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RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:47 PM May 2016

Obama knows not Bernie's positions

Obama is quoted "" ...there may be a couple issues where Bernie agrees with me more. I don’t know. I haven’t studied their positions that closely.""

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1884307

Wow!! The most politically connected Democrat - Obama - admits he has not studied Bernie's positions. Wow!!

More people on DU know more about Bernie than the president of the United States!! I guess Obama just decided that he only wants H to succeed him? Therefore why even get one of his aides to inform him about Bernie's positions?

Does Obama even care about the party's race?

All across this land, People are unaware of Bernie's positions, That's why so few votes are counted for him. These people are ignorant of Bernie's positions and Obama is their leader!!

Gawd damn we are screwed!!

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Obama knows not Bernie's positions (Original Post) RobertEarl May 2016 OP
I think Obama hates white America and wants to usher in Muslim Sharia law... Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #1
Oh bullshit RobertEarl May 2016 #4
There is no way on Earth anyone's as sarcasm challenged as sufrommich May 2016 #26
There is something nice about the sarcasm challenged. senz May 2016 #29
Yeah,I don't care how you feel about my sig line. nt sufrommich May 2016 #31
even as sarcasm it's disgusting AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #33
No shit...i come back from lunch to this nonsense? Thanks for the sanity Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #39
I'll bet there was a tried (and failed) alert on it,too. nt sufrommich May 2016 #42
Of course. The Obama hate is real and obvious. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #44
Is this type of poster this place allows? TimPlo May 2016 #14
This is the level of discourse you can expect to come from Hillary Supporter. frylock May 2016 #28
Bernie voter here. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #50
Yeah, seen this movie before. frylock May 2016 #55
... senz May 2016 #57
Bernie will have nothing to do with anyone who votes 3rd or sits out the election...trust me Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #59
Oh well. frylock May 2016 #75
All your comments knock Bernie and praise Hillary. senz May 2016 #56
NOt one comment of mine, NOT ONE, knocks Bernie...go ahead, find one Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #58
Been reading your stuff for months. senz May 2016 #64
Not one, so apologize for lying about me, please Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #65
Back off, Hill supporter. senz May 2016 #67
But you are now lying and it is clear for anyone and everyone to see. Is there no rules Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #68
Okay, bud, you're going on ignore. senz May 2016 #71
I can see why you would do that, you now realize you are lying, you are guilty of libel. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #72
LOL snooper2 May 2016 #46
lofl uponit7771 May 2016 #76
Maybe he was busy nt firebrand80 May 2016 #2
Sanders is the only career politician running on our side.,. NCTraveler May 2016 #3
Bernie is a statesman, a true people's advocate. senz May 2016 #38
I'm not buying it anymore. NCTraveler May 2016 #61
Buying it? You've been SELLING Hillary from the get-go. senz May 2016 #63
I wasn't just O'Malley for months, I was strong O'Malley. NCTraveler May 2016 #73
You used a teddy kennedy avatar and were solidly for Hill. senz May 2016 #74
He is the only public servant in the race. And your ageism is despicable!!! JudyM May 2016 #85
If only Sanders had the time to get his positions out to the public... brooklynite May 2016 #5
Or he could change his positions frequently like Hillary... Human101948 May 2016 #6
Maybe that doesn't bother voters...since she's winning brooklynite May 2016 #7
