1/3 of her raised money.

Actually let's add this. Clinton did actually spend more once you count the 31.5 million her coordinated SuperPAC's spent on her campaign. She is outspending Sanders by over 20 million.

How many times has Lockheed Martin been hailed out on the F-35 program?

pulling shit like this out of thin air in a thread on another topic?

Do you not wonder why we think so many of y'll are paid operatives?

This is a classic red herring and deflection from the actual topic at hand.

So no one is buying your bullshit promulgated here.

speeches Sanders gave at Boeing quid pro quo?

Yeah, didn't think so!

Able to show what was said to influence Sanders.

NRA lobbyists raising money for her?

You imagine proof where none exists. There is proof of Clinton's two-faced quid pro quo dealings.

Try again!

in the debate after railing about it for a year

We can't stop the money...I don't want to see our candidate broke ...standing on principle and losing. He still spent money; a great deal of it because you need money.

that you don't need SuperPAC's or corporate CU money in order to run a successful campaign.

He is running a campaign of the people, she is running a campaign of the oligarchs and Wall Street.

There was more money thrown against Sherrod Brown last time.

as Clinton has never run in a GE either.

Sanders has shown that even when SuperPAC's threw 100's of millions at Jeb Bush, he failed quickly. Even when Clinton gets tens of millions more than Sanders, she is still in a race for her career.

Having seen Sherrod Brown's numbers go down after the Koch money hit...it is relevant. The only thing that saved Brown was Josh Mandel was a terrible candidate. You guys don't live in the real world. Have you ever volunteered for a campaign?

starting with Jesse Jackson when you were likely a child or not even born, so spare me your bullshit.

But you are right in one sense, the Koch's definitely will attack Sanders when he is the GE candidate. If, god forbid, Clinton gets the nomination, then they will simply give her money because they funded the DLC and recently said she was a great moderate Republican.

So tell me again who lives in the real fucking world?

Remember: SHE CALLED THEM OUT!

Jonathan Capehart being a prime example.

I think she's got a tax problem. Well, both of 'em.

She is trying to keep those tax returns hidden until they've totally lost the bubble, and then it won't matter.

She thinks.


Sanders will have to retire from public life, because those returns will remain a narrative any time he pokes his head up.

He shouldn't send his wife out to fight his battles.

She will keep those under lock and key and I cannot wait to hear about all of those contracts for military arms, jets, uranium from the countries do stings tens of million or more to The Clinton Foundation..... So many thing so much more interesting than a tax return.....

BTW. Bill shouldn't be sent out since he doesn't know how to keep the laws on staying 150 ft. away from a voting station and to not block polling station entrances either like he did in MA in several polling stations. Then he went off on Black Lives Matters as well as making the crack about killing every 3rd person on Wall Street....He needs to be under lock and key with those comments and that kind of activity.

Time to get rich people to pay their fair share, seems like we have heard this before.

dollars going thru the Clinton Foundation will certainly come into question. The FACT that as Secretary of State The Clinton Foundation received hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign countries that ended up securing arms contracts, uranium deals, Boeing contracts.......these are smoking guns. This is against the law. This is conflict of interest.

We aren't even talking about e-mails and The private server in the Clinton's basement. All of the lies about the e-mails and the e-mails that were erased but shouldn't have been. The e-mails that were all turned over for the investigation, so say Hillary Clinton but then more so happen to be found. Hillary Clinton is running for President of the United States while being investigated by the FBI. Unprecedented.

We won't get into the possible President of the United States giving speeches to Goldman Sachs and like type corporations for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then she claims that she is not beholding to Wall Street or the Banks but won't release the transcripts of any of those speeches?

While she was a Senator, tell me what she accomplished. What did she actually do while she was a Senator? Bernie Sanders while a Senator and Congressman has a very very long list of accomplishments.

While Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State tell me what were her accomplishments other than deposing the head of state of Libya, allowing Hondouras 's coup to go unsupported and the leader to be overthrown with no support. To not help Haiti when they were fighting for a pay raise from $.41/HR to $.51/HR ended up with $.31/HR All leading to the present violence in Libya, Honduras and Haiti...... Other than that what has Hillary Clinton accomplished?

worried about the poorest senator in the senate. I can see where the outrage is here, I mean we do want to see his cayman holdings . Don't get me wrong he should show them, but the faux outrage about it taking this long..come on. What do you expect? I expect a hell of a lot more if we could see the Clinton Foundation books, but I guess we won't see those anytime soon.

Hillary supporters have confused a simple mistake with a lie. That's why they don't care about sniper fire.

Until she does, however, excuse me for having my doubts.

it took 30,000 of those $27 donations to pay the amount that Tad Devine billed the Sanders campaign for consultation services in March.

I wonder haw many people got suckered out of $27 to pay for Sanders's private jet for his pretend meeting with the Pope.

white noise barriers does it cost to pay for David Brock's expertise. Why don't you ask him?

disparaging the rich-nice work if you can get it.

for you friend or not?

I didn't think so.

Clinton supporters commentary on this OP, as well as the OP itself, is the most vile, over-the-top trash I have ever seen.

You people need to get ahold of yourselves. Please don't give me the "they did it first" crap. That is a child's excuse.

For people that complain endlessly about how victimized they are on this site, you sure don't have any issues attacking people you don't even know as if they personally and physically attacked you. You people act is if the Sanders have done you some great wrong. I should not be surprised, PBO got just as bad, if not worse from PUMAs, from you lot when he dared challenge your chosen candidate. Well, I don't think he ever had neo-nazi hate sites used by Democrats against him but I could be wrong.

This thread is disgusting. You people are absurd.

the lies, smears, and rat-fuckery with facts and truth tend to bring out the vilest zombie justifications in many of the Clinton supporters here.

It is disgusting.

It's become strange here the last couple of days. Once they realized Sanders wasn't getting out they just went ape shit. For people supposedly so confident their candidate will win, they sure have cranked up the rhetoric.

supporting Hillary - she NEVER lies. Nevah

Priorities for America has raised almost 70 million, and Hillary for American has raised over 180 million. Over 34 million has come from small doners and over 133 million has come from large doners.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00000019

Now I know a lot of her money is being spent on ads against Republicans, but that is still being spent for her to win.

I don't know where your 31 million number is coming from, but then I don't know where Jane's number came from either.

The money behind Clinton is just undeterminable. She's got fingers in so many financial pies . . . check out sunlight foundation and see if you can figure it out.

You all want it to be black and white - simple thinking. Why can't you get over it and just talk about what their mission is for our country?

Oh, but HRC just "misspoke". Got it.

HRC has a different dictionary.