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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:18 PM May 2016

If Clinton Wins, She Plans To Put Bill To Work on Trade: “He’s Gotta Be In Charge Of This”

http://trofire.com/2016/05/03/clinton-wins-plans-put-bill-work-hes-gotta-charge/

If Clinton Wins, She Plans To Put Bill To Work on Trade: “He’s Gotta Be In Charge Of This”
May 3, 2016
Video at link~


During a campaign event this week, presidential candidate Hillary Clinton capitalized on the nostalgic popularity of Bill Clinton when she told a room full of supporters that she plans to put Bill to work because he has so many “good ideas.”

Clinton was talking extensively about trade, an issue that she has gotten a fair amount of push-back on from opponent Bernie Sanders. While Sanders opposes the Trans-Pacific partnership and rails against NAFTA, Clinton has always supported these trade deals.

But just because you feel Clinton has bad judgement on trade doesn’t mean that she can’t put someone even worse behind that wheel. Clinton said that when it comes to trade, a President Hillary Clinton would call on the first husband to broker deals and “be in charge.”

“I told my husband he’s gotta come out of retirement and be in charge of this.”


To many who are critical of Bill Clinton’s trade policy during his time as president in the 90’s, saying Clinton would put her husband in charge of trade is akin to putting him in charge of the White House interns: Just a bad idea.
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If Clinton Wins, She Plans To Put Bill To Work on Trade: “He’s Gotta Be In Charge Of This” (Original Post) babylonsister May 2016 OP
Oh, great. NAFTA was such a stunning success, after all... The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #1
Read: Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine to learn more jwirr May 2016 #14
The globalization of US workplaces was planned 20 years ago Baobab May 2016 #43
I've read it. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #48
They want to chop the wages of US workers way down Baobab May 2016 #17
Oh shit, seriously. Fuck me and everyone else living here. nt nc4bo May 2016 #2
We're being accused of denying the developing world the market access they were promised 20 years ag Baobab May 2016 #45
Bill sucked in that area back _before_ he started obviously losing it. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #3
This is a perfect example of why madokie May 2016 #24
they are doing that because they have created an absolute monster that literally nobody understands- Baobab May 2016 #47
Well ain't that just fucking grand. bunnies May 2016 #4
She really is making it difficult to vote for her madokie May 2016 #25
At this point... bunnies May 2016 #30
:/ Go Vols May 2016 #5
Please tell me this is The Onion. CrispyQ May 2016 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #29
This is a joke, right? yodermon May 2016 #7
Kill me now... Blue_In_AK May 2016 #8
Surefire way to lose. Living in a past that in reflection isn't all it was crackered up to be. highprincipleswork May 2016 #9
Many people are working to prevent just that. frylock May 2016 #10
Good Lord. Kall May 2016 #11
If this doesn't terrify every conscious voter FlatBaroque May 2016 #12
GATS already destroyed the middle class once. Baobab May 2016 #38
Oh God paulthompson May 2016 #13
I think he said he'd leave it to the experts to decide. CrispyQ May 2016 #15
thank goodness. i was worried it would not be in good hands restorefreedom May 2016 #16
is this an Onion wanna be publication? 2banon May 2016 #18
She's right there on video saying it. Sometimes reality is more stupid than satire. arcane1 May 2016 #34
What an idiotic plan. Has she forgotten about NAFTA? cui bono May 2016 #19
BOHICA. nt antigop May 2016 #20
Oligarchic Dynasty kenn3d May 2016 #21
omg... we'd be so screwed. dana_b May 2016 #22
Can she really be that tone deaf? Nanjeanne May 2016 #23
I think it's arrogance as much as being tone deaf cali May 2016 #26
So, he gets to tinker with his toy? Nah, I'll pass. nt silvershadow May 2016 #27
And here we go mindem May 2016 #28
“I told my husband he’s gotta come out of retirement and be in charge of this.” tularetom May 2016 #31
Which is one of the reasons I still think she had her private server in their home. nt. polly7 May 2016 #37
Bill Clinton's third term. CrispyQ May 2016 #49
At least she can no longer pretend Bill's ideas and history are irrelevant and immune from critics. arcane1 May 2016 #32
Jesus Christ... How can ANYONE support this?? AzDar May 2016 #33
Nah, it couldn't be they said. TM99 May 2016 #35
No. Way. riderinthestorm May 2016 #36
fuck that shit elehhhhna May 2016 #39
"Bill isn't running" the Hill-people assured me. "She'll be president!" IdaBriggs May 2016 #40
Kudos to her for telling the truth. Jester Messiah May 2016 #41
I can't believe their going to bring back two-fer thinking. HereSince1628 May 2016 #42
Dude looks like he's circling the drain. He'll get taken advantage of at every turn. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #44
And Trump had the biggest applause tonight sadoldgirl May 2016 #46
Hillary will probably outsource U.S. trade policy to Bill at the Clinton Foundation BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #50
So much for Hillary's lying about not being all in for trade deals. BillZBubb May 2016 #51
It's all following the script so perfectly, it's mind blowing isn't it? bjo59 May 2016 #52
Bill in Charge of Trade? pmorlan1 May 2016 #53
And Kissinger as Secretary of State! Karmadillo May 2016 #54
Just a bit of an article I was reading to kick up your thread. polly7 May 2016 #55
Oh fuck. Arugula Latte May 2016 #56