Then why are you acting like such a loser? Human101948 May 2016 #8
How is she winning? truedelphi May 2016 #30
Psst, here's a hint: comedy show ratings and bumper stickers don't translate into VOTES brooklynite May 2016 #62
Well la di dah dah. truedelphi May 2016 #84
And my candidate says a bit about what is happening: truedelphi May 2016 #88
Short campaign, MSM blackout, $27 donations, and yet ... senz May 2016 #51
Now you want to belittle Bernie tonyt53 May 2016 #9
Not belittling Bernie RobertEarl May 2016 #10
Bernie has been very busy in the House and Senate senz May 2016 #60
Well, he's missed a lot of work lately WhiteTara May 2016 #78
Not as much as Hill missed in 2008. senz May 2016 #79
Perhaps jehop61 May 2016 #11
So he doesnt appear ignorant? RobertEarl May 2016 #12
Bernie Sanders is not a "back bench senator." senz May 2016 #21
Oh for Pete's sake, Obama seems unaware of what he has said or truedelphi May 2016 #34
Three decades in Congress, and he hasn't made any headway on that? Seems pretty ineffectual to me. Squinch May 2016 #13
He's been quite effectual. senz May 2016 #18
The OP is all about how he's not, so.... Squinch May 2016 #20
THE OP IS ABOUT how Obama once again mentions his low information quota truedelphi May 2016 #40
I'm sure you are MUCH smarter than Obama! You could have done that job SOO much better! Squinch May 2016 #45
DON'T know about my smarts, but the people in Iceland sure got a handle on truedelphi May 2016 #66
Why so many attacks on Obama? scscholar May 2016 #15
Yep...7 years of carrying water for Wall Street demwing May 2016 #17
Great answer. Thank you! N/t truedelphi May 2016 #41
Robert, Obama was just trying to appear neutral there. senz May 2016 #16
That next President? "It's anyone's guess who she'll be!" Yep. He does know exactly what's going on. Squinch May 2016 #22
The White House correspondent's dinner is for JOKES. senz May 2016 #23
Gosh. And you would know! Squinch May 2016 #24
What is that supposed to be? A lame attempt at a putdown? senz May 2016 #27
He knows the PEOPLE involved. Bernie isn't well liked in Congress -- or by Obama, apparently. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #19
Bernie gets along fine with Dems and Repubs in congress senz May 2016 #25
He has fewer Senate endorsements than Ted Cruz. randome May 2016 #48
Establishment power and polticial hit lists work wonders for some. senz May 2016 #52
I'll take 'Stuff I Pulled Outta My Ass' for $400, Alex. frylock May 2016 #32
What is the problem with what Obama has to say about Sanders? Thinkingabout May 2016 #35
No problem whatsoever. Obama likes and respects Bernie Sanders. senz May 2016 #54
I can count the times our "most progressive President ever" pushed the Progressive Caucus Budget ... Scuba May 2016 #36
Hah! Dem2 May 2016 #37
Problem is, there is no "Sanders Foundation" that can offer Obama millions of dollars... tularetom May 2016 #43
Now Obama is a "low information voter"? Do you guys think he has Stockholm Syndrome too? nt LexVegas May 2016 #47
Obama is more concerned with what can be done with today's Congress, and he actually represents all Hoyt May 2016 #49
I'm sure he knows ... but Obama's too smart to publicly criticize Bernie ... NurseJackie May 2016 #53
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #70
Running against Obama ensures a Sanders loss. JoePhilly May 2016 #69
Read your own quote "I don’t know. I haven’t studied their positions that closely." awake May 2016 #77
Oh sure RobertEarl May 2016 #81
He was being diplomatic, and it flies over your head. bettyellen May 2016 #80
After all the excuses we have seen GulfCoast66 May 2016 #82
Just an oddity, really RobertEarl May 2016 #83
Maybe, but he is a very intellegent man. Also very curious. GulfCoast66 May 2016 #87
Well RobertEarl May 2016 #89
could not agree more amborin May 2016 #86
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
4. Oh bullshit
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

