2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuestion: Why did Hillary Work for Goldwater and NOT For Dr. Martin Luther King?
RandySF
(58,903 posts)I guess we can discuss what a what a 28-year old wrote in 1969.
Often "a child has an old bitch of a teacher (and there are many of them) or pehaps (sic) he simply is not interested in school and would rather be doing other thing (sic)," Sanders wrote in his column, "Cancer, Disease and Society," for an alternative publication called The Vermont Freeman.
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=hillay+clinton+born&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=bernie+sanders+born
Marr
(20,317 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)then it would be.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Questionable essays.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)was a daughter of a strong Republican father, sometimes we are influenced by our fathers. She was also in high school, went to hear MLK speak, again she went with someone else.
Why do you ask?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)I remember Goldwater's campaign well.
Rumor on the street - and yes at the time I lived in a White Influential Upper Middle Class neighborhood, was "Goldwater was going to ship them all back to Africa"
It wasn't just Anti-Civil Rights, it was push back against the 14th Amendment
Trying to explain it away as a daughter trying to please her father just simply doesn't apply
JI7
(89,252 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)seem to trip up the Clinton's eventually.
Lies can't stand up to the truth of time.
NewImproved Deal
(534 posts)Time to retire the Clinton Dynasty--America has outgrown them...like the Bush Dynasty.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)Stuffing words in his mouth?
TM99
(8,352 posts)I am doing all I can to see them both crumble and fall.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)What was their relationship? Lets talk shall we?
TM99
(8,352 posts)so you try a smear instead of Jane Sanders.
You are a testament to your kind, Clinton supporter. Bravo!
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Last edited Tue May 3, 2016, 02:17 AM - Edit history (1)
Man u guys are getting desperate.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Hillary was doing in 1964.
But I do care a great deal what she was doing in 2002, as in voting for a war in Iraq.
And I care a great deal that she lied about coming under fire in Bosnia, or that she totally lied about the Reagans starting a dialogue about AIDS. Excuse me? Anyone who had any brain waves at all in the 1980s knew perfectly well that the Reagans were totally silent about AIDS. Exactly what sort of alternate universe does she live in?
And I'm even more concerned that she will happily compromise a woman's right to control her own body, will privatize Social Security, will continue the outsourcing of jobs, will happily preside over the complete and utter demise of the middle class in this country.
All of you who support her, who vote for her this fall, do not be surprised when any of those things come about.
Me? I'm 67 and I'll be grandfathered into Social Security, I'm reasonably certain. Meanwhile, unlike most people (many of whom earned vastly larger sums than I ever did) I'll be ok. If I were to zero out my Social Security, things would be quite tight, but I'd actually manage. How about you?
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)"I'm very PROUD that I was a Goldwater Girl"
amborin
(16,631 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)What alternative universe does she live in, and her supporters? I've never ever felt so unwanted in this Party.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Votes for war -98 Iraq liberation, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, vote for mass incarcerstion, vote to deregulate awall Street, votes against gun control,
His lies about global warming being the cause of terrorism.
His lie that Clinton laundered money
Lied about endorsements
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Too bad there's no substance behind them. Didn't Dave send you all the memos?
Ino
(3,366 posts)"We got to wear cowboy hats. We had a sash that said, you know, I voted AUH2O. I mean, it was really a lot of fun."
"I'm very proud that I was a Goldwater Girl"
amborin
(16,631 posts)sheshe2
(83,791 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)There are a lot of things you don't care about.
I knew as a teenager that Goldwater was a lying pos and he was hateful. And I have always been a Democrat. H, on the other hand, did not and is hardly a real Democrat but she is using the party and her husband's name to make herself rich and powerful.
I do care because I am a Democrat. But you don't care.
amborin
(16,631 posts)she's just using the party, for her own greed and quest for power. She's not a Democrat; she's the antithesis of one.
And our problem is we have so many who "don't care"
Their "don't care" is part of why our democracy is so corrupted.
Just imagine if they did care?
onenote
(42,714 posts)You have always been a Democrat, so that makes you better than someone who hasn't always been a Democrat. Someone, I suppose, like Elizabeth Warren or Tulsi "As Democrats we should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists" (a real quote, not a made up one) Gabbard.
