It would be better if the losing Candidate Bernie Sanders...conceded now. He has lost and can not win. The supers hate him at this point as do most Democrats.

It's called a primary. Just like Clinton, he has a right to garner as many votes as he can to either have a shot or at least influence the party.

Clinton can campaign as actively against Trump as she wants to in the meantime. No one is stopping her.

he shouldn't be doing so. Doing so.

There's 6 months when Clinton and Trump will be calling each otehr names.Actually that's already started.It's goinbg to get real monotonous.

Having a primary allows Democrats to broaden its message, and actually discuss issues.

while helping Democrats in Congressional races.

The issues have all been discussed and will be in the general.

Trump bad. GOP bad.

We're for women's rights, gun control, positive immigration reform, a chicken in every pot.

She can say that as much as she wants. She can buy ads saying how wonderful she is.

It'll go on for six months. People will get so damn sick of it before November a lot of them will probably sleep through election day.


Why not continue to actually have a meaningful discussion of the issues that Bernie has brought up before that monotonous slug-fest officially begins?

Amercians Hanker for The Hunger of A Champion Who Knows That They Deserve A Break Today Because They're Lovin It When It's The Real Thing So Just Do It, America!"

rinse. repeat.

Thats why all the moaning about sanders being in the race is disingenuous at best. If he hadnt been there she would have spent the past 8 months saying absolutely nothing, but paying beltway consultants millions for new shiny ways to say it.

keep the Democratic candidate involved in primary while he groups his forces and begins his attacks on a opposition candidate forced to fight two foes at once.

What's really new about that? Like mud after a rain, the troublemaker factions on both the far left and far right will always have to be dealt with as they go about their usual passion of trying to drag everyone in the middle down.

Isn't it nice to feel your resentment at losing the primary can itself have significance, even briefly and even if it's for Trump?

And like Clinton is not allowed to go after Trump until the primary is officially over?

None of that is mutually exclusive.

to handicap Hillary for him.

Btw, that's why she waved Sanders bye-bye in the primary. She's too busy to let herself be dragged back by this bilateral chicanery if she can help it. And she is helping it.

I just wanted to let you know whose side you are yammering for. Bernie's effectively out of it. You're working for Trump.

Trump and Hillary are on. Bernie is off.

Trump and Bernie's attacks on Hillary are on. Hillary's attacks on Trump are on.

BSer intransigence and cluelessness are on. Their good sense and and responsibility are off.

Yes, turns out it is pretty much binary.

The rest of it is sound and fury that is out of individual's ability to control.

People have a right to complain, say nice things....whatever they want. That's what democracy is all about. What a concept.

move to anti-est Trump if Sanders lost. Others did not and are just moving with the crowd.

So stop it. In fact, she has already almost completed that pivot

She could have, since he didn't have enough delegates without super delegates.

Instead, she personally nominated him, for the good of the party.

So soviet Era your suggestion

It dos feel a little like Soviet era enforced conformity to the dictates of the Commisar

And they call Bernie a Red?

You've convinced me.

How many political positions have been lost under the current leadership?

How many people have left the party under the current leadership?

No one wants to be a part of a do-nothing institution as it currently stands. They want posititive results and the DNC has produced nothing but lost ground and compromise again and again.

It's time for change. If you want to understand the problems with the party, look within.

If the party continues with the status quo, they'll be swimming with the fishes in a couple of cycles.

Dragging it out through the rest of the primaries is bad enough, since it puts the party behind the eight-ball in getting the general election fundraising and framework put in place, but if he actually tries to drag it out through July and take the nomination away, that would be another month of needless distraction that takes away time and energy from attacking Trump. It would be reckless, inexcusable, and at least to me unforgivable.

Terrible, righ?

+/- 3 moe

Very much an outlier.

As is most of GDP these days.

A lot of angry rhetoric signifying nothing.

Bernie polls much better than Hillary in the GE and against Trump and esp Kasich where Hillary would lose. Bernie is not under the threat of indictment and does not have the extremely High Negatives that Hillary does- not to mention the FBI widening it's investigation to the Clinton Foundation.

If she actually tries to drag it out through and take the nomination away, that would be another month of needless distraction that takes away time and energy from attacking Trump. It would be reckless, inexcusable, and at least to me unforgivable.

Yeah, I am sure her supporters are going to agree to this.

I see.

Democracy is hard.

Subverting the democratic process is harder. Lee Atwater's art wasn't created in a day.

subverts the democratic party...he wants a win he certainly did not earn. Makes him look hypocritical.

She's prohibitively ahead of him regardless of the superdelegate system. It's over.

So Bernie types could call and pressure Supers...won't work...Bernie needs to go.

and was trying to get the Florida and Michigan delegates seated...they were penalized by the DNC. Bernie says he will go to the convention...which would make him as good as a trump supporter.

She had agreed they would not be seated and ended up changing her mind when she saw an opportunity to claim delegates. That whole mess gave the party a black eye and it was all her doing.

Trying to overturn the vote?

