And he lost

It is over.

Sid

The primary may not be officially over, but the winner has already been determined.

Sid

We already knew that, but it's nice to hear it from you.

Meanwhile, the number of Independents and Republicans who already see the Republican Party destroyed by Drumpf's certain nomination will be more inclined to vote for Bernie Sanders.

Sort of the same reasoning.

And like Suri says when you're made at her and call her a dumb ass, "That's a matter of opinion!"

Have always liked you as a poster at DU.

I should stay away from "before going to work" posts!

But thanks for the thread kick, Sid. As always, you're laughing stature is always there rolling on the floor.

Clear and true.

You can't determine the outcome based on polls today.

Trump will have SIX months to make stupid remarks. His stupidity will unite the Hillary and Bernie people.

Any Democrat who doesn't vote and risks getting Trump as president is an egotistical idiot.

Lets remember 2000. The people who voted for Nader. What we got was 8 years of Bush, a war in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of people killed and a tanked economy. With Trump it could be worse.

the entire establishment has not been able to marginalize Bernie.

They will never vote for a democrat in the general.

Trump got as many votes as Bernie and Hillary combined. Cruz got more votes than either Bernie or Hillary.

Twice as many people voted republican.

Bernie gained SIX delegates.

This is not a game changer!

Clinton winning predominantly red southern states bodes ill for the general?

Thanks for the thread, imagine2015.

I got my very first call from the Sanders campaign tonight to make sure I got my ballot and filled it out and sent it in. All votes in Oregon are mail-in. No long lines, no harassment. It's like the government of Oregon actually want people to vote.

The idea, widely discussed on TV tonight, is that the campaign is over. Blah, blah blah.....

I'm delighted the Bernie believes it's not over because the people in Oregon and the other states want a chance to vote. No, we DEMAND the chance to vote.

BTW - I've seen a lot of campaigns come and go over the years. I can never remember any primary election, for President or for any other office, where the "guaranteed" winner has lost a subsequent primary election after their victory was "guaranteed". Never. We all know it's over when the folks that come in second run out of money, lose all their momentum, fade into the background, etc, etc. That is not happening.

I don't think it's over. Not yet.

is keeping it close enough- and it is beyond that with all the arguments stated above. Only if the GOP was to actually split would victory be guaranteed to any Dem. The assurance of beating a terrible candidate needs a modestly strong candidate and a united party. In an open election this is of course often hard to achieve right away.

Sanders is absolutely winning his first goal- to challenge the platform and beliefs of the party leadership. The major goal of the other side- surprisingly weak and often inept in asserting near 100% party machinery support for last time's runner up-
was too big. They wanted to tamp down and hush those issues and that whole voice of the people thing. They will be obdurate in giving the supers to Hillary. They will be obdurate and perhaps graceless in silencing the immense crowd of Bernie delegates swarming the convention. They will have to admit defeat of the Third Way or guarantee defeat in the fall. They will have to heal inside in the hall.

With this unprecedented percentage of delegates there in the hall they will be helpless to beat Sanders' main professed goal. They will very likely have to settle for a graceful Sanders concession at that same convention as their only path to party unity.

Though the political judgment many "pros" have shown so far has been incompetent, gutless, outdated, off point, curiously Republican lite, truculent, arrogant, bewildered, leaderless embarassing but if none of those a clear and present unnecessary danger to any thing on this planet I can think of that's worth saving. I don't really see or know IF the party power puffs will let the whole party come together for the people or if winning in November is their top priority for all races.

Also, it isn't over yet, this stubborn back and forth battle.

That's my call. Called it some time ago. Bernie Sanders is Seabiscuit. The improbable, come-from-behind, never-say-die, oblivious to ridicule from "the elite," dauntless, knock-kneed, squat underdog and greatest race horse who ever lived.

Heart. HEART.

but the game is over.

Essentially meaningless.

You can still do some good. However, staying in negates all your achievements and puts our country at risk of a Trump presidency which is unthinkable. Concede. Leave with some dignity.

Onward to the convention!