2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAsking A Candidate to Reach 2383 By Pledged Delegates Only = Asking Them To Win 59% Of The PDs
Do people realize how ridiculous that is?
First of all, if there were no super delegates involved, the number wouldn't be 2383 to reach a majority. It would be 2066 (ie 51% of 4051 pledged delegates).
Hillary currently has 1635 pledged delegates. That means she's only 431 pledged delegates away from having a majority in pledged delegates. Once she gets those 431 pledged delegates, it is impossible for Sanders to get more pledged delegates than her.
The 2383 number exists only because it includes the super delegates. Imagining that a candidate needs to hit 2383 with ONLY pledged delegates is simply ignorant. That's 59% of the total of pledged delegates. That would mean that a candidate who won 58% of the pledged delegates could be denied the nomination by a candidate who received only 42% of the pledged delegates.
Skink
(10,122 posts)Everyone in the know knew Hillary bought up the SD'S early.
mythology
(9,527 posts)The super delegates would have switched. Don't blame the super delegates for Sanders losing the pledged delegates.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)COrrected previous misstatement - he did get over the required 2,118 was needed to win
mythology
(9,527 posts)Obama didn't get an outright majority of delegates with just pledged delegates. He had about a 100 pledged delegate lead and the super delegates pushed him over the top because he was the pledged delegate winner. Clinton is nearly 300 pledged delegates ahead and will be the winner of the pledged delegates and thus both the super delegates and the nomination.