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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:21 PM May 2016

Hillary To Face FBI Interviews Within Weeks:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-06/hillary-clinton-face-fbi-interview-within-weeks-cbs-reports

....an order by Judge Emmet Sullivan of the U.S. District Court decided to lay out ground rules for interviewing multiple State Department officials, and ordered at least six current and former State Department employees to answer questions, all in an effort to finish the depositions in the weeks before the party nominating conventions....

As CBS reports, a source has confirmed that Hillary Clinton will be interviewed by the FBI within the coming weeks, in connection with the investigation into her private email server....

The FBI and Justice Department have been investigating whether sensitive information that flowed through Clinton's email server was mishandled. ...

There's no timetable for completing the investigation, and there have been no statements about how much longer the investigation will take.

As we reported on Wednesday, a federal judge in Washington said he may order Clinton to testify under oath about whether she used a private email server to evade public records disclosures. ...



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Hillary To Face FBI Interviews Within Weeks: (Original Post) amborin May 2016 OP
Ho hum...Democratic front runner investigated by the FBI. Punkingal May 2016 #1
Her fanbase is very busy trying to squelch discussion about this uncomfortable topic CoffeeCat May 2016 #4
The problem is that denying her the nomination for what may not happen is karynnj May 2016 #8
I agree with you on the timing CoffeeCat May 2016 #12
This would not be happening if she had not made such bizarre choices Ash_F May 2016 #20
True but she should drop out because she was under invesitgation TimPlo May 2016 #32
Yes, but their last names aren't Clinton. And they don't have a file libdem4life May 2016 #36
there is enough reason not to support her without the FBI problem, though. grasswire May 2016 #51
+1000 eom noiretextatique May 2016 #70
I agree with everything you said. Punkingal May 2016 #15
My fear is that the Democratic party will be unprepared for a crisis of epic proportions CoffeeCat May 2016 #18
the odds of that are quite minimal 6chars May 2016 #28
I find it extremely frustrating to see a statement like this. Punkingal May 2016 #29
it's a subjective judgment 6chars May 2016 #67
Has Hillary been investigated by FBI before? TimPlo May 2016 #33
Actually, the Party is preparing. senz May 2016 #35
I have noticed this about Joe Biden for a while now CoffeeCat May 2016 #50
Biden Bernie? grasswire May 2016 #53
As far as the timeline on the investigation CoffeeCat May 2016 #63
I suspect that HRC is dragging her feet on the interview. grasswire May 2016 #64
she may have to be "persuaded" to release her delegates. grasswire May 2016 #52
Indictment isn't the benchmark for disqualification. Violation of security oath is enough leveymg May 2016 #87
I am with you karynnj May 2016 #24
no one owes her anything because it is her last shot grasswire May 2016 #54
If she did something illegal she should be indicted noiretextatique May 2016 #73
And yet, to use your very words, Sanders' "fanbase" and "fanatical supporters".... George II May 2016 #78
"Stop posting right-wing trash!" and "You're just wishing for an indictment" CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #79
And great job of the media to keep people informed . . . not! pdsimdars May 2016 #25
Obama's appointee heading the FBI must be part of the "vast nonpartisan conspiracy" Vote2016 May 2016 #39
+1000 absolutely noiretextatique May 2016 #69
Its a non issue. She didnt intend to do anything illegal. Jemmons May 2016 #2
"Voters also view Clinton predominantly as a liar, dishonest, and untrustworthy." amborin May 2016 #3
She only lies to make people happy Jemmons May 2016 #7
I'm guessing the poster forgot something tularetom May 2016 #16
yeah :-) nt grasswire May 2016 #55
I didn't intend to drive drunk, occifer. frylock May 2016 #17
She didn't intend to do anything illegal. So what she did COLGATE4 May 2016 #21
Well, "she was dumb and ignorant and high and mighty" may be her final judgment. libdem4life May 2016 #38
Don't forget the last two parts - exonerated and President. COLGATE4 May 2016 #40
Uh huh. .. We'll see how her stars align. libdem4life May 2016 #42
She'll be fine- and a great President to boot. COLGATE4 May 2016 #43
Well, that we don't know. But odds are better the Republicans already libdem4life May 2016 #44
I believe that she is not above the law. I also believe that she has broken no laws. COLGATE4 May 2016 #48
OK, then. You go with that. libdem4life May 2016 #49
you reveal yourself as a poseur, sir. nt grasswire May 2016 #56
Intent is something a judge or jury determines noiretextatique May 2016 #71
No. But thanks for playing. COLGATE4 May 2016 #74
A former judge who has dealt with these security issues said that if you imporperly handled pdsimdars May 2016 #26
Intent is determined in a courtroom eom noiretextatique May 2016 #72
"She didn't intend to do anything illegal" fits nicely on a bumper sticker, dunnit? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #61
Who cares? tia uponit7771 May 2016 #5
"who cares?" WOW! That says it all. Who cares about the rule of law?! Who cares about democracy?! amborin May 2016 #11
Not a surprise coming from Hillary supporters. Just look at their comments about our constitutional jillan May 2016 #13
And some apparently have no problem with Hillary working with Republican donors. nt NWCorona May 2016 #46
You should care, if you care about the Democratic party CoffeeCat May 2016 #19
So not cleared apparently? MichMan May 2016 #6
Not only cleared, but canonized. Then she ascended bodily into Heaven. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #9
Hahaha grasswire May 2016 #58
she didn't do it, nobody saw her do it, and you can't prove anything AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #10
Just write something on the chalkboard jakeXT May 2016 #23
Well that depends what your definition of cleared is. jillan May 2016 #14
Probably as the last step before they close the investigation. COLGATE4 May 2016 #22
You're right Abouttime May 2016 #31
Now we're on the last step. I was wondering how long it was going to take before COLGATE4 May 2016 #41
sincere welcome to DU :-) nt grasswire May 2016 #57
She'll be fine. apcalc May 2016 #27
Any second now!!! JoePhilly May 2016 #30
Christmas-card-gate lives! ucrdem May 2016 #34
Good.. sounds like they are wrapping this up. DCBob May 2016 #37
I think she is already working on that...as in trying to cajole Republican libdem4life May 2016 #45
I don't think she'll have any problem getting CoffeeCat May 2016 #60
She's going for the establishment/Bush/insider vote grasswire May 2016 #62
This election could be an historic opportunity to convert many moderate Republicans to our side.. DCBob May 2016 #68
is it really "our side" if the positions are republican? n/t PaulaFarrell May 2016 #81
Cut the "republican" crap... Hillary is our nominee... the Democratic Party. DCBob May 2016 #85
Not quite yet, she isn't PaulaFarrell May 2016 #89
Bill Clinton already tried that. It's called the Third Way...and that, IMO, libdem4life May 2016 #86
I'm ready for my close up, Mr Comey. frylock May 2016 #47
So, just to be clear..."It" continues on, with no change yet...right? nt silvershadow May 2016 #59
The indictment fairy song rbrnmw May 2016 #65
Is HRC capable of testifying under oath? Not sure she can discern real truth from evolving truth. EndElectoral May 2016 #66
The fact that sensitive material was ON her server is a crime. . . pdsimdars May 2016 #75
How about showing us the law that says that? COLGATE4 May 2016 #76
How many times are you guys going to post this on DU? This is OLD news. George II May 2016 #77
They're running out of outrges. JoePhilly May 2016 #82
Do you know that Clinton burped at a state dinner back in 1993? That alone should disqualify her. George II May 2016 #83
Well, it was classified. JoePhilly May 2016 #84
Great news... Mike Nelson May 2016 #80
Word on street, if Obama's DOJ continues to stall, the republican house will impeach her ViseGrip May 2016 #88

