2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary and her supporters are going to rue the day
they didn't take our (independents) demands to be cajoled and persuaded to vote for her in the very most deferential way!
Please!
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)
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boston bean
(36,221 posts)LOL
so true...
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)While lying through his teeth about it?
No shit. Wow.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Only, I had more respect for Edwards and I do for Sanders. (And that includes my consideration of the shitty way that John treated Elizabeth... so make of that what you will and draw your own conclusions of how much regard I have for Sanders.)
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)TTFN
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Gothmog
(145,303 posts)The bernie or bust threat is not going to work http://thedailybanter.com/2016/02/nevada-bernie-sanders-or-bust/
Except that this is the same kind of political hostage-taking the Republicans currently in Congress have become pariahs for engaging in. When the GOP has in the recent past threatened to allow the government to go into default because it doesnt have the votes or the power to get what it wants through the proper channels, wise people have looked for the nearest brick to throw at its representatives. Now, if these Sanders acolytes are to be believed, the ostensible other end of the political spectrum is trying to pull the same crap: threaten to burn the country down because they cant get what they want any other way. Like all forms of political terrorism, if you give in to this nonsense itll just embolden the next fringe group that cant see its demands met by putting it to a vote. And thats really the problem here: these ........ apparently cant understand that in this country it all comes down to a vote and if their guy doesnt get enough of them, he doesnt win. Simple as that.
Ive said from the very beginning that the Republicans are so thoroughly batshit and so unconscionably dangerous right now that a victory for them in November should be out of the question. Because of this, whoever were to win the nomination for the Democrats has to be the person sane people vote for, because he or she is all that stands between America and a new Dark Ages, particularly when you take the Supreme Court into account. If Bernie Sanders were to win, hed get my vote. If Hillary Clinton were to win, shed get my vote. Thats how, I believe, decent, evolved people think -- people who arent petulant children. Id like to believe that the Bernie or Bust crowd is just making idle threats, but given its well-documented behavior over the past several months -- coupled with the fact that Bernies white millennial base likely believes it has the luxury of being able to survive in the GOPs vision of future America -- it seems far more likely that if Sanders doesnt win, theyll stay home and sulk rather than do their civic duty for the good of the country.
What does that mean for the rest of us? It means well simply have to do it without them. Well have no other choice.
Again, no one is going to change their vote and support Sanders based on the fact that some Sanders supporters will not support the nominee of the party.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)It's a larger potential apathy among people who don't see Clinton as superior to Trump. They see her as representing an irrelevant and corrupt system that does nothing for average people because it is so intertwined with Big Money.
And that's not just "Bernie of Bust." It's much larger than that, and crosses many ideological spectrums.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It's a good thing that the Democrats and Hillary aren't as stupid as that.
frylock
(34,825 posts)JSup
(740 posts)...I roux'd yesterday. Mmmm, gumbo.