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kgnu_fan

(3,021 posts)
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:58 AM May 2016

2,000 US doctors endorse Sanders' single-payer healthcare proposal



https://boingboing.net/2016/05/06/2000-us-doctors-endorse-sande.html

An editorial in The American Journal of Public Health, signed by 2,000 MDs, endorses Bernie Sanders' "Medicare for All" single-payer healthcare system.

The doctors point to the failings in Obamacare -- namely, that it is still expensive, especially for low-income Americans, and it allows private insurers to cream off enormous profits -- and estimates that the proposal could be funded by eliminating the bureaucratic inefficiencies of commercial healthcare insurance and by restoring progressive taxation to the very wealthy.


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2,000 US doctors endorse Sanders' single-payer healthcare proposal (Original Post) kgnu_fan May 2016 OP
This is a great group! Check out this doctors group! ViseGrip May 2016 #1
If you had the other 998,000 actively pushing for it, we'd get somewhere. Hoyt May 2016 #2
+1 oasis May 2016 #5
K&R vintx May 2016 #3
These sexist commies need to learn about civics and free stuff and triangles and incremental change Doctor_J May 2016 #4
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #6
knr amborin May 2016 #7
February 2009 - President Obama Must Include Single-Payer Advocates slipslidingaway May 2016 #8
Democratic Party has become Republican Party surrogate. kgnu_fan May 2016 #10
Unfortunately the American people are being played on this issue :( nt slipslidingaway May 2016 #11
watching TV too many hours kgnu_fan May 2016 #12
Just like his bank breaking "I don't know" Sanders still doesn't explain how he's going to uponit7771 May 2016 #9
K&R liberal_at_heart May 2016 #13
kick for the evening... kgnu_fan May 2016 #14
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. If you had the other 998,000 actively pushing for it, we'd get somewhere.
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

There are a lot more than 2,000 who support single payer or at least heavily subsidized health insurance.

I'm sure most of physicians who accept a lot of Medicaid patients would be for it, as well as those who actually went into medicine for the right reasons.

The problem is that there are a lot of physicians who are afraid single payer would just mean a lot less money for them. A lot of physicians refuse to accept typically low Medicaid and Obamacare rates.

But even then, I bet a good percentage of physicians are for single payer -- or something close -- just for the humanitarian aspects.

The question is still, how do we get there the fastest?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. These sexist commies need to learn about civics and free stuff and triangles and incremental change
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

Ponies! Sexists! (did I already say that one?!?) Anyone who is for SP is a misogynist, and probably a racist too, since Obama is against SP!

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
8. February 2009 - President Obama Must Include Single-Payer Advocates
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

In National Health Care Debate

Remember 2009, The Democratic party has been trying to silence this group for decades


http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/february/president_obama_must.php



"This morning, President Obama announced he will create a $634 billion reserve fund over the next decade to provide a down payment for expanding health coverage. The announcement comes a week before a White House health care summit that marks the beginning of the first serious effort to reform health care since the Clinton task force in 1993.

The president wants this process to be open and transparent, with the goal of achieving universal coverage. However, groups representing physicians, nurses, and consumers who advocate for a single-payer system of national health insurance have thus far been excluded from the summit.

Under a single-payer system, doctors, hospitals and other health care providers are paid from a single fund administered by the government. The system would eliminate the wasteful spending and high administrative costs of private insurance, saving almost $400 billion annually. This savings is enough to provide every American with the same high-quality care, including those who currently have insurance but still cannot afford medications and treatment.

If health care is a key to fixing our national deficit and providing the economic stimulus that we need to recover from this recession, it is unacceptable to ignore the only system that will provide true universal coverage. If the only people who have input on health care reform are the lobbyists who represent the interests of insurance and drug companies, the final result will be a system that benefits the insurance and drug companies.

The Clinton task force on health reform made a similar mistake of excluding the voices of those who support a single-payer system, and the result was a complicated, inadequate reform proposal that catered to the interests of insurance companies and failed to garner public support. At a time when public support for single-payer is greater than ever - more than 60 percent in recent polls - we urge President Obama not to make the same mistake. He must include single-payer advocates in the health care summit next week."



uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. Just like his bank breaking "I don't know" Sanders still doesn't explain how he's going to
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

... get those doctors, hospitals groups and pharma to accept nearly half of what they're getting paid now.

The private HCI only accounts for 10% of overall medical admin cost and that's conservative...

It'll be replaced with a 3% admin cost from medicare or some other plan from the government

So I get a total of 7% total out of pocket savings seeing that instead of paying a private HCI high premiums I'm paying the government high premiums because

There's NO ... NONE... NOTHING from the Sanders plan that shows those people supporting Sanders taking nearly half of what they get paid today to get the overall premiums down.

Yes, we care about policy

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