We have a responsibility as Americans to use our vote to express our political choice and raise our political voice. The fascist days of going along to get along are over. What this OP advocates is fucking stupid, because it is obvious that she is stealing this primary when the majority want Sanders.

isn't she.

To collude with her to steal the election. Clever gal! That's what I like about her.

Should be ashamed of yourself. Plus, yyguys should read the comments section.......

Not even the GOPers.

Imagine what she will be able to do to Trump!!! (Bernie supporters want to have it both ways--the insinuation that she is evil and in collusion with some nefarious entity that MUST be helping her could easily put the silly idea that Bernie does better than her against Trump to bed. If she can rip off the primary from Bernie, she can rip off the election from Trump...ha-ha!)

I'm not referring to the drink.

To bad she said fuck you to independent voters

When and where did she say fuck you ti independent voters? As far as I've seen she's been relatively conciliatory.

They have not lifted one finger to expand the party like Bernie. That in itself is a big fuck you. Just look at all of tbe posts on DU celebrating the closed primaries and her supporters take great pride at insulting Bernie supporters and indies. Way to convince them, or as I say., a big fuck you.

You're conflating posters on social media with Clinton herself, just as many Clinton supporters conflate Bernie with the nasty assed posters on the internet.

Closed primaries were closed before Bernie announced. It's a bit much to blame Clinton for something she had no hand in.

Her staff, her surrogates that insulted a fellow democratic candidate and herself for her lack of trying to reach out to independents and allow their votes to be counted. Hell she and DWS had the debates hidden on odd days and times and she only agreed to more when she started losing states.

That Clinton is willing to change in the face of voter demands.

The insults I see as tit for tat, with the exception that Sanders fell for a media troll and called Clinton unqualified.

On the above posts.

and voting for him did not require changing your party in a closed primary,

There would have been no contest.

I don't blame Hillary for that, but she got lucky. She would NOT have the vote or delegate lead she has today if he had always been a dem. There are more independents in this country than dems or repubs.

... by getting more votes?

How nefarious!!

Whether it's Hillary, or Debbie, or the DNC or the state parties or whatever, a lot of crap has gone down in the primaries and caucuses that have been held so far--and they violate my diner rule. http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=37667

Sarcasm and denial on the part of Hillary supporters doesn't make anyone forget that. Maybe you convince each other, but I'm not even sure of that.

your time and mine.

The days of Berners and alleged Dems bullying other posters in this forum are over, much like Bernie's campaign and Revolution.

Now you have a nice day, ya hear!

what it is. If you consider "Please don't post a bs reply" bullying at DU, I'm the one who should be rolling on the floor laughing.

primary.

I would not have a problem with it if both candidates got to explain their ideas to the public on an equal footing, and the majority of Americans made an informed decision to vote for Hillary. I would be disappointed, but I would feel like democracy did what it was designed to do.

But this cluster-fuck of cheating and deck-stacking by the DNC, the media, DWS, and election officials does not even come close to democratic. We have a goddamned banana republic election system.

... if he didn't like the rules?

He could've just run as an Independent.

in the back.

... and then his campaign took off and he refused to lift a finger to help the party.

He seems a little stabby himself.

infrastructure they used it as a way to undermine him. Expecting any support, or even neutral treatment from them, only made him vulnerable to sabotage. They are openly hostile toward him he should have treated them as such.

will continue to happen in more states as well.

Clearly that line of thinking is common. I wonder if in the end if he'll actually get any of the benefits he'd hoped for. So far, I don't see it.

... and, there's no doubt he has a message that resonates.

But if he hadn't registered as a Democrat and instead ran as an Independent, he'd be battling it out with Jill Stein and Gary Johnson right now.

Y0u spoke for me, Thank You

by Bernie's camp. Every election in the primaries a new conspiracy theory was fabricated, from blue t shirts to rigging coin tosses.
Even in NY it was the voters own fault they didn't know the laws and didn't register correctly.

The idea that Bernard ran a clean campaign is laughable in and of itself, but add in the copy and paste barrage of lies posted by many of his supporters and it became filthy to its core.

When did Bernie's camp acquire the Des Moines Register, though?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/

"Order what's on the freakin' menu, don't write in choices you wish were available."

Remember that in November.

1) Vote for Hillary

2) Vote for the Republican nominee who will most likely be Trump

3) Throw away your vote

4) Refuse to vote

There's only one correct option.