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
1. Oh, great. NAFTA was such a stunning success, after all...
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

Maybe he should just be kept busy as the ticket-taker at the Lincoln Bedroom.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
45. We're being accused of denying the developing world the market access they were promised 20 years ag
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:44 PM
May 2016

You should look up the phrase progressive liberalisation - it means one way privatization and globalization - opening the procurement of services to staff the former public sector to firms from all the other members of the trading bloc (Edit: Trading bloc, not trading blog, sorry) involved, there may be overlaps.


All they have to do is be the winning lowest qualified bidders.

Instead of carve outs for minority or women owned businesses we will have carve outs for businesses from least developed countries. Poor countries.




http://www.ictsd.org/downloads/2008/06/dom_reg.pdf

http://www.southcentre.int/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/AN_SV11_The-Development-Dimension-of-the-GATS-Domestic-Regulations_EN.pdf

http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/early/2005/01/25/hlthaff.w5.42.full.pdf

http://www.ciel.org/Publications/PublicServicesScope.pdf
 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
3. Bill sucked in that area back _before_ he started obviously losing it.
Tue May 3, 2016, 07:26 PM
May 2016

Now? A disaster in the making. If Hillary ends up President, Bill is going to be an epic embarrassment.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. This is a perfect example of why
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:45 PM
May 2016

Hillary will never be elected President.
The big dog fucked us on trade like we'd never been fucked before and now she wants to put him in charge of new trade treaties. The heck with her and the bankers horse she rode in on.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
47. they are doing that because they have created an absolute monster that literally nobody understands-
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

in the effort to hide it from us, they made it all SO complicated that literally almost nobody except them understands what the f*** they have promised everybody.

its a really horrible situation we're going to get with Hillry and GA7S. Look at what happened to Slovakia with single payer.

Even revolutions and countries splitting up into smaller (or larger) pieces and the smaller pieces being dissolved don't discharge these obligations.

These trade deals mean business. presidents/legisation cant touch them.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
30. At this point...
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

I'd rather eat glass.

I turned 18 in 1991. I voted for MTv sax playing Clinton. Fools like I was gave the rise to the third way. I had it all wrong.

Response to CrispyQ (Reply #6)

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
18. is this an Onion wanna be publication?
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:25 PM
May 2016

Cuz if it ain't.. or put it another way, if she actually said that,

I want to THANK HRC for this most amazing WONDROUS GifT .. as it will or should be THE BEST opposition campaign talking point EVER..

Send it to BERNIE pronto! California peeps not too fond of NAFTA or TPP.

Yes Big Ag LOVED NAFTA and Tech businesses, yes, but workers?

umm, not so much.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
34. She's right there on video saying it. Sometimes reality is more stupid than satire.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:03 PM
May 2016

This is definitely one of those times.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
19. What an idiotic plan. Has she forgotten about NAFTA?
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:26 PM
May 2016


If she wins we are in for some hard times. She and Bill will push the TPP and we've seen those leaked documents of the sister trade contract.

We cannot survive this.

.

kenn3d

(486 posts)
21. Oligarchic Dynasty
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016

The country did not like Hillary being co-President. The country would not like a Clinton dual-Presidency.
What's next... Chelsea as Secretary of Hedge-Funds?

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
22. omg... we'd be so screwed.
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:36 PM
May 2016

No, no and NO!! Forget her promises of $15/hr., any union support, any chance for getting rid of the H1B visas... we would go backwards again.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
31. “I told my husband he’s gotta come out of retirement and be in charge of this.”
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:56 PM
May 2016

I think what she actually means is, he told her that was what he was going to do.

Probably because he didn't trust her not to fuck it up.

