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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Mon May 2, 2016, 11:46 PM May 2016

This is an actual, verifiable quote. It has been so verified. It was said in public.

You can find reference to it on reputable internet sites of renown. There is no legitimate reason to dispute it.
I will take his advice and counsel over yours.

This trumps any economic issue- (it's impact on Unions notwithstanding, for reasons that the SCOTUS has affirmed those rights over and over again).

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This is an actual, verifiable quote. It has been so verified. It was said in public. (Original Post) silvershadow May 2016 OP
Why is there a sanders website on that? He hasn't endorsed him. onehandle May 2016 #1
they seem to be faking lots of endorsements, never seen a campaign do this..... bettyellen May 2016 #2
Didn't come from the campaign. Does nobody here know how to look for the source? Luminous Animal May 2016 #7
WOW- what nasty ageist bullshit. LOL @ the pope Why are SBS people spreading these deceptive pics? bettyellen May 2016 #8
No SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 May 2016 #13
Some people marinate in such bitterness..... gotta suck being them. bettyellen May 2016 #15
This is pretty fucking rich. frylock May 2016 #52
what- the nasty ageist reply to questions about where the images are coming from? bettyellen May 2016 #56
Your team has been bagging on millennials since jump. frylock May 2016 #57
I don't have a team. Good luck with the nasty people you have aligned yourself with. bettyellen May 2016 #58
Again, fucking rich. frylock May 2016 #60
SBS would pull down the blinds and refuse to talk to world leaders I guess. LOL. bettyellen May 2016 #61
Blankfein and Kissinger are "world leaders"? frylock May 2016 #62
THEN WHY IS BS NAME ON THAT IMAGE! sheshe2 May 2016 #17
Anybody can attach anything to an image. Have you seen the weird things that have been Luminous Animal May 2016 #20
It is beneath me LA? Thanks so much for the insult. sheshe2 May 2016 #25
You are accusing the Bernie campaign of falsifying with zero evidence. That is beneath you. Luminous Animal May 2016 #28
After trying to get a photo-op with the pope, nothing would shock me, LOL. bettyellen May 2016 #30
So how about addressing the meat of the Carter quote instead of getting all fucking indignant dinkytron May 2016 #37
how about telling someone else what to discuss, LOL. you ain't the boss of me- but perhaps others bettyellen May 2016 #38
I don't give a shit where it came from. sheshe2 May 2016 #32
Don't worry nothing is beneath you. Katashi_itto May 2016 #47
So you have Clinton's endorsement Goblinmonger May 2016 #43
here: G_j May 2016 #64
Like this one? No deception here... grossproffit May 2016 #9
It is called a quote..When Bernie quotes FDR, do you imagine that Bernie is implying that FDR rose.. virtualobserver May 2016 #10
it's called trying to have pope magic rub off on you- and failing, LOL. bettyellen May 2016 #12
That had to be my favorite fail of this year. nt nolawarlock May 2016 #29
Bernie is endorsing the quote.....the only thing fake is your outrage. virtualobserver May 2016 #11
It is amazing... deathrind May 2016 #21
It is not a fake endorsement at all. You obviously are misguided. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 May 2016 #33
Deflect! Deflect! hellofromreddit May 2016 #3
Three minutes to respond. You are slipping. Your post is not worth responding to. rhett o rick May 2016 #4
Which begs the question, why respond? moriah May 2016 #34
It doesn't come form the campaign. So there you go. Luminous Animal May 2016 #6
Interesting takeaway. frylock May 2016 #51
He's absolutely right. TDale313 May 2016 #5
FWIW, he was referring specifically to NSA survelliance. Garrett78 May 2016 #14
Oh, come on now all of you. sadoldgirl May 2016 #16
Dems version of GW Bush; pious and incompetent ericson00 May 2016 #18
Rather than bash (or praise) Carter, folks should consider the context. Garrett78 May 2016 #35
A state of affairs, I would add, Hillary supports and voted for. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #36
Unfortunately, Carter also indicated that he thought Snowden should be prosecuted. Garrett78 May 2016 #39
I am conflicted about whether Snowden should be prosecuted. Understandable that Carter is as well JonLeibowitz May 2016 #40
carter has also said that us elections do no meet the minimum standards questionseverything May 2016 #44
I certainly agree with him, but the quote in the OP was specifically about NSA surveillance. Garrett78 May 2016 #45
Dems version of GW Bush. frylock May 2016 #53
Jimmeh! AzDar May 2016 #19
I agree, and no functioning legitimate elections either nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #22
This primary ripped the mask off the entire system...having nothing to do with the issues silvershadow May 2016 #23
Indeed it has nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #24
Yes it is. I cannot unknown it either so that's not happening. silvershadow May 2016 #26
As has been demonstrated numerous times during this primary. nt haikugal May 2016 #54
Quick! Everyone scrub your feeds, walls, profiles, blogs, websites, siggies, Kittycat May 2016 #31
I guess... tk2kewl May 2016 #41
Politics has just become nothing more than a stage play. VulgarPoet May 2016 #42
A wise man speaking the truth. tabasco May 2016 #46
And so the saga continues! Sancho May 2016 #48
This is really all that Sanders and his supporters amount to; bumper-sticker rhetoric Tarc May 2016 #49
I think some actually believe dank memes= votes. bettyellen May 2016 #59
Those words on a poster with a bottom line referring to the jwirr May 2016 #50
No, it isn't. "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" is false advertising. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan May 2016 #63
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
2. they seem to be faking lots of endorsements, never seen a campaign do this.....
Mon May 2, 2016, 11:51 PM
May 2016