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
1. Ho hum...Democratic front runner investigated by the FBI.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

And no one in the establishment of the party cares. And probably some people who voted for her don't even know about it. It is beyond bizarre and mind-boggling.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
4. Her fanbase is very busy trying to squelch discussion about this uncomfortable topic
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

Hillary's most fanatical supporters do the entire Democratic party a disservice when they try to discourage discussion, research and understanding about this very serious topic.

Their cries of, "Stop posting right-wing trash!" and "You're just wishing for an indictment" are middle-school antics.

This is a serious FBI investigation. Nothing right-wing about the FBI investigating our Democratic frontrunner. Nothing right-wing about the possibility that the FBI could recommend indictment and throw our Democratic party--and our election--into chaos.

This is a Democratic issue. One that the Democratic party should take seriously.

Not all of her supporters are acting like fools. But her sycophants who are in denial need to realize that by squelching rational and clear discussion about what this means for the Democratic party--that they are hurting our party.

There's nothing smart about sticking your head in the sand while our party faces a huge, unprecedented crisis.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
8. The problem is that denying her the nomination for what may not happen is
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:48 PM
May 2016

just as bad. It really stinks that this was not resolved a year ago.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
12. I agree with you on the timing
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

Who am I to tell the FBI to hurry up? I don't pretend to know what's happening on the inside.

