2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPattern of smearing sex abuse victim: 28 July 1975, #Hillary2016 smeared a 12-year old rape victim
On 28 July 1975, #Hillary2016 smeared a 12-year old rape victim by saying she had "a tendency to seek out older men"
https://twitter.com/JeanetteJing/status/727390328659935232
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Look up the duties and responsibilities of public defenders. I know a public defender. A very difficult and heart breaking requirement of the law to do their very best, every time.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,869 posts)...
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)About all that is correct is that she did defend him. Everyone is entitled to a defense in our system, in case you were unaware.
icecreamfan
(115 posts)She cracked a joke about polygraphs and comes across as bragging about getting the guy off with about a year for a rape that caused a coma and permanent physical damages.
I found the interview tape disturbing.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)listen to it, don't make any judgments- till you hear it. She misrepresented the situation to the judge, too IMHO. because of the spoliation of evidence. It sounds like the rapist was a loser but he was from a rich family.
Anyway, NO I WOULD NOT LIKE HER TO BE PRESIDENT. SHE'S CLEARLY DISHONEST.
George II
(67,782 posts)...the Democratic nomination for President or being elected President.
I don't know what the OP hopes to accomplish with that.
Again, everyone should research the responsibilities and obligations of a court appointed attorney.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)now that is above and beyond the call of duty.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)This doc shows:
1) HRC was NOT a public defender, but volunteered.
2) Smeared the girl by implying she was crazy.
https://twitter.com/JeanetteJing/status/727395706248421376
Hillary supporters are saying that she had to take the case. She didn't have to. It was a favor for someone she knew
https://twitter.com/retasue47/status/727401625577353217
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)She even tried to get out of it. You are just making stuff up now.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/jul/17/did-hillary-clinton-ask-be-relieved-rapist/
w4rma
(31,700 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)When a judge in a small town asks a legal clinic lawyer for a favor, it isn't a choice.
George II
(67,782 posts)....her volunteering or doing anyone a favor?
And now tweets are a valid source of the "truth"?
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)on to post this shit whenever an opportunity arises. They don't care about the right of an accused to have a professional and vigorous defense. They don't care about a lawyer's professional obligations and duties to his/her client. It's "my mind is made up - hang him (and hang his lawyer, too). Very disheartening. Wish they still required Civics classes in High School.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Article published. Hillary was the attorney defending someone who was charged. Who in the hell was Sanders defending? No one, makes lots of difference.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)I don't see how that was a necessary part of a vigorous defense.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)You just may find more statements like this. Sanders was not an attorney, wrote a terrible article, managed to offend women and then sent it in to be published, what was he thinking?
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Unlike this little gem ...
scscholar
(2,902 posts)but he is still our best hope for fixing things.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)Who even KEN STARR found unbelievable and dishonest.
lolz
You forgot Vince Foster. PLEASE mention him, or money laundering, so I can get CDS Bingo!
obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)Every time someone on here posts this, that is ALL is shows. It's a compliment to Hillary. Everyone who needs a court-appointed attorney should be lucky enough to have one as ethical and vigorous as she was.
Doing anything less for her client than she did -- which many overworked PDs do -- would have been illegal and unethical, and grounds for her license taken away.
So, by all means continue showing the world how ethical HRC is.
THANKS!!!!!!!
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)That was both cruel and unnecessary. And UNethical.
obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)That's what defense attorneys do, and she was court-appointed. Anything less was unethical. There's a reason why private criminal defense attorneys often don't take these cases. HRC didn't have a choice.
I never get why OPs choose this to smear HRC with, because the smear is ridiculous.
Joob
(1,065 posts)Sorry. Maybe it was a nervous laugh, doesn't matter.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)to get a rapistwho she knew was guilty, off.
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)1990s VRWC lies and breitbart as a source further down this thread
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)She was a lawyer and it's a crappy job sometimes. I'm sure it sucked having to defend the indefensible.
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obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)NICCCCCCCCCE
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)REALLY?
kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)Demsrule86
(68,607 posts)rightwing crap...well it's all you got now that Bernie has been beaten like a drum.
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kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)FUCK YOU!
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)On Thu May 5, 2016, 11:01 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
You are nothing but a right wing troll.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1909266
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Unacceptable to tell another poster fuck you and calling them a troll
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Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Dragging up a 20 year old bogus charge? I probably would have reacted the same way. STOP this character assassination and you won't be spoken to like that. Perfectly acceptable in today's DU environment. LEAVE IT.
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Explanation: What a kooky election season...
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Easy hide.
George II
(67,782 posts)Response to kgnu_fan (Original post)
rjsquirrel This message was self-deleted by its author.
Demsrule86
(68,607 posts)Everyone has the right to a defense. 75...you think this is really important?
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)she for some reason laughed about it.
Supposedly there is tape of this interview.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)... Even the guilty ones, then you hardly could be the advocate for criminal justice reform.
http://jezebel.com/about-that-time-hillary-clinton-smeared-a-tween-rape-vi-1593808728
She was ordered to take the case. She managed to get him to take the plea deal, so he didn't go free and she didn't have to testify in open court. From the difference between 2008 and 2016 -interviews, the survivor may never have known that Hillary had put those things in writing until the news media decided to drag it out before the world (she was critical of the people who wrote the stories as much as Hillary in recent interviews.
We have worked to reform laws that allowed rape defense attorneys to slander their prior sexual history, etc, but this case was over 40 years ago. We still need to improve on them, no question.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)Remember, she wasn't getting paid to take that case (edit: in the sense of by the client) She was ordered to take the case. And as a defense attorney in that case, she was subject to the Arkansas version, at that time, of this ABA model rule:
She probably carefully worded it to say "these things have been told to me" because she couldn't truthfully suggest they were facts vs innuendo that should have been disregarded, even if that's what her client wanted.
http://jezebel.com/about-that-time-hillary-clinton-smeared-a-tween-rape-vi-1593808728
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)When will you be leaving? You know -- tombstone. granite cookie. ppr.
Soon? Certainly not too soon.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)This poster will be given a gold star and praised here in GD-Bernie aka Bernie Underground.
Fucking bullshit keep spewing.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)I mean "jury" keeps this right wing shit on the page.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)which makes the unable to contribute any further to it.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)I was attempting hiding the Bill garbage that's more worthy of somewhere else entirely , your response should not be hidden, it is getting kind of horrifying the amount of RW garbage being used, it takes away from fairness and should not be allowed, perhaps you can change it, I got confused u til I saw the results.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)But I have to wonder what the end game is here. What is the goal or purpose in mind when one brings up tis kind of nonsense?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)She brags about her role in getting the guy off and laughs about knowing he was actually guilty---and NEVER does she show an ounce of sympathy for the victim.
Those are facts.
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zappaman
(20,606 posts)Awesome.
George II
(67,782 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)On Thu May 5, 2016, 07:25 PM you sent an alert on the following post:
Fmr Advisor Morris: I Left When Hillary Hired Secret Police to Go After Woman Victimized by Bill
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For the love of criminy--brietbart as a source?? Why not just link to Free Republic and drop the pretense.
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Explanation: Agreed. To quote Skinner in an answer he recently gave someone in the Ask the Administrators group:
"Frankly I find it appalling that anyone on DU would use sources like The Blaze, The Weekly Standard, The Daily Caller, or Breitbart to tear down any Democrat. Whenever I'm on a jury for stuff like that I vote to hide it. But apparently some DUers seem to buy into the old adage that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." But let's be clear: These websites are not our friend."
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Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I'd self delete if I were you
840high
(17,196 posts)his head in shame?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And comes to a stop on this nonsense again.