2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary needs to offer Bernie the VP.
Van Jones said something important on CNN. In 2008 the insurgent outsider candidate "Obama" won that contest so the establishment "Hillary" supporters had to come alone. Now its the establishment candidate that is going to win, but its going to be harder for the supporters of the insurgent candidate to come over because they aren't necessary loyal to the party like the establishment.
Do the smart thing Hillary for the good of the Country.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)desmiller
(747 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Why? She won! She does better under pressure. Trump is toast.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)put a user on ignore AND trash a thread. I wonder what will happen. My final report will likely not be on this thread.
MADem
(135,425 posts)ticket.
You need balance, with someone on the south side of sixty (in this case, the VP--in Barack's case, the POTUS).
He'll be lucky if he gets a prime-time speaking slot at the Convention, given some of his comments during this campaign--and the remarks of his surrogates.
If he settles down and helps rally his base after he concedes, and helps with the downticket. he might get Secretary of Labor if he wants it.
Otherwise, he can go back to VT and get ready for what might be a contested election in 2018.
Hey, he's the guy who likes incumbents to be primaried--maybe he should "feel the Bern?"
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)I thought my comments were clear. I can't understand why you don't comprehend them. I didn't use any fancy language or oblique terms.
I can only conclude that you're being prickly--not sure why. There's no need. It won't change anything and it won't get me riled.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Try writing it without the animosity and you might make more sense.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I think the one packing the "animosity" here is YOU.
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Try writing it without the animosity and you might make more sense.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)I never want to see that fucker on my TV screen again. Crawl back into the hole you came out of Sanders.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Sanders has higher standards than that.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Seriously.
That won't help. At all.
It's so absurd that I don't think either Sanders or Clinton would entertain the idea.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm afraid. No two candidates in a primary has been further apart than these two. If it wasn't for shenanigans and outright bullshit she'd not be where she is in this race right now. And if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)she will not offer
he will not accept
You know this. Bad fit. clinton needs obedience. Sanders wants to organize a movement.
MFM008
(19,818 posts)I think it's stupid because all this does is assure Frankenstein Sanders lives to die another day. He's not a good GE candidate AND he's ancient. All this does is prolong his delusions.
And could we retire the "establishment" vs. "outsider" labels, please?
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Two old, white Northeast DEMs on the same ticket? No way.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)And it would accomplish nothing except the delicious irony of watching Bernie being thrown under his own bus.
Really a stupid, stupid idea.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Hillary probably sees him as a bit of a noodge, I doubt she'd want him as VP.
agracie
(950 posts)The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)He's a nutjob and subject to brutal attacks. Clinton does not need such an anchor on the ticket. She should consider Warren, Biden, O'Malley, Gore, or any number of others. Sanders should remain in the Senate where he is harmless.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Hillary should retire and no one in that family should ever run for public office again.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,748 posts)But he won't be asked anyhow. Hillary will choose another corporate tool who won't rock the boat.
sister_rosa_refried
(447 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)for a VP candidate.
Joob
(1,065 posts)And it's usually the wrong say and only after she tried sshe corrects it for whatever reason ( cough popular opinion)
Grown2Hate
(2,013 posts)A) Assuming HRC wins the nomination, that would only further weaken us in the Senate.
B) It's not strategic enough, electoral college-wise.
C) He would NEVER agree to be on that ticket.
D) ... I don't know, I can't remember... ("Oops." - Rick Perry-style). I seriously had a D... and I'd promised no more drunk posting.
E) OOH! ... Aww, shit... I thought I had it again...
F) OH, right, I got it. Bernie is too smart. He'd see it as a ploy to prevent a contested/brokered convention, and essentially, as a way to dilute his message.
G) Off topic: I fucking LOVE that Cruz picked a VICE PRESIDENT and less than a week later, he's dropping out. Carly ran that shit into the ground faster than HP. ::rimshot::
Buzz cook
(2,472 posts)if he accepted a position with Clinton. Others have said they'd throw Sanders under the bus if he merely asked his supporters to vote for Clinton.
If that's the case Bernie ads no value to the ticket.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)She'll choose someone younger and from a diverse state.
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)That is all