2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTypes of primary race political arguments that fail to move most people...
1. Name-calling that accuses candidates of being from the opposite party.
2. Threatening superdelegates if they don't go your way.
3. Failing to understand the limitations of an office.
4. Threatening not to vote if your candidate doesn't get a nomination.
5. Threatening to leave a political party if you don't get your way.
6. Threatening to vote for some can't-win third party candidate.
7. Claiming that the supporters of the opposing candidate are traitors, racists, or other loaded words.
8. Shouting down supporters of your opponent
Those are some of the ones I can think of. You can add others.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)will never sway me.
I feel it is different from 7 since is accuses the entire party of being collectively stupid. I dislike arguments that tars an entire group of millions of people with the same brush.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)would be winning; but for, "The Conspiracy".
Answering that your candidate will, in fact, be able to establish their policy agenda because ... magic.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Invariably followed by something every intelligent 12-year-old gets.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)I count on everyone else to fill in the gaps.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Good post.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)must work though, because I'm finally coming around.
I guess that's what they're saying when they tell me "bye".
moriah
(8,311 posts)... that while I heartily disagree with that person's opinions, I realize they have every right to speak them... but that they crossed a line for me that makes me feel it better for everyone to exercise my option not to see them rather than argue.
The big rule on that has always been to follow through, if you say it, though.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)It's only words.
In any discussion, I typically try to see it from the other person's perspective. So, in any discussion, the WORST possible outcome is the decision to 'agree to disagree'.
Some of the people that I disagree with the most are family and friends that I've know since childhood who have become huuuuge Trump supporters. If I can maintain relationships with people who see things so completely different than me (on Facebook), it should be easy to get along with people who have been drawn to the same discussion board based on the criteria that we both support the democratic party.
I enjoy discussions with people who view things differently. I don't really understand the concept of ignoring people who I disagree with.
moriah
(8,311 posts)... have treated me so egregiously or posted things so egregious thst I just felt it better to let them have their DU, and let me have mine. I always purge my list at GE footingx and it's not in use except during primaries.
But on FB, I have a list I exclude from seeing my political or controversial posts, more so I won't lose friends just because we adamantly disagree and it's not worth offending them. Ultra-religious family, previous coworkers, etc.
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)9. Forgetting how awful the other party's candidate actually will be.
moriah
(8,311 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Posting debunked memes pretending that candidate ads are actual ballots.
Clicking alert on anything in hopes of getting a friendly-jury.
Posting charts and tables made with Windows 95 MS-Paint.
Posting sexist images of Hillary's face Photoshopped onto a stripper's body (or a man's body, or an animal's body).
MineralMan
(146,333 posts)DLnyc
(2,479 posts)might be a failing tactic also.
Also, focusing on criticizing the behavior of (a few of) the other candidate's supporters is generally an ineffective tactic.
More effective might be giving some actual positive reasons why voting for your candidate is a good idea.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)All arguments that use disdain, condescension, bullying, efforts to silence dissent, and efforts to force a false "unity." Claiming that a refusal to vote for one candidate is an automatic vote for another. The perpetual So you want ______________???" The efforts to drum up fear and hatred of Republicans to encourage lesser evil votes. The blaming of losses on people voting their conscience instead of people nominating a candidate who can't or doesn't earn those votes. The "no we can't" mantra spouted to those who want to work for fundamental change.
Those are some I can think of. I could go on, but why?
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)"Not having the good sense to thoughtfully reflect and reconsider."
"Inability to admit making a mistake, correcting it, and moving on."
Thanks!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Also a huge turnoff, the apathy of her supporters about that comment and what it signifies. Her comment inexplicable, the damage irreparable.