2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumShould Bernie pick a VP? Who would give him a boost?
Ralph Nader? Jill Stein?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)That is toxic and can really compromise your ideals and agenda.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Jack Bone
(2,023 posts)We're nowhere near there yet
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Biaviians
(167 posts)thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)Maybe the part you're confused about is that Turner has only been a state senator (which Obama was also, before he was a U.S. senator).
pinebox
(5,761 posts)You're splitting hairs.
She would make a fine VP.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)And even in the state senate, she only served 6 years (that's the entirety of her political career). Also, politically she never beat an opponent in an election. Initially she was appointed to fill out someone else's term. Then when it came time to face an election, she had the good fortune of running in a district where she would run unopposed (there was no Republican candidate). When she went from there to run for Ohio SOS, she lost 60% to 35% (admittedly against an incumbent).
And yes, getting back to your initial implication, that's notably less experience than Obama had.
If you think he should have an AA woman on the ticket, you could look at Maxine Waters or Barbara Lee. Or maybe Susan Rice, but she's a mixed bag.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)I think Nina would be wonderful as she is very much in touch with the American people and BLM movement. She is from a state which is a hot button right now with what is happening.
The whole thing with Bernie is the "outsider" issue. Nina would play well with that and so would someone like Gavin Newsom
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Go for it. It couldn't hurt. He has nothing to lose.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Pure class all the way!
This would be as funny as Cruz picking his VP when everybody knew he had no shot at the presidency.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I'd have vetted not only a VP, but an entire cabinet and would announce their place in my administration before I announced my intention to run for President.
onenote
(42,715 posts)First, vetting that many people would drain resources that most campaigns can't spare at the primary stage.
Second, the announcement of an entire cabinet would become a major distraction away from the candidate and towards the individual cabinet selections. A campaign would risk alienating/upsetting supportive groups who might not like every pick. Plus, if one or more turn out to have a skeleton in their past (and vetting by a campaign sometimes misses things), it could become a big problem.
Finally, one of the things that campaigns do with the VP pick is use them to draw attention away from the opposing GE ticket -- to suck up media time. Shooting that bullet during primary season would deprive a campaign of that opportunity.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)cloudythescribbler
(2,586 posts)... and should NO MATTER WHO WINS IN NOV start right away organizing a progressive opposition both within and outside the Democratic Party. All the flak on DU and elsewhere notwithstanding, Bernie has done nothing to seriously undermine his credibility, which is crucial for that urgent goal. This is a move that would only be ridiculed, probably even moreso than in the case of Cruz, given the MSM's readiness to trash anything authentically progressive-leaning on the US political spectrum
Samantha
(9,314 posts)would make the heads spin of so many people! She's young enough to succeed him, liberal enough and she could really turn out some extra votes for him. It would be amazing to watch this unfold.
Sam
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)Actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to pick a VP, keeping in mind someone who can help lead a movement that will demand change regardless of who is in the White House. Not sure who it would be, but by choosing them as VP now, they would get a lot of attention. Nader too old and divisive, and I don't think Jill Stein is a particularly inspiring speaker, so maybe it would be someone relatively unknown. I don't think there's any point of him choosing a VP in the hope it boosts his campaign. It won't, unless he could find someone who was nationally popular, had national stature, and had similar credentials to his own, and I don't think there's anyone like that.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)And I'm honestly not saying that as a Hillary supporter, I really think that.
obamanut2012
(26,083 posts)Oh wait, you are serious?!
Arneoker
(375 posts)But this topic is so sad and pathetic. Why don't you talk about something substantial, like how to build progress after the Presidential election?
Tarc
(10,476 posts)FSogol
(45,493 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)In the Bizarro universe where Bernie wins the nomination, Ted Cruz would be liberal.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)for that sort of sad desperation?
Please proceed, Senator. . .
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Other than that limited benefit, it is a spectacularly bad idea.
brooklynite
(94,624 posts)They'd likely DOUBLE Green's voter performance...to 1.3%
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)How much would that shake up the race?