How dare you post such worthless crap. How dare you!!

Delete it and log out would be my advice. Your comments are not fit for DU.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
26. There is no way on Earth anyone's as sarcasm challenged as
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:58 PM
May 2016

your pretending to be with this post.


Nice try.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
29. There is something nice about the sarcasm challenged.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016

And now is as good a time as any to tell you that I find your sig line photo insulting to women.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
33. even as sarcasm it's disgusting
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

that post serves no function other than to lower the level of discourse

I have noticed a concerted and concentrated effort by diehard Hillary supporters to do everything they can to debase discussions, and I strongly doubt I am alone.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
14. Is this type of poster this place allows?
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:41 PM
May 2016

Posting something like this is usually what is seen on a Right Wing board. "I think Obama hates white America and wants to usher in Muslim Sharia law.."

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
56. All your comments knock Bernie and praise Hillary.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:42 PM
May 2016

But I love the duplicity. It validates my opinion of Hill and her supporters.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
65. Not one, so apologize for lying about me, please
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:05 PM
May 2016

Apologize to the liberal who supported Bernie before you probably knew who he was.

To the liberal that supports liberal causes and has for decades with words and money.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
68. But you are now lying and it is clear for anyone and everyone to see. Is there no rules
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

here about outright lying?

Anybody?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Sanders is the only career politician running on our side.,.
Tue May 3, 2016, 02:52 PM
May 2016

And that's how most people feel. Seventy something years old, in public service for decades, and is economics or bust. He is an "also ran."

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
38. Bernie is a statesman, a true people's advocate.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:14 PM
May 2016

This might be helpful for you. It's from earlier in his long career. Short, pleasant, and makes good points.


 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
61. I'm not buying it anymore.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

Weaver is getting the true Sanders to come out on a regular basis. We have seen instances of how shady he is willing to be throughout his career, but I put nothing past him at this point.

https://m.



 

senz

(11,945 posts)
63. Buying it? You've been SELLING Hillary from the get-go.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

What a dishonest thing to say.

It fits well with the absolute corruption of a certain candidate. You know, the one who's been dodging indictments forever?

Must make you proud.

As for your video, honest but tired people do sometimes lose their tempers. But he doesn't sic henchmen on hecklers like some candidates.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
73. I wasn't just O'Malley for months, I was strong O'Malley.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

I still think we missed out but I know he will have a major impact on the party moving forward. Sanders will be a Senator with few friends for a couple more years.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
74. You used a teddy kennedy avatar and were solidly for Hill.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

You always knocked Bernie just like you just did here.

Tells me so much about you.

brooklynite

(94,595 posts)
5. If only Sanders had the time to get his positions out to the public...
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:02 PM
May 2016

...maybe a year-long campaign?

...maybe he could just repeat the same speech over and over?

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
6. Or he could change his positions frequently like Hillary...
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

"Sorry about my remarks on coal!"

"Sorry about my remarks on AIDs!"

"Sorry about my support of anti LGBTQ measures."

"Oops, I didn't really mean to vote for IWR!"

"I didn't really mean they were super predators!"

et cetera

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
8. Then why are you acting like such a loser?
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

Be happy that your candidate is ahead and act like a winner.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
30. How is she winning?
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:02 PM
May 2016

Stephen Colbert, who we progressives used to think of as one of our own, can barely make it in the TV ratings game, now that he agrees with Hillary and Bill O'Reilly on so many positions.

A lot of us progressives are pulling the plug op his show, and he now tails behind Fallon And Kimmel.

I see car after car with Bernie stickers and nary a car with Clinton. All my girlfriends who used to support her four or five years ago detest her now and are firmly for Bernie.

And she cannot beat Trump in the General Election. It is a shame the DNC is so helpful to her in the dishonest tactics of her primary election game plays in state after state, but in fact, by popular vote, Bernie is above her.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
84. Well la di dah dah.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:39 PM
May 2016

Here is a recent article from Huff Post then:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tony-brasunas/only-voter-suppression-can-stop-bernie-sanders_b_9780128.html

And quite interesting to me that Hillary supporters refuse to acknowledge since their candidate cannot win the General Election, they are the ones that will bring Donald Trump into office.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
88. And my candidate says a bit about what is happening:
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

Sanders Statement on Indiana Primary Win

“I want to thank the people of Indiana for the great upset victory that they gave us tonight. This is the 18th state that we have won, and we expect more victories in the weeks to come.

“The Clinton campaign thinks this campaign is over. They’re wrong. Maybe it’s over for the insiders and the party establishment, but the voters in Indiana had a different idea. The campaign wasn’t over for them. It isn’t over for the voters in West Virginia. It isn’t over for Democrats in Oregon, New Jersey and Kentucky. It isn’t over for voters in California and all the other states with contests still to come.

“We understand that we have an uphill climb to victory but we have been fighting uphill from the first day of this campaign. We are in this campaign to win and we’re going to fight until the last vote is cast. There is nothing I would like more than to take on and defeat Donald Trump, someone who must never become president of this country.

