2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis feminist is sticking with Bernie Sanders: Why Hillary backers need to take another long, honest
Before it's too late, my fellow feminists need to reconsider Clinton, ignore the peer pressure, and vote on issues
Marie Myung-Ok Lee
My friend, novelist Holly LeCraw, and I started a public endorsement group, Writers 4 Bernie, and were finding that although Bernie supporters are out there, many arent out. Its a dirty secret, it seems, to not vote feminist; a famous writer who has spoken publicly in favor of Bernie declined to join our group because my wife is for Hillary. Scores of people I know are for Bernie but dont want to make these views public. A few described themselves as reluctant Hillary voters because they, like my friend, like Bernies positions better but feel the need to unite behind Hillary. There were a few mutterings that we should have called our group Writers Against Trump.
A Trump presidency is indeed not an impossibility. But if that happens, its not on Writers4Bernie; its on Hillary for being a weak candidate. And likely on the DNC for not supporting the candidate who polls stronger against all three of the RepublicansBernie beats Trump by double digits while Hillary is within the margin of error against Trump and loses to Kasich. Simply put, the superdelegate system and closed primaries may succeed in pushing Clinton to victory as the partys nominee, but its at the peril of wishing away the most recent Gallup poll that showed a record 43% of American voters identify as independents, a demographic that overwhelmingly prefers Bernie, as seen in his sweeping wins in the caucuses and open primaries where independents are allowed to vote. So why stick to an outdated, confusing, likely corrupt nominating process that ignores voters actual preferences?
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/04/this_feminist_is_sticking_with_bernie_sanders_why_hillary_backers_need_to_take_another_long_honest_look/
This feminist is sticking with Bernie Sanders too.
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)Do Not Interfere With the Coronation In Any Way !!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)It will be a joy for feminists everywhere to see a strong woman pulverize an MRA douche bigot.
AirmensMom
(14,643 posts)Sticking with Bernie all the way.
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)They are separate and distinct from the reality of governance.
As for the general election, nobody's laid a glove on Sanders. Clinton has taken attacks from all sides. Even so, she is polling double digits ahead of Trump.
Were Sanders to get the nomination, Republicans would rake him over the coals, scaring the bejeezus out of people by comparing him to Stalin, Marx and Lenin and saying he wants the US to be like Cuba, China or Russia where people are oppressed. Not to mention they'd find something -- anything -- in his "closet" that we haven't even heard yet and turn it into a huge character issue and/or scandal.
Let's not kid ourselves, please.
pmorlan1
(2,096 posts)but I am afraid of the real scandals that we know already exist in Clinton's closet.
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)We don't know everything he ever did or said going back to when he was a teenager.
His marriage hasn't been picked apart and criticized from all directions.
We haven't seen thousands of his emails.
And the GOP would love to hit him over the head with the word "Socialist."
Let's just be real about this.
quit kidding yourself, jeeze Louise
JudyM
(29,251 posts)There's just a helluva lot more to attack Hillary on, mostly her own poor judgment.
But I am sure you will not recognize this as any part of the cause of the differential.
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)They lay off the candidate they WANT to run against. It's how the game is played.
(Remember how much they propped up John Edwards?)
JudyM
(29,251 posts)a more honorable person, AFAIK.
There is just so much that Hillary has done sneakily, disingenuously, breaking laws... You can take issue with all of that as not being accurate, but IMV there is no comparison who there will be more dirt on because with her it's already there, and since she has been a demonstrated liar, I assume the chances are that there is likely a lot more.
Her double-dealing as SOS is a deal breaker for me. No one should be in office who has such a dearth of ethics.
vintx
(1,748 posts)So many women seem ok with Hillary's hawkishness, her support for private prisons and the drug war, her willingness to use children as pawns to 'send a message', her willingness to bargain on reproductive rights... I could go on.
Just being a woman doesn't make one a feminist.
Hillary is no feminist by my definition of the word.