2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama’s Legacy Is Bigger Than You’d Ever Believe
He signed into law a comprehensive national health insurance bill, a goal that had eluded progressive presidents for a century. He got surprisingly tough reforms to Wall Street passed as well, not to mention a stimulus package that both blunted the recession and transformed education and energy policy.
Hes put in place the toughest climate rules in American history and signed a major international limate accord. He opened the US to Cuba for the first time in more than half a century, and reached a peaceful settlement to the nuclear standoff with Iran.
I want to add.. Obama is the first President to endorse marriage equality.
http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/environment/obamas-legacy-is-bigger-than-youd-ever-believe/
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)So very glad Obama won in 2008. That's a very excellent point you make, that if we'd elected her then, we'd not have Obama's legacy but hers and hers would not be the same as his nor as good.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I am super glad he won.. what is your point?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)She was not the right choice then, not the right choice now. She's the candidate who has sketchy grasp on the basic elements of our national history, much less LGBT history. She's the candidate who says that Reagan was the original AIDS activist, bravely doing the work gay people refused to do. She's still second choice, better only than the Republicans, same as in 2008.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Bernie was not pro marriage equality until 2009 AFTER Obama. IMO.. Clinton is better than Sanders and that is why I am voting for her this time. I live in Portland btw
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)And you are not being honest about anything you are saying about Bernie, just as you are doing nothing but hurl mendacious personal insults at me.
Sad that your cohort can't discuss policy and fact and has to instantly resort to dishonesty and invective and smears. Of course your transparency page is not an accident....
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)What did I say that was so horrible to your ears?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage_us_569fcc4de4b0a7026bf9e06f
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)even as Bernie wins Democratic Primaries. That's shitty and insulting. It's hateful and uncalled for. You have no standing to speak that way to anyone, no one has that right.
Pushing your bullshit links at me is just more nastiness. You insulted me, then you ask me to read your links? No wonder your transparency page is getting to be as long as a Russian novel.
aikoaiko
(34,173 posts)I think he'll take a break to finish raising his daughters into adulthood, but I expect the President Obama will bring community organization to a new level American politics hasn't seen in a very long time.