Choose wisely.

1) Bernie Sanders

Slide the rest of the options down one.

Then she would fit in #3

She was conducting high security government business on that private server in her home. A server that was outside the government firewall. She violated the conditions security clearance form she signed.

Indictment Fairy, Unicorns and Ponies, Bernie Bros, one-liners that come from deep-seated emotion directily out of the mouth, skipping the brain, ad nauseum.

A good defense is not pulling crap phrases out of some southern bodily location. It's just, well, still reflecting its origination.

... yeah, I see where you're coming from, bro.

That's called checking the record. Using the personal name, I don't like that. But I wasn't responding to name-calling. That's a different subject.

It's these corny phrases and one-liners that get used in lieu of actual thought or phrasing your candidate's views. This part is hard, I do understand that, because it depends on who is asking/retelling, and on what day, in which year, and in front of whom. And who wants to look silly and so yesterday.

It is how i interpret things that matter. Your opinion could not matter less in my decision making.

Leave the Presidential slate blank and vote downticket progressives.

I was referring to people who think they can write in anyone they want and it'll be a counted vote.

Most states have election laws that prevent SpongeBob from becoming their governor. I actually read a post here where a Bernie supporter said he was going to write in his name and if more than 50% do the same, he'll be president. The fact is, those ballots will go straight to the garbage can.

In Ohio a candidate has to register himself in advance with an intent to be a write in candidate in order to be counted. All states have similar conditions for obvious reasons.

There is a concerted effort to organize this, much to the Hilly fanclub's chagrin.

We are spreading the word that if you live in such a state, then you vote for Jill Stein. However, if you live in a state where pre-registration isn't required, then you vote for Bernie.

It's not a hard effort, but it's being done in order to signal to the Democratic Party that it's as fucked up as the Republican Party.

It's been said that a good number of millennial voters figure they're well enough off to survive four years of a Republican administration in order to set up a run by Elizabeth Warren in 2020.

That ignores the tragedies that will be incurred by those not as well situated financially. Union members, the destitute, immigrants, and the LGBT community don't believe for a second that Republicans and Democrats have common plans for their future.

If your short term goal is to merely deny Hillary Clinton the election to send a "message", then I'm not with you. That's not a revolution, it's a tantrum. I could go on and on stating the major differences between modern Republicans and Democrats, but you've snorted too much Bernie Dust to see beyond breaking up a few banks as key to national prosperity.

... why did he register?

4. Stealing the primary ...

... by getting more votes?

How nefarious!

I replied

2. You do know that posts like your Reply 4 that don't fool anyone, right?

Whether it's Hillary, or Debbie, or the DNC or the state parties or whatever, a lot of crap has gone down in the primaries and caucuses that have been held so far--and they violate my diner rule. http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=37667

Sarcasm and denial on the part of Hillary supporters doesn't make anyone forget that. Maybe you convince each other, but I'm not even sure of that.

To which you have now responded

126. If Bernie didn't like the rules of the Democratic primary system ...

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... why did he register?

Please tell me you understand that your reply 126 makes no sense if one actually tries to follow the conversaton.

You may also want to check out this post, which I just happen to see in latest threads. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027790864

... because "a lot of crap has gone down".

And, you think you've made a solid argument.

That's adorable!

Dang it all! I always forget to request that posters not lie about what I posted! I should have learned by now.

(Psst. FYI: Any post that starts with "So" and then totally restates, but mischaracterizes, a prior post of mine that I just quoted to you verbatim in Reply 135 a minute ago is a yuuuge tell.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027790864

... did I inadvertently disregard your link showing nine of Hillary's super delegates calling for an investigation into voting irregularities?

Sorry.

of an apology or at least silence.

(Psst. mentioning that the Party's super delegates who have endorsed Hillary are descrying voting practices that disadvantaged Bernie doesn't say what you seem to assume it does. Doesn't help your case a bit. Sorry you missed that.)

I thought your lying about my post was bad, but trying to double down with more nonsense really says more about who you are than I ever would. Thanks!

I am an optimist and hope you will do better in the future. Get back to me if you think you've improved.

... that's what quotation marks are for.

Sorry, I omitted mentioning your link to a thread regarding nine of Hillary's super delegates calling for an investigation into voting irregularities, but I honestly didn't even look at it until like the third time you posted it.

And, frankly that makes all of this even funnier.

Thanks for the lulz.