yet complain when ballot cards have voting suggestions on it- as if THAT is deceptive.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
7. Didn't come from the campaign. Does nobody here know how to look for the source?
Mon May 2, 2016, 11:57 PM
May 2016

It's easy. If you can't figure it out, ask your grandchildren.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. WOW- what nasty ageist bullshit. LOL @ the pope Why are SBS people spreading these deceptive pics?
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

This has to be the fifth or sixth phony endorsement I saw. It's so silly.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
56. what- the nasty ageist reply to questions about where the images are coming from?
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

What an awesome bunch of campaigners you guys are.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
58. I don't have a team. Good luck with the nasty people you have aligned yourself with.
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:43 PM
May 2016

Great campaigners, obviously, from the way things are going.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
20. Anybody can attach anything to an image. Have you seen the weird things that have been
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:34 AM
May 2016

attached to Abraham Lincoln's image? Have you not heard of photoshop?

Really she. This is below you.

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
25. It is beneath me LA? Thanks so much for the insult.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:40 AM
May 2016

Sorry, you are incorrect here. This is falsifying support for BS when there is none.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
28. You are accusing the Bernie campaign of falsifying with zero evidence. That is beneath you.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:46 AM
May 2016

This image did not come from the campaign. Just stop.

dinkytron

(568 posts)
37. So how about addressing the meat of the Carter quote instead of getting all fucking indignant
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:26 AM
May 2016

and accusative about some anonymous person's photo shop. Or is that too uncomfortable for you to deal with.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
38. how about telling someone else what to discuss, LOL. you ain't the boss of me- but perhaps others
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:29 AM
May 2016

here are under your employ and you had a moment of confusion?

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
32. I don't give a shit where it came from.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:58 AM
May 2016

It is being promoted as fact. So is the Pope image.

You may not be doing it yet the OPs are and so are the KnRecs.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
10. It is called a quote..When Bernie quotes FDR, do you imagine that Bernie is implying that FDR rose..
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:07 AM
May 2016

from the grave and endorsed him?

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
21. It is amazing...
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:35 AM
May 2016

Bernie could post a picture of rain pointing out the importance of water and the other side would be outraged because Mother Nature has not endorsed Sanders...