In case you wondered who was really gonna be "in charge" in a Clinton administration. She's a puppet, Billy Bob is still pulling the strings.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
49. Bill Clinton's third term.
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

This pretty much seals it for me. No vote for HRC. Guess I'll be spending a lot of time in the Fiction & Photography forums.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
32. At least she can no longer pretend Bill's ideas and history are irrelevant and immune from critics.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016

This was a stupid, desperate move by Hillary.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
35. Nah, it couldn't be they said.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:03 PM
May 2016

Hillary is her own person. Bill is just along for the ride. He will pour tea and hand out flowers to foreign dignitaries.

Bullshit, it always been about both of them and their insane lusts for power, influence, and control (oh, and don't forget the Benjamins!)

Hell I trust Bill more with the interns these days with his heart problems than I do with fucking trade policy.

Yay, we get to continue the disastrous outsourcing 1990's with Bill back in charge.

Good, I get to not vote again for Bill.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
40. "Bill isn't running" the Hill-people assured me. "She'll be president!"
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:21 PM
May 2016

Saw this coming. Worst. Candidate. Ever.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
44. Dude looks like he's circling the drain. He'll get taken advantage of at every turn.
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:38 PM
May 2016

Which means WE'LL be taken advantage of.

Two for one? NOPE.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
46. And Trump had the biggest applause tonight
Tue May 3, 2016, 10:51 PM
May 2016

for his condemnation of Nafta and Gatt.
Bernie is against those agreements and the
blue collar repugs are against them:

When will the establishment ever learn?

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
50. Hillary will probably outsource U.S. trade policy to Bill at the Clinton Foundation
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:41 AM
May 2016

The Clinton Foundation will broker international deals for an upfront commission and trailing commissions on all trade under the agreements. If you're a sleazy operator who doesn't care about labor or environmental standards or a third world dictator looking to cash on the natural resources of your country and park the proceeds in a tax haven, call Bill and he will match you up with somebody on the other side of the trade.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
51. So much for Hillary's lying about not being all in for trade deals.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:50 AM
May 2016

Bernie needs to go after her on this. She's tacking back to her usual right wing positions even before the primaries are over.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
53. Bill in Charge of Trade?
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:36 AM
May 2016

Now I have yet another reason I will not vote for Hillary, as if I needed another one.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
55. Just a bit of an article I was reading to kick up your thread.
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:39 AM
May 2016

The Clintonian era which began under Bill Clinton in the 1990s was marked by the Democratic Party’s open advocacy and implementation of neoliberalism, as a continuation of the “trickle down” ideas of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. The Clinton administration passed devastating policies like NAFTA, with its brutal effects on workers and the environment; the 1994 crime bill with its dramatic expansion of incarceration; and the destruction of welfare with its inhuman effects on the poor and particularly single mothers. Such laws were part of an overall agenda of attacks on social services and on the interests of the working class and people of color. Bill and Hillary Clinton were political partners in that process, as they are political partners in Hillary’s election campaign today.

As a U.S. Senator, Clinton voted for the Iraq War, the Patriot Act, the Patriot Act re-authorization, for new “free trade” deals (including the 2008 Panama agreement which helped perfect it as a tax haven), for bank deregulation, the Wall Street bailouts (TARP), the 2006 border fence legislation, and the list goes on. As Secretary of State she was perhaps the administration’s most aggressive proponent for interventions in Libya and Syria that fueled the humanitarian crisis in the region. She acted as a global spokesperson for fracking, and in spite of considerable pressure from Sanders has not backed down from this environmentally devastating practice.

Hillary won the admiration of Bloomberg Businessweek for her corporate advocacy as Secretary, noting that “Clinton turned the State Department into a machine for promoting U.S. business,” and sought “to install herself as the government’s highest-ranking business lobbyist.”

How can anyone seriously argue that we can continue our political revolution by supporting one of the highest profile opponents of that revolution, who has essentially vowed that the things we’re fighting for will “never ever happen”? Hillary Clinton’s actual policies will not be rooted in whatever platform is passed at the convention, but will be based instead on her own neoliberal politics and on the influence of Wall Street and the billionaire class that have funded her campaign. In fact, the Clinton camp has already responded to Sanders, rejecting attempts to push Hillary to the left.

https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/its-not-about-bernie-why-we-cant-let-our-revolution-die-in-philadelphia/

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
56. Oh fuck.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

He's not done screwing us over yet!



Can we take up a collection and ship him off to explore trading with Mars or something?

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