They've been investigating her emails for a year now. In March, the FBI announced that they have completed the investigation of her emails and the only remaining tasks were interviewing her aids and Clinton.

The timing seems to suggest that this should be wrapped up sometime in June. That's my best guess. A good month for the aid interviews; a month for Clinton (May) and June to conclude.

The bulk of the work has been completed. The emails gave the FBI an electronic paper trail of exactly what happened. Those interviews weren't about gleaning facts about what happened. The FBI knows what happened. The interviews are to put the facts into context.

I would be surprised if this went past June.

And yes, it does stink that this is still ongoing. It's very rough on our party.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
32. True but she should drop out because she was under invesitgation
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

But I suppose she actually thinks she did not make any mistakes. All I know is that I saw people get kicked out of the military for just leaving "Confidential" material around. And that is much lower classification than Emails that where withheld from the server.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
36. Yes, but their last names aren't Clinton. And they don't have a file
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

stuffed with 20 years of, shall we say, opposition research.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
51. there is enough reason not to support her without the FBI problem, though.
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:53 AM
May 2016

She likely won't win a GE against Trump.

She doesn't support many progressive policy matters.

She has the highest untrustworthy rating any Democrat has ever had.

Her favorables are underwater by twenty percent or so, last I saw.

She uses this "persecution" as a shield. It's the old VRWC the Clintons have always used to play victim.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
15. I agree with everything you said.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:28 PM
May 2016

The response to this crisis defies logic. I don't want her indicted. I have no reason to. I just want the truth to see the light of day, sooner rather than later, for all our sakes.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
18. My fear is that the Democratic party will be unprepared for a crisis of epic proportions
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016

if the FBI does recommend indictment.

I would say that most people do not understand the FBI investigation into Clinton's email server; nor do they understand what she has done or the laws governing all of this.

If the FBI recommends indictment, she is done. Out of the race. This will all happen very quickly. Our party will be thrown into turmoil.

Meanwhile, because the Clinton glee club wanted to remain ignorant and in denial--our entire party will be gobsmacked and ignorant on the entire situation.

No one is preparing for the fact that Clinton will NOT release her delegates to Bernie. That's just not going to happen. She never will. I am a delegate who just participated at the District level and State is next month. Both Bernie and Hillary delegates--at this point--are loyal beyond measure. They are fiercely grounded in their camps. Hillary's delegates will do as she instructs. This could mean a new person being given her delegates.

This is not a situation that I want. Jesus! The potential chaos could foster disunity and upheaval that would almost hand the election to Trump.

And if we're standing around like a bunch of ignorant asses--who haven't done our due diligence--than I guess we deserve a Trump presidency!

We're not advocating for her indictment. We're advocating that Democrats be informed, so this doesn't destroy our party!!!

6chars

(3,967 posts)
28. the odds of that are quite minimal
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:08 PM
May 2016

if it happens, then Bernie can probably take the baton.

But people have predicted 37 of the last 0 indictments of Hillary, so maybe we can just cross that bridge when we come to it.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
29. I find it extremely frustrating to see a statement like this.
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

"the odds of that are quite minimal" How do you know this? I don't know it, you don't know it, unless you work for the FBI or DOJ. I don't want her indicted, I just want this to end before we are in a place of horrible damage to the Democratic party. If you think that she won't be indicted for political reasons, I find little comfort in that. It will still be a mess.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
67. it's a subjective judgment
Sun May 8, 2016, 02:50 AM
May 2016

How do you know the odds aren't minimal? From a lifetime of watching political scandals unfold, this one just doesn't seem to have much heft. It has been known for years that she had her own server, and they have known for quite a while what was on it. I don't expect the testimony of her advisors to incriminate her.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
35. Actually, the Party is preparing.
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:11 PM
May 2016

Just recently, Joe Biden's news profile has been elevated. He has discussed the primary (saying positive things about Bernie), he made a surprise visit to Iraq, and he had an audience with the Pope, all within the span of a few days.

Neither the Clinton campaign nor their DNC arm will release delegates to Bernie. Instead they will give them to Biden. One theory has it that they might offer Elizabeth Warren as Joe's running mate to mollify liberals and progressives, but I would be surprised if she accepted.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
50. I have noticed this about Joe Biden for a while now
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:43 AM
May 2016

I think "the powers that be" have known the score for a while now. Biden has been shooting his mouth off about how great Bernie is. He's even managed to get a few Hillary digs in. Honest Joe. That man seriously cannot keep a secret.

I was guessing that their plan would be to offer Bernie the VP slot. It's most likely the only way to unify the party and win the election.

