2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders won Albany, NY — but the dominant local newspaper didn’t let its readers know
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/bernie-sanders-won-albany-ny-but-the-dominant-local-newspaper-didnt-let-its-readers-know/
floriduck
(2,262 posts). . . it endorsed Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination . . . .
iandhr
(6,852 posts)... who one state wide mattered more.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)she can even stop papers from reporting Bernie wins.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Omitting important data when your readers count on you for information because reality doesn't work for your narrative is a form of propaganda. If lies and falsehoods are required to create an aura of invincibility or inevitability, a newspaper might as well be Pravda.
Like attracts like, in my experience. Liars live in fear, and justify their actions. People who value honor and integrity inspire it.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)of your candidate and the republicon in the race.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Which is why I obviously don't support either Hillary or Trump.
But I'm sure you have your reasons for supporting the candidate of your choice, too.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)Heard in the HRC group: Susan Collins is being vetted for VP. Pass it on. - posted in the Bernie group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280191905
yet another lie and innuendo. Using disreputable sources (fox, etc) to press a meme. All that gives me pause as to the candidate himself.
However, my position is to support the Democratic nominee in November. Each election is important and this one is more so than others.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)"I am not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat." Hillary is a lawyer who plays word salad games that look like lies, and I wouldn't trust her to do the right thing if it was free. I am not convinced I can vote for her; I know if she gets the nod at the convention, I will change to independent.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)I will remain a democrat. But do be sure and learn the rules of the party so that you and your candidate won't be so angry when he/she takes advantage of the party structure and doesn't understand or decide to learn the various rules of the county, state and national party.
BTW, revolutions take a long time unless they become bloody and then there is really more chaos than revolution as we have seen throughout the evolution of 1968 Prague Spring, the Velvet Revolution and recently the Arab Spring. Of course, with Trump we may see that bloody revolution since most of his supporters are armed to the teeth and have little or no regard for the rule of law.
Here's an article to illustrate my point.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/629022/EU-migration-crisis-far-right-parties-Europe-Germany-Sweden-France
May we all be well.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)So why are you bringing up Fox?
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)and the name was brought up, she was not being vetted as stated in the OP. Whatever nasty story Bernie supporters can find, are posted again and again on this site and it gets tiresome. Fox is used, a story today was from US Uncut with its discredited editor as a reliable source. Find some uplifting stories about your candidate without spending so much time trying to tear the other candidate down is my wish.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)powerful when Bush insisted she help him win over Democrats for his invasion.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)that the blame for poor Bernie's yuge win didn't get noted. And she must have been very powerful indeed because 98 senators voted for the IWR.
Of course, she is the faulted because she had the audacity to run for president even though she is just a woman. Kerry, who voted for the IWR was never even scrutinized for that and he received much democratic sympathy because he was "swift boated" by the republicons. All her shortcomings are amplified and magnified and the most unsavory sources are used as truth tellers and are repeated multiple times daily.
I'm sure you will have some comeback to let me know how wrong I am and how terrible she is and how great Bernie is and how only he can save us.
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Did you really just say that? Utter bullshit. She's faulted for a million billion reasons. Woman is not one of them. Why do you want to repeat that meme over and over again? Are you secretly a man? A Berniebros? A Libertarian? WTF are you trying to do?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Winning 53% of the vote in a great city like Albany NY was HUGE.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)are like a virtual tie. Don't you know?
iandhr
(6,852 posts)WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)before the usual blame that all is her fault
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)Lying is a problem around here.
WhiteTara
(29,719 posts)diametrically opposed. People imagine others will lie far more than they do and lying is a problem around here.
I like the Dalai Lama though. Recently he asked the question. What if the brain comes from consciousness rather than consciousness comes from the brain.
Uncle Joe
(58,372 posts)Thanks for the thread, kgnu_fan.
Baitball Blogger
(46,745 posts)kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)And he lost New York state. BIG
amborin
(16,631 posts)So vote in Albany is more important then the state wide vote.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Many of those counties have more cows than people.
Hillary one the places where people actually live
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I am shocked they didn't mention this.
I found out by looking at the NYT result page.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)Has nothing to do with the story but that's the greyest, most depressing town I've ever been in. No idea how people can stand to live there.