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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:50 PM May 2016

Atlanta Mayor’s Column Ripping Bernie Sanders Drafted by Lobbyist, Emails Show

"A FEW DAYS BEFORE the Georgia primary, influential Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed published a column on CNN.com praising Hillary Clinton and ripping her opponent, Bernie Sanders. Reed attacked Sanders as being out of step with Democrats on gun policy, and accused him of elevating a “one-issue platform” that ignores the plight of the “single mother riding two buses to her second job.”

But emails released from Reed’s office indicate that the column, which pilloried Sanders as out of touch with the poor, was primarily written by a corporate lobbyist, and was edited by Correct the Record, one of several pro-Clinton Super PACs.

Anne Torres, the mayor’s director of communications, told The Intercept this week that the column was not written by the mayor, but by Tharon Johnson, a former Reed adviser who now works as a lobbyist for UnitedHealth, Honda, and MGM Resorts, among other clients. The column’s revisions by staffers from Correct the Record are documented in the emails.

Johnson, Torres told us, is a “capable writer,” who managed Reed’s first campaign. Reed “provided verbal edits and feedback to Tharon, but other than that, no one from my office or the mayor’s office wrote this op-ed,” Torres said."

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/06/hillary-super-pac-draft-oped/
Not surprised at all.

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Atlanta Mayor’s Column Ripping Bernie Sanders Drafted by Lobbyist, Emails Show (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
kill the messenger Buzz Clik May 2016 #1
How so? NWCorona May 2016 #2
The only comments on this (and this is not the first thread on the subject)... Buzz Clik May 2016 #3
Where's the other thread? I didn't see that and don't like dups. NWCorona May 2016 #7
I was not criticizing you for putting up another thread on this. That kind of thing happens. Buzz Clik May 2016 #10
I'm not a kill the messenger type of person but I do think the actual messenger should be known NWCorona May 2016 #14
Excellent response. Buzz Clik May 2016 #15
Thanks and I feel the same about you! NWCorona May 2016 #19
Lol. You will defend anything from Hillary or camp Hillary cali May 2016 #4
And into la-la land we go! Kindly tell me where I defended this. Please use quotation marks. Buzz Clik May 2016 #8
I've criticized Bernie too. No one is perfect except Hillary I guess. nt NWCorona May 2016 #9
Think this qualifies for plagerism...different than kill the messenger. libdem4life May 2016 #11
No it does not. Plagiarism has a very specific definition that does NOT include... Buzz Clik May 2016 #12
That "someone" is a lobbyist for sectors where there beedle May 2016 #16
I guess you're not responding to whether or not this was plagiarism. Buzz Clik May 2016 #18
No I'm not responding to "plagiarism". beedle May 2016 #22
No, I don't agree that the act of writing that piece is worst than the acts it speaks against. Buzz Clik May 2016 #24
Yeah, well he doesn't claim what his "someone" wrote. So there's that. libdem4life May 2016 #20
Dude, every person in a position of authority with a public face has writers. Buzz Clik May 2016 #21
Well, duh. Usually they correspond to the message of the person of authority. libdem4life May 2016 #23
yes, but are they paid to write in the interested of the people beedle May 2016 #26
Standard MO... ljm2002 May 2016 #36
HRC Puppet. aikoaiko May 2016 #5
But of course. HooptieWagon May 2016 #6
I wonder how many DU posters are paid astroturfers...it would only be logical. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #13
There is not even one worth more than a penny a post. FlatBaroque May 2016 #25
lobbyist for UnitedHealth!!!!!!! amborin May 2016 #17
When Hillary says single-payer isn't feasible, we know who wrote her words for her n/t arcane1 May 2016 #28
Yep. She is as sold-out as they come. nt vintx May 2016 #33
They're even hiring actual politicians to be trolls. arcane1 May 2016 #27
Down here in Florida, ALEC writes the bills. A GOP legislator accidentally submitted a bill with djean111 May 2016 #29
Written with input and feedback by Reed. That "lobbyist" has worked for Obama, John Lewis, Reed and Hoyt May 2016 #30
It doesn't matter who you used to work for, it matters who you currently represent JonLeibowitz May 2016 #34
He represents Democrats, and most -- if not all -- of them have have endorsed Clinton. Hoyt May 2016 #35
Yes, that's fine. It's also perfectly fine, even expected, to encourage disclosure of possible JonLeibowitz May 2016 #37
He was Reed adviser at the time AND it was Reed's article, not Johnson's. You just don't like Reed, Hoyt May 2016 #38
You haven't shown that he was a Reed advisor at the time. In fact I don't think he was JonLeibowitz May 2016 #39
OP's article says so. Guess that's not good enough for you. Hoyt May 2016 #40
OP's article says: JonLeibowitz May 2016 #41
Reed's article was written several months ago with help of an Democratic advisor.It's really hat sim Hoyt May 2016 #42
But you havent shown he was an advisor at the time. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #43
Not surprising, unfortunately... Which side are you on? AzDar May 2016 #31
Just going to bite my tongue on this one, let's just say I'm excited whether Bernie wins or loses. Joob May 2016 #32
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. The only comments on this (and this is not the first thread on the subject)...
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

