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PREDICTION: Senator Sanders will graciously call for the unanimous nomination of HRC (Original Post) Maru Kitteh May 2016 OP
I think that's a given (nt) Recursion May 2016 #1
This would be good. Thinkingabout May 2016 #2
His ENTIRE Political Life Would Then Be Branded As A HYPOCRITE! CorporatistNation May 2016 #9
1990 Socialist Scholars "It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat Maru Kitteh May 2016 #12
Hey I know a lot of Democrats who criticized the party during the '80s. Zen Democrat May 2016 #33
He has pretty much been there and done that. LuvLoogie May 2016 #16
Even if Bernie goes to the convention Demsrule86 May 2016 #34
He'd become an embarrassment. grossproffit May 2016 #41
indeed. n/t Maru Kitteh May 2016 #70
Don't bet on it pinebox May 2016 #3
So, you're saying Sanders will be a sore loser? brooklynite May 2016 #5
Try reading again pinebox May 2016 #8
I DID say "any remaining"... brooklynite May 2016 #11
You haven't listened to Bernie really listened have you. bkkyosemite May 2016 #54
There isn't much to listen to after his empty rhetoric. Same speech ad infinitum... KittyWampus May 2016 #57
What did the DNC do to him? Give him access to the Democratic infrastructure and voter database? LuvLoogie May 2016 #17
Start here pinebox May 2016 #18
After the independent findings, Bernie dropped the law suit. Why? Sheepshank May 2016 #80
I agree Hav May 2016 #4
I sure hope so. cwydro May 2016 #6
I think his goal is to influence the DNC platform. He'll negotiate first. yardwork May 2016 #7
His clout diminishes every day. NurseJackie May 2016 #10
yup. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #14
In 2008 the race went on even after it was impossable for Clinton to win TimPlo May 2016 #22
Hillary wasn't using her campaign as a platform to weaken the party ... and ... NurseJackie May 2016 #23
Sorry how in hell do you know what I think? TimPlo May 2016 #29
Oh my! :-P NurseJackie May 2016 #36
Remember PUMA? (Party unity my @$$) bklyncowgirl May 2016 #79
Are you kidding Demsrule86 May 2016 #32
True. And I called her out on it as an Obama supporters. BUT, she did NOT claim rigged elections. KittyWampus May 2016 #59
Clinton won't be president without his supporters. Period. nt lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #56
She will have the greatest majority of them. You are peeved that she will be President. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #73
Don't tell me what I think. You suck at it. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #76
Tee hee. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #78
and she is losing voters everyday timmymoff May 2016 #84
He will pay the necessary lip-service according to the moires of political etiquette azurnoir May 2016 #13
how very admirable Maru Kitteh May 2016 #15
all things considered yes it is azurnoir May 2016 #68
PREDICTION: Your greatest wish is your own fantasy... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #19
Of course. JaneyVee May 2016 #20
What percent of Bernie supporters will not vote for Hillary? kentuck May 2016 #21
about 10% JoePhilly May 2016 #25
Bingo. BootinUp May 2016 #39
Could be, but Andy823 May 2016 #44
About the same number of Bernie supporters Codeine May 2016 #47
Oooo BERN! Maru Kitteh May 2016 #74
Much lower than that, and mostly Sanders 'supporters' MineralMan May 2016 #49
No more than 5% of Sanders supporters who were actually Democrats or left-leaning KittyWampus May 2016 #61
YUP ... shortly after the last primary when the votes are all counted. JoePhilly May 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #26
TOO LATE! lol. Preemptively, under the bus! Maru Kitteh May 2016 #81
I'm less optimistic than you. NurseJackie May 2016 #27
total bullshit. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #28
I hope so Demsrule86 May 2016 #30
When the next war comes around.... seekthetruth May 2016 #31
Whatever that means. MoonRiver May 2016 #43
Clinton supporters. seekthetruth May 2016 #50
Riiiiiight! MoonRiver May 2016 #51
Not trying to turn anyone.... seekthetruth May 2016 #58
YOUR completely biased interpretation of Hillary Clinton's thought processes and mind set. NUFF SAID MoonRiver May 2016 #62
Biased? seekthetruth May 2016 #65
And the vast majority of DEMOCRATS are perfectly ok with her record. n/t MoonRiver May 2016 #66
Sure. seekthetruth May 2016 #82
Yes, at the convention, when, as seems likely, she will win on superdelegates HereSince1628 May 2016 #35
PREDICTION: HRC will withdraw her nomination after the FBI confirms she violated her security oath leveymg May 2016 #37
I agree mcar May 2016 #38
People are going to lose patience before the convention nt BootinUp May 2016 #40
It is in Hillary's hands. peace13 May 2016 #52
As I said, people will be losing patience with Bernie and no amount of BootinUp May 2016 #53
If you think this issue will go away with Bernie... peace13 May 2016 #64
if she is the nominee, yes. shireen May 2016 #42
Sanders supporters in swing states, probably. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #83
Bookmarked. And why would he ever do that Betty Karlson May 2016 #45
Even you don't believe that anymore. nt Codeine May 2016 #48
I believe he may well do so. Betty Karlson May 2016 #71
Did they add more states last night? grossproffit May 2016 #67
Nope: California lies ahead. Betty Karlson May 2016 #72
Doubt it, as that would end the revolution, that Hillary does not participate in ViseGrip May 2016 #46
Not without meaningful policy concessions from the DNC. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #55
yawn. artislife May 2016 #60
Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #63
A preemptive toss under the bus for Senator Sanders Maru Kitteh May 2016 #75
I'm objecting to the idea that he would voluntarily join Hillary under the bus. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #77
I agree with that - I think he will also - it is the right thing to do DrDan May 2016 #69
I smell something Bernin'! Hint: It's INDIANA... AzDar May 2016 #85

