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applegrove

(118,703 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:04 PM May 2016

What Happens When You Elect Women, According To Science

What Happens When You Elect Women, According To Science

by Laurel Raymond at Think Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/29/3772383/science-of-why-electing-women-matters/

"SNIP.............



Having examples of female success can also elevate how women think about themselves. Indeed, role models of the same gender are more important for women than men, according to research published in Psychology of Women Quarterly — perhaps because both men and women grow up surrounded by images of male success.

Male and female students at the University of Toronto were given pamphlets describing outstanding achievements of men and women in their chosen fields, then completed a questionnaire about themselves. After women read about a female role model with a similar career path, they rated themselves more positively than they did after reading about a man. For the male students there was no difference between those that read about a male or female role model.

A lack of female powerful role models leads to a vicious circle

A separate study, published in the Journal of Experimental Psychology, showed that when women are exposed to female role models, they actually perform better.

In the experiment, male and female students were tasked with giving a public speech. The back wall of the room was either blank or had a picture of Hillary Clinton, Angela Merkel, or Bill Clinton. Women who were exposed to the picture of either Hillary Clinton or Angela Merkel spoke longer, were rated as being better speakers by others, and rated themselves as having spoken better. Male participants performed equally well regardless of what was on the back wall.



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What Happens When You Elect Women, According To Science (Original Post) applegrove May 2016 OP
Too bad Warren did not run Ash_F May 2016 #1
I respect and love women. But I'm not going to vote for a President so that women can feel better highprincipleswork May 2016 #2
Love this Applegrove- thank you! bettyellen May 2016 #3
I sincerely doubt this held TM99 May 2016 #4
Has India become a Utopia after Indira? artislife May 2016 #13
Yuppers! TM99 May 2016 #20
And to think, we coulda had an example-settin', barrier-breakin' woman a heartbeat away Warren DeMontague May 2016 #5
Thanks for sharing. NCTraveler May 2016 #6
Is this that "woman card" Trump talked about? pdsimdars May 2016 #7
That argument boils down to "you don't really know what you are doing when you vote for her." Squinch May 2016 #8
Don't bother-- you called them out on their fuckery and now they're gonna play the VulgarPoet May 2016 #11
Yes, but I like to put the mirror right up to their face just to remind them what they are really pdsimdars May 2016 #17
I don't want men or women to view supporting war Eric J in MN May 2016 #9
Let's think this through Redness May 2016 #10
They attack the Falkland Islands? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #12
Malvinas to some....nt artislife May 2016 #14
All women are the same. Didn't you get the memo? vintx May 2016 #15
We all want a woman president. Just not one who's a corporatist hawk. JudyM May 2016 #16
I'm a woman who wants a woman president...Elizabeth Warren. Arugula Latte May 2016 #18
HRC is the worst choice IMHO farleftlib May 2016 #19
K & R Scurrilous May 2016 #21
We need Hillary. She will be a fantastic AND revolutionary president. nt BreakfastClub May 2016 #22
So in summation you are voting for Hillary because she is Woman. We already knew that. quantumjunkie May 2016 #23
 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
2. I respect and love women. But I'm not going to vote for a President so that women can feel better
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

about themselves.

Be glad about this as a byproduct, yes, but not as a determining factor.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
4. I sincerely doubt this held
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

true in England after Margaret Thatcher. In fact, I remember as many young women grave-dancing when she died as did young men.

Too bad, a powerful and honest woman with integrity is not running this election season.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
13. Has India become a Utopia after Indira?
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

And Israel after Golda? Certainly Benizar made her country, Pakistan, a rival of Sweden in its equality and quality of life of women....



FAIL.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. And to think, we coulda had an example-settin', barrier-breakin' woman a heartbeat away
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

from the highest office in the land for the past 7 years, already.

Heavy sigh.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. Thanks for sharing.
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

I'm now off to go read some more of the links that are in there. I read one and it very interesting.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
7. Is this that "woman card" Trump talked about?
Tue May 3, 2016, 08:32 PM
May 2016

I mean, you may disagree with all of her issues but, heck, she's a woman, so better elect her.

THIS IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT, NOT GENDER





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Squinch

(50,956 posts)
8. That argument boils down to "you don't really know what you are doing when you vote for her."
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

That worked SOOOOOOO well for you guys when you called AA voters uninformed. I see you are doubling down on your winning strategy.


VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
11. Don't bother-- you called them out on their fuckery and now they're gonna play the
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

"oh you're just calling us uninformed" defense. They know perfectly well what they support. They just don't give a damn.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
17. Yes, but I like to put the mirror right up to their face just to remind them what they are really
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016

supporting and voting for. Someone with no real progressive values. That's who they want.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
9. I don't want men or women to view supporting war
Tue May 3, 2016, 09:10 PM
May 2016

...as their path to success.

One of the reasons I voted for Obama in the 2008 MN Caucus was that I wanted him to be rewarded for opposing the Iraq War so that other politicians would view opposing war as a path to success.

Redness

(18 posts)
10. Let's think this through
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

Presumably this study wasn't conducted in the future? Then it's evidently unnecessary for Hill to be president for her hypnotic gaze to inspire long-winded speech and unearned self-esteem. Perhaps being a Walmart board member is sufficient. Or first lady (is Bernie gay?). Or Secretary of State (is Bernie committed to an all-male cabinet?).

Indeed, the article's central thesis, that males don't need role models because there are already enough of them, cuts both ways. There does in general appear to be sharply diminishing marginal utility to role models, such that one female example, even if she wasn't even American (Merkel), was sufficient to completely close the gender gap.

So the sane course of action, even if we agree that females have too little self-esteem (as opposed to, say, males having too much), would appear to be to do on a larger scale exactly what was done in the studies: highlight female accomplishments, in which supply is inexhaustible, no matter who is president.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
15. All women are the same. Didn't you get the memo?
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:31 AM
May 2016

Calling Hillary 'Constitutional restrictions on abortion are ok by me!' Clinton a feminist is an insult to feminists

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
16. We all want a woman president. Just not one who's a corporatist hawk.
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:32 AM
May 2016

It would do more harm to young women than good, in the long run, when her entire presidency is one scandal after another, mostly that she has brought on herself by abysmal judgment and poor ethics.

A legitimately disgraced woman president is not helpful. And with Clinton IMO it is highly likely.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
18. I'm a woman who wants a woman president...Elizabeth Warren.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

Hillary is a terrible choice on so many levels.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
19. HRC is the worst choice IMHO
Wed May 4, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

She rode in on Bill's coattails and has been a nightmare as SoS. She is also a criminal
and a perjurer. I agree that Liz Warren is the kind of woman we need in high office.
HRC is merely out to enrich herself and her corporate buddies at the expense of all
of us.

 

quantumjunkie

(244 posts)
23. So in summation you are voting for Hillary because she is Woman. We already knew that.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:34 AM
May 2016

Ok, yes we Bernie supporters already knew Hillary supporters were only voting for Hillary because she is a woman. Which, disappointingly, explains why all of you have a blind eye on her record, but i do understand how this will have a positive effect for women. Intriguingly, it seems to have a bigger impact for older women than young. Hillary isn't quite the role model you want to have the next generation of women replicating, but i understand the bigger message.

Hey i want a woman president too but its a real shame it had to be Hillary. Elizabeth Warren would have been the ideal first woman president because let's keep it real, there are only a handful of real democrats that actually give a damn about the people: Warren, Sanders, Grayson, and a few others. Warren would have overwhelmingly united Bernie's progressives, and Hillary's center-right style older democrat supporters.

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