“The voters in the remaining contests deserve a chance to compare my record and Hillary Clinton’s record on creating jobs, raising the minimum wage, war and peace, the need for health care for all, breaking up big banks, combating climate change and other critical issues. To help voters make the best-informed choice possible, I hope that Secretary Clinton will agree to a date and place for a debate in California.”

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
9. Now you want to belittle Bernie
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:10 PM
May 2016

The fact is, Bernie has had years to push his agenda, but has done nothing. He has zip to show for his time in the House and the Senate. Seems to me, and those that aren't naive, that maybe the issue is Bernie.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
10. Not belittling Bernie
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

I am belittling the establishment and ignorance. So it seems you may be in that group?

In the last year, Bernie has raised more money from more people than anybody ever has. These people are not ignorant because they know Bernie's positions, unlike Obama who is ignorant of Bernie's positions..

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
78. Well, he's missed a lot of work lately
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:13 PM
May 2016

because he's busy campaigning. So busy campaigning, he can't disclose his taxes or his financials to the FEC.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
79. Not as much as Hill missed in 2008.
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

Bernie does everything himself; he's not pampered, coiffed, waited upon and ushered about via private jet.

His financial affairs would be a real snooze fest next to Hill's fabulously expensive secret speeches.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
11. Perhaps
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

President Obama is busy running the country and trying to keep the world from blowing up? Why would he studying the musings of a back bench senator?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
12. So he doesnt appear ignorant?
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:33 PM
May 2016

I guess he just doesn't care? He has talked a lot about Trump, so he is up on things.

Maybe Bernie scares Obama? He probably should be scared of Bernie, every 1% should be.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
21. Bernie Sanders is not a "back bench senator."
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

Here is a partial list of his legislative accomplishments: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511841756

Here are his and Hill's Senate achievements compared: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511840648

Here is an overview of his lifetime work for civil rights: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511324268

Now you have no excuse left to make such ignorant remarks.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
34. Oh for Pete's sake, Obama seems unaware of what he has said or
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

Done. He has given one speech and said one thing and then six weeks later given a speech saying the exact opposite.

His wife promotes organic gardening on the White House Rose Garden, while he appoints Monsanto shills to high positions inside the FDA.

And he probably believes that the L shaped recovery that has been the scourge of the middle class is a good thing, as that would be what his real boss, Tim Geithner, tells him

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
40. THE OP IS ABOUT how Obama once again mentions his low information quota
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

Of a person or issue.

Sort of like that time in April 2009 when Obama came out and said he didn't understand the American economy. That remark was broadcast once and then, I guess one of his advisers thought it a bad idea for the President to brag about how little he knows about such an important matter.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
66. DON'T know about my smarts, but the people in Iceland sure got a handle on
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:15 PM
May 2016

What to do with the nonsense that they needed to atone for the Wall Street errors.

And their top bankers got put in jail, along with the Icelandic versions of the Geithner/Bernanke types.

Meanwhile most people here are unaware of the fact that the way the Economic Collapse was handled has cost each man, woman and child around $ 220,000 !!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
16. Robert, Obama was just trying to appear neutral there.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:43 PM
May 2016

He went on to list all of Bernie's major positions with clear jabs at Hillary in #4 and #6.

He knows exactly what's going on.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
22. That next President? "It's anyone's guess who she'll be!" Yep. He does know exactly what's going on.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
25. Bernie gets along fine with Dems and Repubs in congress
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

and he and Obama have campaigned for one another.

Bernie's an honest, straightforward guy whom people trust.

Ahem, not every candidate is as well-liked and trusted as Bernie.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
48. He has fewer Senate endorsements than Ted Cruz.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

Sure, he's a nice guy. So?
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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
35. What is the problem with what Obama has to say about Sanders?
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:08 PM
May 2016

Maybe Obama is not a study of the person who thought Obama should be primaried in 2012 and then said he should be the one to do this.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
36. I can count the times our "most progressive President ever" pushed the Progressive Caucus Budget ...
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:08 PM
May 2016

... on zero fingers.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
43. Problem is, there is no "Sanders Foundation" that can offer Obama millions of dollars...
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

...to travel the world and "fund raise" for it.

