Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:08 AM May 2016

Wasserman-Schultz takes a swipe at Bernie: ‘Irony’ in Bernie Trying to Win Using Superdelegates

DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz remarked upon the irony of Bernie Sanders‘ criticisms about a rigged superdelegate system.

Wasserman Schultz insisted that the voters will ultimately decide the nominee, the nominee has never been selected by superdelegates, and there’s no way Donald Trump could beat Hillary Clinton.

Nicolle Wallace did ask her about the possibility of Trump beating Clinton and Sanders’ attacks on her being to blame. The DNC chair didn’t want to entertain that notion.

When John Heilemann moved on to other Sanders critiques of the Democratic primary system, Wasserman Schultz remarked, “Can I also just point out that there is some irony in criticizing a process that now he says he wants to use to become the party’s nominee. Just saying.”

Remember, Sanders has denounced the idea of superdelegates whilst making the case that, hey, superdelegates should be coming over to him and maybe helping pick him as the nominee.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/wasserman-schultz-irony-in-bernie-trying-to-win-using-the-process-he-criticizes/

18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Wasserman-Schultz takes a swipe at Bernie: ‘Irony’ in Bernie Trying to Win Using Superdelegates (Original Post) Cali_Democrat May 2016 OP
Bernie is fine with overturning the will of the states ... nolawarlock May 2016 #1
If the super delegates would ever over turn the pledged winner, morningfog May 2016 #2
The purpose of the super delegates griffi94 May 2016 #8
How do the super delegates serve that purpose? morningfog May 2016 #9
A candidate like David Duke griffi94 May 2016 #11
Or, for example, a candidate who arrives at convention still under active FBI investigation... nt silvershadow May 2016 #17
I don't think that would be as much of an issue griffi94 May 2016 #18
That's not how wasserman explained it. She said it was more of a way to organize BootinUp May 2016 #10
Bernie is just ranting now griffi94 May 2016 #3
It's a good point that many people have noticed Renew Deal May 2016 #4
I think "irony" was a very polite term. NanceGreggs May 2016 #5
The change in tone is worth calling out KingFlorez May 2016 #6
Bernie is making a mistake and misleading a lot of people who listen to him. nt BootinUp May 2016 #7
Just dropping by to remind everyone that Tad Devine invented the Superdelegate system! JaneyVee May 2016 #12
Jesus gosh darned pickles! northernsouthern May 2016 #13
There's also irony in her complaining about non-democrats when she has Sheldon Adelson on speed dial Warren DeMontague May 2016 #14
DWS has Sheldon Adelson on speed dial? nt Cali_Democrat May 2016 #15
Yes. She worked with his "drug free florida" org to put medical marijuana users in prison. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #16

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
1. Bernie is fine with overturning the will of the states ...
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:11 AM
May 2016

... when it's Grijalva and others. This guy just wants to win however he has to. Hey, more power to him. He's hampering the ability of the presumptive nominee to build her war chest against Trump but I don't think she'll have all that much trouble and she pretty much knows it's going to be her anyway. She can afford to cast a dismissive glance at The Bern every once in awhile as she continues to hammer Trump.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
8. The purpose of the super delegates
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:25 AM
May 2016

is to keep indies, Reuplicans, and other assorted non Democrats
from sabotaging the Democratic nomination.

Bernies is going to have the fewest pledged delegates and less total votes.
Why should the super delegates set that aside.

Just because the Bernie supporters really really want Bernie to win.

Bernie agreed to the rules when he decided to run as a Democrat.

Bernie seems to be just ranting now.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
9. How do the super delegates serve that purpose?
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:33 AM
May 2016

What scenario would they be used to usurp the vote results?

And of course he supers won't go to Bernie, unless something seismic happened.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
11. A candidate like David Duke
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:41 AM
May 2016

who at one time could have possibly carried most of the southern states where the primaries are open and there are a lot of delegates.


The supers won't go to Bernie nor should they.
He's not going to have the most delegates nor the most votes.

I don't know why it's even being talked about except
that Bernie is losing and he's starting to rant.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
18. I don't think that would be as much of an issue
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

Especially if that candidate had a lead
of 300 deleagtes and 3 million votes
and the only other choice was an Indie
who had been a Democrat less than a year
and had repeatedly ripped on the party and the base
of the party.

She's got this in the bag.
300 delegates 3 million vote lead.

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
10. That's not how wasserman explained it. She said it was more of a way to organize
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:34 AM
May 2016

who attends conventions than anything else.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
3. Bernie is just ranting now
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:15 AM
May 2016

No way the superdelegates flip and give Bernie
the nominatation over the legitimate winner who has
a 300 delegate lead and 3 million more votes.

No way they set aside the prefered candidate of the Democratic base
women older voters POC.

No way anybody but the most devoted Bernie supporter buys into the
argument that the candidate with the fewest delegates and votes
is the most electable.

Bernie seems to be flaming out.

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
4. It's a good point that many people have noticed
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

"The Super-Delegates are the devil... And I want them to support me."

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
13. Jesus gosh darned pickles!
Tue May 3, 2016, 12:56 AM
May 2016

How is it ironic that he is trying to gain control and stop the group that are corrupt and have stolen the election? Ironic would be if they all voted for Bernie...and Debbie found herself campaigning to get them removed.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. There's also irony in her complaining about non-democrats when she has Sheldon Adelson on speed dial
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:39 AM
May 2016

last time I checked, he was a republican.

But he's got a big ol' checkbook to help advance her vitally important legislative priorities--- like sticking sick people in prison for using medical marijuana, so I guess that's okay.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Wasserman-Schultz takes a...