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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:26 PM May 2016

Asking A Candidate to Reach 2383 By Pledged Delegates Only = Asking Them To Win 59% Of The PDs

Do people realize how ridiculous that is?

First of all, if there were no super delegates involved, the number wouldn't be 2383 to reach a majority. It would be 2066 (ie 51% of 4051 pledged delegates).

Hillary currently has 1635 pledged delegates. That means she's only 431 pledged delegates away from having a majority in pledged delegates. Once she gets those 431 pledged delegates, it is impossible for Sanders to get more pledged delegates than her.

The 2383 number exists only because it includes the super delegates. Imagining that a candidate needs to hit 2383 with ONLY pledged delegates is simply ignorant. That's 59% of the total of pledged delegates. That would mean that a candidate who won 58% of the pledged delegates could be denied the nomination by a candidate who received only 42% of the pledged delegates.

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Skink

(10,122 posts)
1. Maybe more people would have joined the race in that case
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

Everyone in the know knew Hillary bought up the SD'S early.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
4. And just like in 2008 if somebody beat Clinton in the pledged delegates
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:36 PM
May 2016

The super delegates would have switched. Don't blame the super delegates for Sanders losing the pledged delegates.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
6. He only got to 2285 with super delegates.
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:38 PM
May 2016

COrrected previous misstatement - he did get over the required 2,118 was needed to win

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
8. Awkwardly you're just factually wrong
Wed May 4, 2016, 03:44 PM
May 2016

Obama didn't get an outright majority of delegates with just pledged delegates. He had about a 100 pledged delegate lead and the super delegates pushed him over the top because he was the pledged delegate winner. Clinton is nearly 300 pledged delegates ahead and will be the winner of the pledged delegates and thus both the super delegates and the nomination.

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