I don't care if you mention the link or ignore it. I don't even care that you've mischaracterized it.

However I am disappointed that you ignored my request to get back to me if you improved. (Psst. Doubling down on bs and repeating your nonsensemis not an improvement.)

I think I will have to wish you a great day at this point because, so far, not a single post that you have made to me has been honest, and now you've devolved into repetititon to boot.

Almost 50 posts a day, 24/7. It's great work if you can stomach it.

Mussolini once said, "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power."

Enjoy your paycheck.

... are you disappointed that Bernie only pays his trolls $10.10 per hour?

What happened to that $15 minimum wage??

You must be so proud of your career. I'm sure you speak of how fulfilling it is to your friends and family.

... Bernie supporters sure like that alert button.

Apparently whatever they tell you to say.

Good to see you value that free speech.

I don't usually pay much attention to post count, even on the big computer, but that does seem sooooo transparent.

It amazes me how many so called Progressives come down on the side of war and environmental devastation just for the sake of having a female president.

You guys are something else.

I take it you don't live in places where the groundwater is chemicalized to provide more fossil fuels. They are called sink holes. Like Climate Change, they exist. So I'm not surprised that The Bubble doesn't understand it.

No true Democrat can support that. So, there's that.

This stuff isn't hard to understand. Fracking is dangerous and toxic. Hillary was asked if she would ban fracking. She said no, and rather provided a convoluted answer to the question.

She's not a progressive if she simply can't answer 'no'.

You are free to vote as you see fit, but I hope your choice is not just for spite.

Uhhhh no

... you mean like looking out for the welfare of your fellow citizens?

big banks and corporations who screw them over?

for the welfare of your fellow citizens?

much like corruption, lack of judgment, triangulation and flip flopping for fun and profit.

my vote can not be bought, my vote cannot be coerced it can only be earned. My vote belongs only to me. To do with as I see fit.

... this is a discussion about your duty as a patriotic American.

... but, I wouldn't recommend it.

ages ago. Try and get a better shtick please, I'm sure if you apply yourself you can do it. I have no duty to vote, only the right to vote. As I fucking chose.

http://www.al-islam.org/principles-marriage-family-ethics-ayatullah-ibrahim-amini/part-1-duties-women

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/wife.html

This Duty meme is their new shaming attempt. It won't work on real women who know all too well how screwed we are when we do our "DUTY".

More proof ......

and that is not her or Trump

Silly me, I thought it was a decree.

As for duty, I served (honorably) in the US Navy for 22 years, pay taxes, and am available to serve on a jury if called. Voting, on the other hand, is a right, and no one has the authority to tell me it's my "duty" to vote for any candidate.

Posts like this are NOT helpful. They only serve to antagonize and divide. Although I'd prefer Bernie, I am still planning on voting for the Dem candidate; however, a few more posts like this one may cause me to reevaluate my position.

good Germans now and vote our patriotic duty according to which fucking authoritarian?

If you actually believed this dribble, you wouldn't be a fucking Clinton supporter. Ask us vets sent to war by neocons like Hillary and then get in my face again with your patriotic American spiel!

... of catch phrases.

It's almost as if you really have nothing substantive to say.

You bluster in here yammering on about patriotic duty to vote for Hillary but we are using catch phrases?

You further yammer on like this but we are the ones with nothing substantive to say?

Fuck me this is comedy gold.

You ever serve kid? Or are you still in your pajamas sipping chai from Starbucks, posting on your ipad about how patriotic you are for voting for Clinton?

much closer to mine, and who is actually the nominee of a political party?

... no, wait.

They are anti democratic.

Bernie has earned my vote and I will vote for him in the upcoming California primary. If Hillary becomes the nominee, she will then have to convince me that she's worthy of my vote. That's how it works. It isn't my "duty" to vote for her any more than it's my "duty" to vote for anybody else. Votes shouldn't be "won" by arm twisting or coersion. And, please don't throw the words "patriotic American" at me. I was born in this country but if by "patriotic" you mean "my country right or wrong," you'd be barking up the wrong tree.

for the person who best represents my biggest concerns with my country and my life.
NO ONE can tell me how to vote.
You can't bully people into voting for you. You can't trick them, you can't intimidate them.
This needs to be a lesson learned before the GE; this is NOT the way to win votes, for ANYONE.....

Anyone who dictates to me what my duty is beyond what I just stated can go to hell.