... the focus is not on the message but the mechanism of delivery.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
10. I was not criticizing you for putting up another thread on this. That kind of thing happens.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:00 PM
May 2016

My point is no one is talking about the mayors comments in that column only who actually wrote them. The mayor clearly endorses them, so ... are we just providing a smoke screen for the message itself?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511911784

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
14. I'm not a kill the messenger type of person but I do think the actual messenger should be known
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:10 PM
May 2016

Obviously a lot of politicians have speech writers and I have no problem with that. I do draw the line at lobbyists tho.

As to the actual message. I do have a problem with it as he side steps the fact that Clinton is guilty of a lot of the things he accuses Bernie of. He also blasts Bernie about black colleges when no one reached out to him to see if they would be defunded or not. His plan would actually bolster black colleges.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
15. Excellent response.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:13 PM
May 2016

Although you are a fire-breathing Sanders supporter, you are a cut above the rank-and-file.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. Lol. You will defend anything from Hillary or camp Hillary
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:54 PM
May 2016

Doesn't matter how contemptible. And sorry, dear Buzz, but I have criticized Bernie.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. Think this qualifies for plagerism...different than kill the messenger.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

But often nuance and definition is lost on one-liner ... in this case 3 words.

Words attributed to someone who did not write them or authorize them. Somewhere in there is a messenger who took it upon themselves....yada, yada.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
12. No it does not. Plagiarism has a very specific definition that does NOT include...
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:06 PM
May 2016

... hiring someone to write your editorials.

Jeebus H Krpyonite!

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
16. That "someone" is a lobbyist for sectors where there
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:13 PM
May 2016

are differences between the Sanders and Clinton campaigns.

This campaign is very much about Hillary and establishment democrats being too ' in bed' with big business and their lobbyists.

You may be fine with establishment Democrats selling out the people in the name of having corporations pay for elections, but many others are feed up with it.

He has staff, the staff can write those kinds of hit pieces, there's no need to hop into bed with lobbyists for this kind of nonsense.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
18. I guess you're not responding to whether or not this was plagiarism.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016


You may be fine with establishment Democrats selling out the people in the name of having corporations pay for elections, but many others are feed up with it.

Am I?

He has staff, the staff can write those kinds of hit pieces, there's no need to hop into bed with lobbyists for this kind of nonsense.

Hold on to your hat .... I agree.
 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
22. No I'm not responding to "plagiarism".
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

I'm calling it blatant dishonesty, but it's legal .. although a government official should be held to higher standards than a bio ghost writer.

And if you agree, then do you also agree that the act of writing that piece is worst than the acts it speaks against.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
24. No, I don't agree that the act of writing that piece is worst than the acts it speaks against.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

I agree with this:

He has staff, the staff can write those kinds of hit pieces, there's no need to hop into bed with lobbyists for this kind of nonsense.
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. Yeah, well he doesn't claim what his "someone" wrote. So there's that.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:20 PM
May 2016

Very creative exclamation. Must mean something dire.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
21. Dude, every person in a position of authority with a public face has writers.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:22 PM
May 2016

All of them. The writers all get paid, and none get credit. Nobody considers it plagiarism. Well, maybe you.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
23. Well, duh. Usually they correspond to the message of the person of authority.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:28 PM
May 2016

When they don't, one might think they have their own agenda or trying to have it both ways? And even if it does fail the exact test of plagiarism, it smells.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
26. yes, but are they paid to write in the interested of the people
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

who the elected official was elected to serve, or are they being paid to do the bidding of a corporate lobby?