It's not the best strategy for a political revolution to simultaneously try to convert people from their prior views while sending the message that they will be condemned for life for those prior views.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... to where MLK actually made this statement?
I've searched, and can't find one.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)and found this
https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/chapter-23-mississippi-challenge
It's in his autobiography.
Middle of the fourth paragraph.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)with the radical right. The "best man" at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
It was both unfortunate and disastrous that the Republican Party nominated Barry Goldwater as its candidate for President of the United States. In foreign policy Mr. Goldwater advocated a narrow nationalism, a crippling isolationism, and a trigger-happy attitude that could plunge the whole world into the dark abyss of annihilation. On social and economic issues, Mr. Goldwater represented an unrealistic conservatism that was totally out of touch with the realities of the twentieth century. The issue of poverty compelled the attention of all citizens of our country. Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated.
On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... is the quote that appears in the OP?
It's obviously NOT there, is it? MLK did NOT say, "If Hillary Clinton was so moved by meeting me ...," et cetera.
Blatant dishonesty - but I guess that's all some people have left.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)I was posting from my mobile device and it doesn't show which post you were responding too. I had to go back to Standard Mode on my computer to see you were responding to the OP. I thought anyone would know the OP quote was fake and you were responding to the second meme that had Hillary and MLK. There is no way MLK would make an actual quote about Hillary, she was a nobody at the time. The quote on the second meme is real. The interface on DU mobile is crappy and causes a lot of confusion sometime.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... problem with certain devices.
However, it is not acceptable to put quotation marks around a statement that was never uttered, and then attribute it to someone who never said it.
"I thought anyone would know the OP quote was fake ...". I DID know it was fake - which is why I pointed out how dishonest it is to place it in quotation marks, which denote a verbatim statement.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)The paragraph from his autobiography does NOT contain the quote used in the OP. He talks about Goldwater - says nothing about Hillary.
It is blatantly dishonest to put a statement in quotes and attribute it to someone who NEVER made that statement.
But given the circumstances, it's exactly the kind of dishonesty I've come to expect from a certain contingent here.
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... a statement in quotes, and attributing it to someone who never made that statement?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)See my post above. Some people don't know how to use google
NanceGreggs
(27,815 posts)... to search for the quote that is being attributed to Dr. King in the OP.
I couldn't find it - because it doesn't exist. MLK never made the statement he is "quoted" as saying here.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Follow my link. It is in his autobiography.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)She's learned to shape-shift, and manipulate groups for political gain. She's truly is the worst kind of human being.
annavictorious
(934 posts)a sophomore in high school at the time? If those are your metrics, maybe we should look at the candidate's SAT scores as well.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)LexVegas
(6,067 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Someone who is 17 does not even have a fully developed brain yet. Hillary grew up on a Republican household, and became a Democrat in college, where she worked closely with other campus leaders to increase diversity on campus. But we're now supposed to believe that there is some kind of rejection of MLK's principles involved in her 17 year old unsophisticated self not yet being a Democrat?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)So what does going back to the 1960s indicate?
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)same reason she works for wall street and not main street.
she likes to be where the money is
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Classy.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)How did Sanders go from Marching with MLK, to writing sexual rape fantasies that would make Trump blush?
Nice to see MLK has endorsed Sanders.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I really don't like that MLK is being dragged into this.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)jamese777
(546 posts)In the New York Primary, exit polls showed Sanders and Clinton equally splitting the white vote while Clinton got 75% of the black vote and 64% of the Latino vote.
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/ny/dem
"...neither Cruz nor Trump does nearly as well with women as does Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee. In the last week of April, Clinton had a +2 net favorable rating among women, while Cruz had a -26 and Trump a whopping -45 net favorable. The disparity in views of Clinton and Trump among women is also interesting, given that Trump said last week that "women don't like Hillary." They certainly like her a lot more than they like Trump."
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/191306/cruz-trump-carly-fiorina-woman-card.aspx?g_source=Polling%20Matters&g_medium=lead&g_campaign=tiles
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)The winds are often shifting, what's a poor young weather vane to do? Do you think it's easy to figure out where everyone is going so you can run up to the front and holler "follow me!"?
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!