There is no vote to overturn as they have not voted yet. Maybe you don't understand how super delegates work?

And she was trying to seat the banned delegates...sort of like Bernie trying to get the supers to award him the nomination...because he so great...not.

You sure sound panicked.

Not sure what Hillary's cheerleaders are thinking when they insist he is hurting the party.

Probably aren't thinking at all ...

weight. If you really want liberals and liberalism out of the party, then stop telling them they have to vote for Hillary.

Anyone who is bringing up Wall St. connections as far as Hillary is concerned is no better than the Bengazi addicts. The fact is that the press hates the Clintons and has pushed everything that can be construed as negative toward the Clintons irregardless of accuracy. Bernie makes money from speeches, and I'll guarantee his speaking fee is going up as soon as the campaign is over.

Looking at some of the responses here tells me that the Republican propaganda is working. The fact that must be faced is that if someone does not vote for the Democratic nominee they are voting for Donald Trump. If they are not going to vote they need to put a "Trump for President" hat on. If they are going to vote for a third party, they should just go and vote for Trump.

In 2000, several hundred thousand people who followed the press script of "Clinton fatigue" or who disagreed with Clinton on one or two issues voted for Nader. Those Nader voters are directly responsible for the election of George Bush and the hundreds of thousands of deaths in the Middle East. You may not like NAFTA, but I'd much rather have had NAFTA, President Gore, no war, no ISIS and a million more people alive and uninjured than have had what we got because some people engaged in electoral petulance.

The fact is it may be Bernie vs. Trump, it will probably be Hillary vs. Trump, and you either vote for Bernie/Hillary or you vote for Trump, that's it, that's what you're choosing. The last time people didn't vote for a Democrat because they weren't getting 100% of what they wanted it cost a great deal in human life and suffering. People are talking about making the exact same mistake here, and it's got to stop. "You can't always get what you want, but if you try, you get what you need".

The working class wants someone with integrity. Imagine that.

has won 20 contests against the most well known woman in the world. I'd panic.

it sure as hell cant buy my support, unless she gives it all back and declares war on the corporations bankrolling her.

Chances of that happening? Less than zero...

I guess there isn;t any quality aspect of that contest?

It ain't Bernie.

What could it be? How about the fact that the Democratic party continues to shrink- down to 29% of voters now? Or that fracking is now ok? Or support of bad trade deals that send jobs overseas? Or embracing Walls Street and opposing Glass Steagall? Or supporting regime change and no-fly zones? Or opposing healthcare for all? Or opposing free college for all? Or talking down to the supporters of Bernie, calling them naive, wanting free stuff, and that Bernie is a one issue candidate that should "tone it down."

Sorry, I think it might be time for the party to look in the mirror and see if these issues, all of which are embraced by the GOP, might actually be that lead weight that you are referring to...

Problem is, how do we get the HRC supporters to realize what is happening? They say Bernie supporters are drinking the kool aid, yet they can't even see their own ship is sinking all around them while they are so focused on getting their inevitable candidate elected...

That's gratitude for you.

And I say that as a Dem for 40+ years, and having watched Sanders' career ever since he came to Washington circa 1990, caucusing and voting with Dems that whole time. Just who do you think you're talking to?

Sanders is my candidate, he's running in the Dem party, and I expect nothing but cooperation from the party I belong to.

terrible DINO Wall St. candidates down our throats.

Sid

I mean all the way away as in far away from pulling the lever on election day. Hillary needs us to win. It's a shame her supporters don't realize that.

I and everyone else have a right to their opinion and their damn vote! But to see this kind of bull is beyond sickening! Sanders' campaign is not a dead weight around the Democratic Party's neck. He has every right to continue just as Clinton has done in the past. This needs to stop before this site ends up being nothing more than a good place to post crap.

It is neither. Bernie Sanders campaign will continue to make noise all the way to the convention. I would say it is like a noisemaker tied to your car. It will not slow the car down. It will draw more attention to the car.

The Clinton campaign will not aggressively battle Sanders, they have already beaten him.

That's the corruption of Cronie Capitalism and War for Profit doing that.

Like most of us are doing now.

He is finished. She knows this. She should be kind to him and his supporters but focus on Trump.

had not been jammed down our throats from the beginning, Sanders wouldn't have had so much support to campaign for this long.

Maybe next time, the DNC will allow other people to run.

If he doesn't get the supers he thinks hes entitled to.

And he ain't getting them.

Thank you for acknowledging that Sanders has "gravitas" that your candidate lacks.

*That has caucused and done fund-raising with Democrats in Congress for 25+ years and one of the most liberal voting records in Congress?

*You mean the only Democratic or teapublican presidential candidate in the 2016 race that has had a 100% rating from PP and NARAL for 20 years straight?

*You mean the only Democratic or teapublican presidential candidate in the 2016 race that has had a 100% rating from The Human Right Campaign for 16 years in a row.

*You mean the co-founder and pass chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus?

Which, y'know... hell with 'em.

Many actors profited off the transformation of the Democratic party into a pro-corporate entity, the Democratic party did not.