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
12. 1990 Socialist Scholars "It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

"It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."
- Socialist Scholars Conference in New York City, April 1990.

Bernard Sanders

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
33. Hey I know a lot of Democrats who criticized the party during the '80s.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

ME, for one. The Democratic Party and the media enabled the Reagan Revolution and Reaganomics, IMO. Not that I've ever voted for a Republican ... nor do I believe Bernie Sanders has ever supported a Republican.

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
34. Even if Bernie goes to the convention
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

Hillary has the votes...she goes in on the first ballot. Call it what you want. You are thinking a contested convention is a brokered convention...not the same thing at all. First ballot.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
3. Don't bet on it
Tue May 3, 2016, 06:52 AM
May 2016

After what the DNC has done to him? A certain someone from a an entirely different party has reached out to Bernie for collaboration.

brooklynite

(94,594 posts)
5. So, you're saying Sanders will be a sore loser?
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:03 AM
May 2016

As well as a political loser? Running as a candidate on the Green Party would destroy any remaining influence he had in the Democratic Senate caucus.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
8. Try reading again
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:09 AM
May 2016

It's funny that you say "Running as a candidate on the Green Party would destroy any remaining influence he had in the Democratic Senate caucus" yet you post articles like this http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511667820

Sorry, from the "Bernie isn't a real Dem crowd", for someone like you to be suddenly concerned about Bernie's influence is nothing sort of bullshit.

brooklynite

(94,594 posts)
11. I DID say "any remaining"...
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:21 AM
May 2016

But how I feel about him personally has nothing to do with my cold-hearted analysis of political reality.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
57. There isn't much to listen to after his empty rhetoric. Same speech ad infinitum...
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:01 AM
May 2016

with no ability to do into depth about anything as evidenced by the editorial board meeting w/Daily News.

At this point, it seems Sanders supporters are the ones who have failed to critically listen to him.

LuvLoogie

(7,011 posts)
17. What did the DNC do to him? Give him access to the Democratic infrastructure and voter database?
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:39 AM
May 2016

Give him a platform for his positions and access to the debate stage and primary schedule? What did they do to Bernie?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
80. After the independent findings, Bernie dropped the law suit. Why?
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

....lack of any standing.

Wasting campaign money and court time, he'd have had a public spanking and it would have been humiliating.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
4. I agree
Tue May 3, 2016, 06:56 AM
May 2016

I think we will see something similar like what happened in 2008. He isn't delusional. At the time of the convention, he will know whether he has the votes or not.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
7. I think his goal is to influence the DNC platform. He'll negotiate first.
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:07 AM
May 2016

A lot of these negotiations are behind the scenes.

After negotiations are complete, Bernie will ask his supporters to unite behind the Democratic nominee.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
22. In 2008 the race went on even after it was impossable for Clinton to win
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

I am kinda confused why there is some urgent need to end it now? In 2008 DNC had less of chance to get GE and I don't recall a urgent need for Clinton to stop. This time around with Trump as RNC candidate it is going to be much easier so not much need to cry sky is falling because not campaigning for GE.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. Hillary wasn't using her campaign as a platform to weaken the party ... and ...
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016
This time around with Trump as RNC candidate it is going to be much easier so not much need to cry sky is falling because not campaigning for GE.

Well ... "I am kinda confused" why you'd say this, when the consensus is that Hillary is "so disliked" and has "so many negatives" and will be "easily crushed" by Trump. (Make up your minds, people!)
 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
29. Sorry how in hell do you know what I think?
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

I just joined this site because I was interested in finding out more about the election. And here you are accusing me of saying all these things about a candidate that I never said. I just learned about ignore function so unless you retract this post and admit I never said any of those things in my like 5 posts I have had I guess I'll get my first use of that ignore system. Not that you care as reading your posts in this thread it appears to me you are not interested in debate.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
36. Oh my! :-P
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016
I just joined this site because I was interested in finding out more about the election.

Okay. If you say so, I'll take you at your word.

And here you are accusing me of saying all these things about a candidate that I never said.

GMAFB! Actually, it's YOU accusing me of saying things that I clearly didn't say.