What you are viewing is a job interview.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
49. Obama is more concerned with what can be done with today's Congress, and he actually represents all
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

Americans, even the yahoos. He's familiar with Sanders' ideas, hell everyone is. Obama is just trying to look objective, and he still forgets that some of his critics are myopic and obtuse.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
53. I'm sure he knows ... but Obama's too smart to publicly criticize Bernie ...
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:36 PM
May 2016

... or to tell us what he really thinks about Bernie or Bernie's "plans". Obama knows how to be diplomatic and keep his cool, and not take the bait, and not inject himself where's he's not needed. (He's taking a pass without the need to spell it out and without blurting out an abrupt "no comment".)



All across this land, People are unaware of Bernie's positions, That's why so few votes are counted for him.
Sounds like Bernie's not doing a very good job when it comes to national politics. (Can you imagine how lost and vulnerable he'd be if he had to face a well-funded GOP attack machine?)

Gawd damn we are screwed!!
If by "we" you mean "Bernie" ... then you're correct.

awake

(3,226 posts)
77. Read your own quote "I don’t know. I haven’t studied their positions that closely."
Tue May 3, 2016, 06:54 PM
May 2016

He did not say it was just Bernie's issues he said "THEIR positions" so he is just not taking ether side. Nothing here to get worked up about, Obama does not have a dog in this fight thats all.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
81. Oh sure
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

He doesn't know anything about his former SoS's positions.

I guess he just care who the next president might be or their positions.

Obama is fooling someone, that's for sure.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
82. After all the excuses we have seen
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:16 PM
May 2016

I guess I should not be surprised that now the president is being blamed for not educating the voters about the greatness of Bernie.

But I must admit I am surprised. I never dreamed anyone would go here.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
83. Just an oddity, really
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:53 PM
May 2016

One might think that Obama would know more than he is letting on.

Then there is the fact that Bernie is not known well. That fact is enforced by Obama's statement that he doesn't know Bernie's positions. So it is no wonder then that Bernie hasn't swept the election, since so few even know his positions?

Many of those that do know Bernie, send Bernie money and vote for him. I wonder what Obama would do if he knew?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
87. Maybe, but he is a very intellegent man. Also very curious.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:49 PM
May 2016

So I can think of several other reasons he is not a Bernie Bro.

He thinks that as a sitting Democratic President he needs to remain as neutral as possible until after the primary is over.

He thinks Bernie has no platform. Just platitudes that accomplish nothing.

After spending 7 years fighting the good fight he knows that an ideologue is dangerous.

Since for the last 7 years he has had access to the most reliable security information, he now know that despite his belief that the US has caused serious harm to the world in the past decades, there really are nations and forces way more despicable than we are.

That at the end of the day that anytime the US has enacted major trade barriers the economy has tanked.

He knows that Clinton's negatives are on the table and she still looks like a winner. But after the Republicans and the press introduce Bernie, and his long history to the American people he will be toast.

That while the term Democratic Socialist does not scare folks like you and me, to many people in this country that word is still a poison pill. While the President, you and I would disagree he knows the electorate better than you. After all, he managed to get elected twice.


I am not all that smart and was able to come up with these possibilities. Of course, we will never know. You obviously like the President so want to come up with plausible reasons that he agrees with you but does not publicly express those feelings. You cannot discount the possibility that he is very well informed and thinks you are wrong.










 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
89. Well
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:06 AM
May 2016

Obama is a 1%er, so he isn't quite in touch with real people like Bernie is.

Obama is quoted as saying he doesn't know Bernie's positions. To me that means he doesn't care and is not willing to learn.

Obama will not have a great legacy as he has let so much slip by without concern. His greatest regret was getting drawn into Libya, and H did the dragging. The ME, while not as bad as it was after H voted to invade, is still a tangle of death and destruction with no end in sight.

Global warming, oil drilling and subsidies to big oil continue and there are now more poor and destitute folks. But hey, Obama's rich as heck!!

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