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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:57 PM May 2016

Former top McCain aide: I’ll vote for Clinton over Trump






A former top aide to Sen. John McCain says he will support Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump in November as both candidates appear close to locking down their parties’ nominations.

Mark Salter was for years McCain’s closest aide, serving as strategist, speechwriter, Senate chief of staff and biographer to the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. But now, Salter says he’ll break with the Republican Party if it nominates Trump and vote for Clinton instead.

“Basically, I think she’s the more conservative choice and the least reckless one,” Salter told MSNBC in an email. “[Trump’s] policy views are like some drunk’s rant. If he tried to do anything like he says he will, we’d have no allies, a lot more enemies, and more of them with nukes. Finally, he’s unfit for the office, too, temperamentally and morally, a narcissistic bigot.”

Salter is hardly alone among Republican operatives and policy hands expressing disgust with Trump.

But he may the highest profile one yet to say he’d support the likely Democratic nominee instead.


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/former-top-mccain-aide-ill-vote-clinton-over-trump



DSB's Notes - This is an infinitely more impressive endorsement than the Republican gentleman or lady some anonymous poster met at a Ralphs checkout line who said he or she is voting for Bernie.
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Former top McCain aide: I’ll vote for Clinton over Trump (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 OP
This is like the 40-something Republican Ive heard say the same thing. JaneyVee May 2016 #1
"Finally, he’s unfit for the office, too, temperamentally and morally, a narcissistic bigot.” Botany May 2016 #2
I suspect he reflects his boss' thinking DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #3
My thoughts on Trump .... he is an unqualified asshole Botany May 2016 #6
I once bought a book of Yiddish folk sayings. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #12
Donald trump is going to do much worse than john McCain.. dubyadiprecession May 2016 #4
I am betting on Texas going blue w/Trump Botany May 2016 #7
Of course they both want to "Bomb bomb bomb Iran" bahrbearian May 2016 #5
^^ this ^^ amborin May 2016 #24
If Hillary could only do as good with Progressives as she does with Republicans... Joe the Revelator May 2016 #8
It's worth pointing out that many brag about Sanders having crossover appeal. Garrett78 May 2016 #10
Bernie wins back blue collar votes, Clinton gets fellow neocon war mongers. n/t That Guy 888 May 2016 #26
She's fine with most most progressives. You mean the Hortensis May 2016 #11
Hillary and Bernie voted the same 93% of the time videohead5 May 2016 #28
Trump's behavior in the primaries was far from Presidential. moriah May 2016 #9
This from the guy who wrote McGrumpy's race baiting speeches? n/t hibbing May 2016 #13
I wouldn't vote for McCain if someone stuck a stick of dynamite in my rectum but when DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #14
The whole "Who is Barack Obama" hibbing May 2016 #15
I agree... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #17
Fair enough...peace to you hibbing May 2016 #19
You too...Have a great day. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #20
Basically, I think she’s the more conservative choice" bunnies May 2016 #16
Temperamentally she is more conservative. Trump is unbalanced. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #18
No way the military would go along with it, thankfully. bunnies May 2016 #21
A nuclear strike might be far fetched...What if he sent an expeditionary force? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #23
Honestly I'm expecting a new war regardless of who is elected. bunnies May 2016 #25
In a strict sense both democrats are more conservative La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #22
But Mexico will pay for the wall! k8conant May 2016 #27
DSB's notes are quite elitist in nature and pathetic. Live and Learn May 2016 #29
Nice ad hom DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #30
LOL lonestarnot May 2016 #31
at you DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #33
Whatever floats your boat. lonestarnot May 2016 #34
Okay. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #35
I think there is going to be a tsunami of Republicans who are going to dump Trump in Nov. DCBob May 2016 #32
Not surprised, after all it's hard to get motivated to vote for an asshole. nt cstanleytech May 2016 #36
I always thought the repukes walked in lock-step ailsagirl May 2016 #38
They largely do still march in lock step. cstanleytech May 2016 #39
I think it's because they're so good at creating their own reality ailsagirl May 2016 #40
Nuff said ailsagirl May 2016 #37
Sorry I would rather have the endorsement of the Republican in the Ralph's checkout line Bjorn Against May 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author basselope May 2016 #42
Another misrepresentation. basselope May 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #44
It's almost like the Palin thing, except this time the unqualified and crazy member of the ticket... NNadir May 2016 #45
I am disappointed he isn't repudiating Trump. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #46
The last time this kind of thing happened, it was Democrats for Nixon andym May 2016 #47
Nixon received 33% of the Democratic vote in 1972 DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #48
But of course... Ino May 2016 #49

Botany

(70,516 posts)
2. "Finally, he’s unfit for the office, too, temperamentally and morally, a narcissistic bigot.”
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:04 PM
May 2016

Please tell us how you really feel.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
6. My thoughts on Trump .... he is an unqualified asshole
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

unqualified (he is batshit crazy) ... how can you look in the mirror w/that hair and his raccoon eyes from his googles
that he wears tanning and walk away and say, "Now that is a good look."


asshole ... Trump made fun of a NY Times reporter because of his disease and how it made his arms look

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. I once bought a book of Yiddish folk sayings.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:35 PM
May 2016

There is a quote that says when you have a lot of money everybody says you are handsome and dance well...

