2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI had lunch with a Member of Congress from Arizona today...
...who says Clinton will WIN Arizona against Trump, and PROBABLY win against Cruz.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)She's a gift to the state of Arizona, they're lucky to have her!
brush
(53,787 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)blue state. I think it will go for Hillary in November. It certainly should.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)I read something the other day that his campaign is admiringly stating it's likely to be his most difficult campaign ever, he may not even survive the primary.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)He's going to take a lot of folks down with him.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)My brother is convinced she'll take Utah. He lives there and says most of the Republican mormons don't like the type of nastiness and vulgarity that Trump's bringing to the race.
frylock
(34,825 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Seriously
AzDar
(14,023 posts)If she is the Dem Nominee she will LOSE AZ... and it won't be pretty.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Az voted for her overwhelmingly! Independents could have switched affiliation to vote in the dem primary, they chose not to do that.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Arizona Republicans are firmly in control of that system and have been for years! How in the world can you possible insinuate that Hillary had anything to do with it? Yes, the state closed down many polling locations, that sucked for everyone, people still got to vote!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)deny that there was Fraud/ Suppression? Because that is an acknowledged fact. That would make it seem like you were attempting to ... oh, I don't know...'willfuly overlook/justify' it.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/31/the_arizona_secretary_of_state_confirmed_election_fraud_occurred_in_the_states_primary/
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)I will ask again, what does this have to do with Hillary?
AzDar
(14,023 posts)involved. I only stated that there was NO legitimate winner... because there was fraud and suppression. So, maybe...like your chosen candidate. you should get your facts straight before you embarrass yourself, or have to walk shit back.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)There was a legitimate winner, she beat Sander's 57.6 to 39.9, in fact that was more like an embarrassment to your guy. Hillary 236,000 compared to Sander's 163,000, not even close. Your claims of fraud and suppression are typical speak for why Sander's lost. It's a grand theory considering it's one of the most conservative states in the nation, with only republicans elected statewide for some time.
She won, Sander's did not and attempting to call her win illegitimate because of voting issues is disingenuous. She won by 73,000 votes, no matter which way you dice it.
Firebrand out!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)to freshen up on apostrophe usage; misuse can make one look foolish.
Best of luck!
panader0
(25,816 posts)I live in Az.