Unbelievable...

Response to Live and Learn (Reply #27)

moriah

(8,311 posts)
34. Which begs the question, why respond?
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:08 AM
May 2016

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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. He's absolutely right.
Mon May 2, 2016, 11:54 PM
May 2016

Till we fix this, there's no fixing the other issues we face.We need to make sure people can vote and that their votes count, and we need real campaign finance reform.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
16. Oh, come on now all of you.
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:18 AM
May 2016

As long as we are pretending that the votes count,
and watch Disney movies and sports events,
everything is running smoothly.


(sarc)

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
18. Dems version of GW Bush; pious and incompetent
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:29 AM
May 2016

, and both only won the popular vote once; Carter can go back to farming peanuts.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
35. Rather than bash (or praise) Carter, folks should consider the context.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:11 AM
May 2016

He was referring specifically to NSA surveillance and the Edward Snowden affair. Nothing more.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
39. Unfortunately, Carter also indicated that he thought Snowden should be prosecuted.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:32 AM
May 2016

While adding that the invasion of privacy has gone too far.

Personally, I wouldn't prosecute Snowden. Or Chelsea Manning. Or other whistle blowers, who often get charged while the whistle blown go free.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
40. I am conflicted about whether Snowden should be prosecuted. Understandable that Carter is as well
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:35 AM
May 2016

Heck, Snowden himself has even indicated he would come back to the US for a fair trial (unlikely to occur), indicating he is (at least in his rhetoric) willing to accept responsibility for perhaps going across the line.

I personally lean towards a full pardon because his service to the country was immeasurable.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
44. carter has also said that us elections do no meet the minimum standards
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:13 PM
May 2016

and he has decried the big money in politics so not just about snowden

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
45. I certainly agree with him, but the quote in the OP was specifically about NSA surveillance.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

That was my only point.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. I agree, and no functioning legitimate elections either
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:36 AM
May 2016

Thank you Mr. President, for stating the obvious.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
23. This primary ripped the mask off the entire system...having nothing to do with the issues
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:38 AM
May 2016

discussed (though some issues clearly were similarly affected). Just, the way we ran our elections this time.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
31. Quick! Everyone scrub your feeds, walls, profiles, blogs, websites, siggies,
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:51 AM
May 2016

Etc. from any quotes you've ever posted. Because clearly the only thing more criminal and underhanded than remembering to attribute a quote to it's originator, is to agree with them and share it at all!


Btw, thank you to all who participated in this production of tonight's play on feigned outrage. It was a beautiful demonstration of how we get distracted from what the OP's quote highlighted. Your excellent acting skills will surely help everyone remember this moment, and get back to discussing real issues. If I could grant you all academy awards for best supporting actors/actresses, I would.

Bravo bravo

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
42. Politics has just become nothing more than a stage play.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

We all know how it's going to end, despite our best efforts.

ETA: I'm hoping for a "Scottish Play" ending myself.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
46. A wise man speaking the truth.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

It is time for the good people of this nation to rise up and take back power from the oligarchs and criminals.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
48. And so the saga continues!
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:43 PM
May 2016

Americans have been changing the system, who votes, and how to vote since George Washington.

Minority votes, women votes, and over 18 year old votes occurred within the lifetimes of people who are still alive.

There will continue to be changes. Glad to see that Bernie has noticed...he's a little slow perhaps.



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
59. I think some actually believe dank memes= votes.
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:44 PM
May 2016

Kind of sad how these silly tweets and FB posts have replaced real conversation.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
50. Those words on a poster with a bottom line referring to the
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:01 PM
May 2016

33 State Democratic Party deal and super-delegates would make a great sign to carry at our state and federal conventions.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
55. No, it isn't. "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" is false advertising.
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:23 PM
May 2016

But, we've become adept at calling it democracy and foolish enough for some to believe it.

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