If I'm elected I hire staff and writers to do what's in the interests of the people who elected me.

If I ever think that the people's interests and the interests of some industry sector align, then the same people I hired to write in the name of the interests of the people can write that same speech/article ... I don't hire sector lobbyists because the optics are incredibly poor.

To paraphrase a famous quote: “Not only must integrity be done; it must also be seen to be done”

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
36. Standard MO...
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

...one minute after the OP, reply with a meaningless one-liner.

How fucking idiotic.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. They're even hiring actual politicians to be trolls.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

I choose not to be on the same side as UnitedHealth, Honda, and MGM Resorts.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
29. Down here in Florida, ALEC writes the bills. A GOP legislator accidentally submitted a bill with
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

ALEC's letterhead still on it - she forgot to have it edited out. And the power company writes up any bills concerning the power companies. And so it goes.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. Written with input and feedback by Reed. That "lobbyist" has worked for Obama, John Lewis, Reed and
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

others. But, Sanders's supporters have thrown all of them under the bus. . . . . . .

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
34. It doesn't matter who you used to work for, it matters who you currently represent
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

I thought that was obvious.

This is why we have transparency in government, because it matters whose interests you currently represent.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. He represents Democrats, and most -- if not all -- of them have have endorsed Clinton.
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:17 PM
May 2016
http://www.gtlaw.com/People/Tharon-L-Johnson



I am an accomplished public, political, and business strategist with more than a decade of experience creating successful legislative solutions and political campaigns. I leverage my fifteen years leading key Presidential, Congressional, state, and local campaigns and government teams to craft innovative approaches to complex public affairs challenges for a diverse array of corporate, nonprofit, and public clients.

Currently I serve as Director at Greenberg Traurig LLP, a leading global law firm. Charged with building the regional office's government law and policy practice from the ground-up, I focus my practice on navigating complex legislative environments and building strong relationships across national, federal, state, and local levels.

Throughout my career I have served in senior roles at every level of government, including for such notable public officials as civil rights legend Congressman John Lewis, Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, Georgia Congressman John Barrow, and Labor Commissioner Michael Thurmond. I led national campaign strategy for 11 key southern states, including two battleground states, for President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign, where I also served as Senior Advisor to Florida.

In addition to my professional roles, I am a passionate community servant. I sit on the Board of Trustees of Woodruff Arts Center, Clark Atlanta University, KIPP Metro Atlanta, and the DeKalb County Chamber of Commerce. . . . . .

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tharonjohnson

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
37. Yes, that's fine. It's also perfectly fine, even expected, to encourage disclosure of possible
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:52 PM
May 2016

conflicts of interest. The fact that it wasn't disclosed is bothersome, because it appears to be astroturfing.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
38. He was Reed adviser at the time AND it was Reed's article, not Johnson's. You just don't like Reed,
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:58 PM
May 2016

Lewis, Clyburn, Sharpton, etc., endorsing Clinton. I get it.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
39. You haven't shown that he was a Reed advisor at the time. In fact I don't think he was
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:03 PM
May 2016

Here's his Bio: http://www.gtlaw.com/People/Tharon-L-Johnson

Anyway, he certainly was a lobbyist at the time so he had a conflict of interest.

As for Reed, Lewis, Clyburn, Sharpton endorsing Clinton, that has nothing to do with this and I'd kindly ask you not to introduce distractions into the discussion.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
41. OP's article says:
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016
Anne Torres, the mayor’s director of communications, told The Intercept this week that the column was not written by the mayor, but by Tharon Johnson, a former Reed adviser who now works as a lobbyist for UnitedHealth, Honda, and MGM Resorts, among other clients.


 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
42. Reed's article was written several months ago with help of an Democratic advisor.It's really hat sim
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

as is your reason for not liking the endorsement of Clinton.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
43. But you havent shown he was an advisor at the time.
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

In fact, the article as written (which you claimed proved your point) actually contradicts that narrative.

Sorry the facts don't agree with you.

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