Anybody else with his absurd comb over and spray on orange tan would be dismissed as absurd.

dubyadiprecession

(5,714 posts)
4. Donald trump is going to do much worse than john McCain..
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

Hell, If Hillary plays her cards right, she could win everything barack did plus Mississippi and Utah.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
7. I am betting on Texas going blue w/Trump
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

piss off both women and hispanics and Texas becomes a tough race to win

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. It's worth pointing out that many brag about Sanders having crossover appeal.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:20 PM
May 2016

Peeps can't have it both ways.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. She's fine with most most progressives. You mean the
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016
far left progressives. They're proving extreme in their degree of rejection of her, and I might add, in their rejection of all other progressives. Of course. As usual for extremists, whether the far left or Tea Party, their way or no way.

videohead5

(2,177 posts)
28. Hillary and Bernie voted the same 93% of the time
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:21 AM
May 2016

When they were in the Senate together.no Republican even came close..she is still a progressive.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
9. Trump's behavior in the primaries was far from Presidential.
Tue May 3, 2016, 05:19 PM
May 2016

Even the IBTimes warn that while Trump is promising everyone a tax break, he can't bankrupt the country like he has his companies.

Republicans succeeded with one celebrity before, but Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan. And if Hillary doesn't use that line against him should he invoke Reagan during the debates, Ill eat my hat.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. I wouldn't vote for McCain if someone stuck a stick of dynamite in my rectum but when
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

I wouldn't vote for McCain if someone stuck a stick of dynamite in my rectum but when did he make a race baiting speech:








hibbing

(10,098 posts)
15. The whole "Who is Barack Obama"
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:31 PM
May 2016

Statements like that and others that were meant to make him seem like he's not American. Could be my interpretation, and I have seen the video you posted before. However, it also says a lot where a supporter in his crowd would say that. Also, remember the video of the smarmy guy walking around with a stuffed monkey at one of McCain's rallies?

Peace

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. I agree...
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

He attracted racist yahoos because he was running against a black guy but when they made racist remarks he invariably called them out.

Also, when Sarah Palin wanted to go nativist on Barack Obama and attack him for his association with Reverend Wright John McCain stopped her.

I don't like his politics, one little bit, but he has always kept his difference with the president political.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. Temperamentally she is more conservative. Trump is unbalanced.
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

I can't imagine him having access to the nuclear codes. He could drop the big one on Mexico. Just no.


 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
21. No way the military would go along with it, thankfully.
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:44 PM
May 2016

Trump would be the most impotent POTUS ever. *cringe*

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
22. In a strict sense both democrats are more conservative
Wed May 4, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

About public spending than trump and his wall. Also about balancing budgets.

Trump wants this super expensive wall plus huge tax breaks

Also if conservative mean not making sudden radical change, hrc is articulating a vision of building on obama's achievements rather than creating a new system

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
29. DSB's notes are quite elitist in nature and pathetic.
Thu May 5, 2016, 04:30 AM
May 2016

Something one would expect to find written on a napkin at McDonalds or some other fast food restaurant and left with the assorted other trash on the table.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
30. Nice ad hom
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:56 AM
May 2016
DSB's notes are quite elitist in nature and pathetic.

Something one would expect to find written on a napkin at McDonalds or some other fast food restaurant and left with the assorted other trash on the table.



Nice ad hom

I have been insulted by better men. As to your cryptic allusion to McDonalds what happens when the dog catches the bus?

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
38. I always thought the repukes walked in lock-step
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

I am quite frankly surprised that there is such a hue and cry from repukes (nearly all) re DRUMPF

I would have thought they'd support anyone who ran on their ticket.

Wow, so they really have limits?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
39. They largely do still march in lock step.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:44 PM
May 2016

What I dont understand though is how they can pretend with a straight face to be shocked that someone like Trump won the nomination considering it was bound to happen eventually when you think about the voters they have largely been courting and relying on as their base.

ailsagirl

(22,897 posts)
40. I think it's because they're so good at creating their own reality
Thu May 5, 2016, 09:15 PM
May 2016

This debacle has been coming for some time but the repukes just ignored it. I'm surprised, frankly, it's taken this long for their party to implode-- and I can't think of any other word to describe it.

People have been saying for years the repugs are overextending themselves-- and they ignored the danger signs (because their belief is, if you ignore something, it can't affect you). Just my guess, but it's difficult to know what really goes on in their shrunken little brains.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
41. Sorry I would rather have the endorsement of the Republican in the Ralph's checkout line
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

The Republican in the Ralph's checkout line may have voted for some bad politicians, but they don't have any real power and are relatively harmless.

A Republican who is a top advisor to a powerful US Senator has his hands near the levers of power and he is not harmless, he is among the group of people who have been destroying this country.

You may be more impressed by a person who has done real harm to this country, I am more impressed by the common citizen in the checkout lane.

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NNadir

(33,525 posts)
45. It's almost like the Palin thing, except this time the unqualified and crazy member of the ticket...
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

...at the top.

Many people voted for Obama who otherwise might have voted for McCain because they were terrified at the possibility that McCain would die in office.

I would personally love it if McCain died (metaphorically) at the polls in the 2016 Arizona Senate election. This seems possible, since his Democratic Opponent is working hard - quite wisely - to place the Trump albatross around his neck.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
46. I am disappointed he isn't repudiating Trump.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:51 PM
May 2016

He should not run for re-election and campaign against Trump. Why does he need the job? To some he is a hero. He could become an historical figure of he repudiated Trump.

andym

(5,444 posts)
47. The last time this kind of thing happened, it was Democrats for Nixon
Sun May 8, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

So many conservative and moderate Democrats despised McGovern's progressive pro-peace platform in 1972, that many in the party turned their back on him and declared for Nixon. Why? They didn't want McGovern to define the party, just as the GOPers don't want Trump to redefine their party.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
49. But of course...
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:11 PM
May 2016

Hillary is the best Republican on either ticket. That you would call this an "impressive endorsement" is unreal, right up there with lauding Kissinger's Hillary-love.

And yet Bernie supporters are called not "real" Democrats

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