Look again, and you'll see that my previous post was noting how your words actually go against and contradict this site's consensus opinions about Hillary and her chances of defeating Trump.

Here's what I said: Well ... "I am kinda confused" why you'd say this, when the consensus is that Hillary is "so disliked" and has "so many negatives" and will be "easily crushed" by Trump. (Make up your minds, people!)

Kindly point to the words where I supposedly accuse you of saying things about a candidate that you never said. (I'll wait.)

I just learned about ignore function so unless you retract this post and admit I never said any of those things in my like 5 posts I have had I guess I'll get my first use of that ignore system.



Okay. Then I can continue to respond to you unchallenged. That suits me fine.

Not that you care as reading your posts in this thread it appears to me you are not interested in debate.

The "debate" is already over. Bernie will not be the nominee.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
79. Remember PUMA? (Party unity my @$$)
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

Don't tell me that was an attempt at party building. Clinton supporters have short memories.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
59. True. And I called her out on it as an Obama supporters. BUT, she did NOT claim rigged elections.
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:03 AM
May 2016

Sanders and his campaign are now claiming the elections are rigged in states he didn't win.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
73. She will have the greatest majority of them. You are peeved that she will be President.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

No, period. End of story. You are peeved that she will be President.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
19. PREDICTION: Your greatest wish is your own fantasy...
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:42 AM
May 2016

This would have happened already, except for the fact that Hillary thumbed her noses at the issues because she believes she has the votes.

Sure...

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
44. Could be, but
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

75%, or more, of your 50 are not really what they claim to be. They most likely have never voted for a Democrat, nor will they ever vote for one.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
47. About the same number of Bernie supporters
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

who couldn't be bothered to vote for Bernie, I suppose.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
49. Much lower than that, and mostly Sanders 'supporters'
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

who wouldn't have voted for Sanders, either. maybe 10-15%. They'll be way outnumbered by Republicans who won't vote for Trump, but who will vote for Clinton. Same with independents.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
61. No more than 5% of Sanders supporters who were actually Democrats or left-leaning
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

will not vote for Hillary.

I exclude all the Republicans who voted/caucused for him to try and get a weak candidate on the Dem side.

Response to Maru Kitteh (Original post)

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
30. I hope so
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:03 AM
May 2016

I watched him and Jane last night on various shows. To say I was enraged is an understatement. I turned off the show...not that there is much about the Dems on TV...Trump gets most of the air time. I hope you are right. I would be the classy thing to do.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
51. Riiiiiight!
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

That silly meme has been put to bed. Iow, it was tried and failed miserably. Haters thought that threatening their disapproval would turn Hillary supporters!

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
58. Not trying to turn anyone....
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:01 AM
May 2016

....just simply alluding to the fact that your candidate is a conservative who chooses war over peace.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
82. Sure.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

As a result of closed primaries. Most independents are vastly dissolutioned with the Democratic Party, and Sanis bringing them into the process in droves.

It just sucks in NY that an independent had to have changed their party last October to be able to vote in the state's recent primary. I wonder if it would have been an open primary, how the results would have been different.....? I don't Hillay would have had the lead that she does.

You guys are going to keep hearing from us Sanders supporters because you're part of the system that is rigged for the establishment.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
35. Yes, at the convention, when, as seems likely, she will win on superdelegates
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016

And just before she's again supoenaed to appear before congression hearings about running a mole in the CIA via Clinton Foundation employee Sid Blumenthal.

Of course -every- sec of state has run such operations, so no one will care.



leveymg

(36,418 posts)
37. PREDICTION: HRC will withdraw her nomination after the FBI confirms she violated her security oath
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:41 AM
May 2016

That will happen long enough before the Convention so there is no panic and rioting on the floor.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
52. It is in Hillary's hands.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

She could hand over the transcripts and make it easier on everyone. She said she would on several occasions.

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
53. As I said, people will be losing patience with Bernie and no amount of
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:58 AM
May 2016

silly logic from his worshippers is going to change that.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
64. If you think this issue will go away with Bernie...
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:30 AM
May 2016

...then one of us is certainly delusional. Silly and worshipper goes along with people who refuse the facts. The right will show those transcripts, if not the videos. We will all pay the price for blind faith!

shireen

(8,333 posts)
42. if she is the nominee, yes.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

And most of Sanders supporters will vote for her.

Meanwhile, I'm still holding out hope.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
83. Sanders supporters in swing states, probably.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

In states where it doesn't matter, I imagine a lot of Bernie supporters will skip the presidential race, if my FB feed is any indication.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
45. Bookmarked. And why would he ever do that
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:32 AM
May 2016

especially when he will have more pledged delegates than her, going into the convention?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
72. Nope: California lies ahead.
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

And your foregone conclusion could well end in Alcatraz's museum - together with all the other inequities of the 20th century that ly there and die there.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
63. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine
Tue May 3, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

I'd applaud his graciousness but question his principles.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
77. I'm objecting to the idea that he would voluntarily join Hillary under the bus.
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016

On, in the Wall Street pocket she comfortably inhabits.

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