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ProudToBeLiberal

(3,964 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 01:58 PM May 2016

Final Ad Spending in Indiana: Bernie- 1.6 million to Hillary- $0

Looks like Bernie is spending through his cash at a high burn rate. Hillary has clearly shifted her focus to the General Election and wisely saving up her cash. If Bernie doesn't win Indiana with a 15%+ margin it would be pretty embarrassing. He's outspending her in Indiana by huge amounts.


This is where I got the numbers from https://twitter.com/NYTnickc/status/727550090219556864

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Final Ad Spending in Indiana: Bernie- 1.6 million to Hillary- $0 (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 OP
Why spend money when the major networks give plenty of free ads? Ash_F May 2016 #1
Let me put on my tin foil hat ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #2
Awesome refutation! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #16
Thanks! I rediscovered the tinfoil hat emoticon. I should use it more. nt ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #19
Free ads? Meaning that HRC campaign ads are running on television for no cost? Buzz Clik May 2016 #3
The major networks have been ignoring/dismissive of the Sanders campaign since the beginning. Ash_F May 2016 #5
Your interpretation of balanced reporting is not the same as free advertising. Buzz Clik May 2016 #9
It's the same. People who watch tv are affected. Ash_F May 2016 #12
The impact is similar, but they aren't the same. Your claim is bullshit. Buzz Clik May 2016 #13
"Impact is similar" Ash_F May 2016 #15
You claimed free ads. There were not free ads. Your claim is bullshit. Buzz Clik May 2016 #17
What are you a lawyer? Ash_F May 2016 #18
No. Do you need to hire one? Buzz Clik May 2016 #20
Actually yes. But I need them to work pro bono. Ash_F May 2016 #22
hm. Buzz Clik May 2016 #23
why spend money when you magically beat exit polls in certain states by up to 16% GreatGazoo May 2016 #14
Magic! Buzz Clik May 2016 #24
Yeah because the MSM is on Hillary's side right? workinclasszero May 2016 #26
Spending at a rate of 1.6 million to 0 is not sustainable for any campaign. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #4
Spend my money Bernie! When-If You are out of race, my money stays in my wallet! Nanjeanne May 2016 #6
So, you aren't going to help with down ballot races? nt ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #7
Actually I do - I give money to progressives running in many races. But I Nanjeanne May 2016 #10
Thank you. You're are a good person. nt ProudToBeLiberal May 2016 #11
538 has her at a 91% chance of winning Indiana today Maru Kitteh May 2016 #8
Good. I wish he had enough small donations to do that in every state Tom Rinaldo May 2016 #21
Yep. He is enriching a lot of 1%ers on the backs of his supporters. The cruel irony of it all. Buzz Clik May 2016 #25
Weaver has already made the Sanders campaign a complete embarasment. NCTraveler May 2016 #27
I thought the FEC had a rule about "separate stashes" for primary vs GE? IdaBriggs May 2016 #28
Absolutely correct, even though that fact may not fit the OP's agenda Jim Lane May 2016 #30
I'm guessing that your figures exclude Clinton's SuperPAC spending. Jim Lane May 2016 #29
NO!! superpac supporting Hillary is spending money in the democratic primary against Sanders bigdarryl May 2016 #31
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. Free ads? Meaning that HRC campaign ads are running on television for no cost?
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:03 PM
May 2016

You will document that claim, right?

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
9. Your interpretation of balanced reporting is not the same as free advertising.
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

Please back up the claim of free ads.

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
10. Actually I do - I give money to progressives running in many races. But I
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

give money directly to candidates. I won't let DWS decide who gets my money. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
21. Good. I wish he had enough small donations to do that in every state
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

That Bernie actually became a significant challenger for the Democratic nomination for President was a wondrous thing and huge added bonus to this electoral season as far as I was always concerned. But when he first announced what pleased me most was knowing that Bernie would be traveling across this nation with his strong progressive message. Having Bernie be able to deliver his message on radio and TV into tens of millions of households - now including those in Indiana, to me is simply wonderful.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
27. Weaver has already made the Sanders campaign a complete embarasment.
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:39 PM
May 2016

Time for the only career politician running on the democratic side to drop out. Sanders and Weaver were hoping they could be a Trump but they simply ended up losing. Losing bad. Time to pack it in before Weaver, Sanders Cheney to Bush, opens his mouth again. They are literally attempting to subvert the will of the people. Extremely republican tactic.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
30. Absolutely correct, even though that fact may not fit the OP's agenda
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

The limit is $2,700 per election. A primary, a runoff, and a general election are separate elections. In the presidential race, the whole quest for the nomination is considered one election, with a cumulative limit of $2,700 -- i.e., a 1%er can't give $2,700 per state.

A notable comparison between the two Democratic campaigns is that Clinton has received a much higher percentage of her total contributions from donors who've maxed out. They can max out again for the general election (assuming that she declines the federal funding and the spending limits that come with it). If Lloyd Blankfein has given her $5,400, no, she can't save it all for the general election. His maximum contribution to her general-election fund is still $2,700 no matter how much she does or doesn't spend in May and June.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
29. I'm guessing that your figures exclude Clinton's SuperPAC spending.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

AFAIK, all of the Bernie ads are paid for by Bernie's campaign, with money subject to the normal limits. By contrast, Clinton supporters who've given the legal maximum to her campaign can then give huge additional amounts to her SuperPAC (or perhaps to one of her SuperPACs -- I think she has more than one).

Your link doesn't address this point. Given that Clinton has multimillion-dollar SuperPAC backing, it would be surprising to me if none of that money found its way into Indiana advertising.

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