After I read the facts; exactly what Clinton did and also the law, I about fell off my chair. She certainly broke several laws. She certainly deserves to be indicted. The FBI could easily recommend indictment. That's when I started to pay attention to what may be going on behind the scenes. You probably did the same thing. There's no doubt that Biden has been leveraged more. They did the same thing with Joe in the early fall when he was considering a run. We saw a spike in media appearances.

I really hope that Bernie supporters are steeled for the shitstorm that may be coming. I would guess sometime befor end of June, wouldn't you?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
53. Biden Bernie?
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:58 AM
May 2016

That's interesting.

I can tell you that Republicans think she will be indicted AFTER the convention, and then forced to step aside for Biden. In which case they expect to lose the GE to Biden.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
63. As far as the timeline on the investigation
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:29 AM
May 2016

in late March, the FBI announced that the investigation was nearing closure. The investigation and groundwork into HRC's emails and server were complete. Comey said there were two hurdles remaining: Interview Clinton's aids then interview Clinton.

It took them a month to interview several Clinton aids. All of April. Let's say it takes them all of May to interview Clinton. I bet this is wrapped up sometime before late June.

Comey has said the investigation work is complete. They have all of her emails. Those emails provide an electronic trail of everything they need to know. They have records of everything she did. They aren't interviewing people to ask them what they did. They're basically telling them...here's what we know happened. The interviews help the agents put into context the information they've gleaned from the emails.

I think we're going to know soon. I don't think this will drag into summer.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
64. I suspect that HRC is dragging her feet on the interview.
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:37 AM
May 2016

They said the FBI was trying to fit it in to her travel schedule...and perhaps she conveniently has no plans soon to be in D.C.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
52. she may have to be "persuaded" to release her delegates.
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:56 AM
May 2016

It could be part of a plea agreement, in order to avoid that chaos you describe that would rip the party up.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
87. Indictment isn't the benchmark for disqualification. Violation of security oath is enough
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:34 AM
May 2016

If she violated her nondisclosure agreement she can't be issued a security clearance. Nobody in government can receive classified documents without one. Not even the President. That is what the really deciding finding will be in Comey's report.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
24. I am with you
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:27 PM
May 2016

This is so Clinton like. There should have been no problem. The entire email set up was strange, but where I really have a problem is that, in spite of KNOWING their were many legitimate inquiries, she did no give copies to the SD when she left.

THAT Issue HAS NOTHING to do with classification. It has to do with transparency. It also left the SD with a mess. This is what I meant by so Clinton. It often is the people around them who trust them, who end up bearing more of the cost or burden than they do.

Still, the timeline leads to a conundrum. She has not been found guilty of anything at this point. This is her last shot of being President. It is not fair to ask her to stand fown. However, if this is not resolved, it can hurt. The saving grace is that Trump is a weak candidate.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
54. no one owes her anything because it is her last shot
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:59 AM
May 2016

She is the one that screwed things up for herself.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
73. If she did something illegal she should be indicted
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:52 AM
May 2016

Whether she intended to or not. Intent should not even be an issue in an investigation.

George II

(67,782 posts)
78. And yet, to use your very words, Sanders' "fanbase" and "fanatical supporters"....
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016

.....bring this up several times a day.

And get it right, please - the FBI does NOT NOT "recommend indictment", they simply investigate things and present their finding to the DOJ and/or prosecutors.

Can't win the nomination, so now Sanders' "fanbase" is trying to redefine the function and purpose of the FBI.

This will NOT win the nomination for Sanders, no how and no way.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
79. "Stop posting right-wing trash!" and "You're just wishing for an indictment"
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

They say, as they stick their fingers in their ears.

Jemmons

(711 posts)
7. She only lies to make people happy
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:46 PM
May 2016

Im sure her staff can write up an explanation that will satisfy the FBI.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
38. Well, "she was dumb and ignorant and high and mighty" may be her final judgment.
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

That's pretty well where it's at right now.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
42. Uh huh. .. We'll see how her stars align.
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

She's pushing it, now with the foundation making it global and and involving other countries. Pay to play indicates the Banana Republic we have become. Thanks Clintons...not.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
44. Well, that we don't know. But odds are better the Republicans already
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:23 PM
May 2016

have the impeachment papers drawn up. Now before you go off and say I wish her ill, save your words. I don't. Nor am I a "hater". But I do believe that she is not above the law, as I am sure you would concur.

So swearing in a President who is saying to the entire globe ... "prove it"... does not bode well. Her gender has no effect on me, but it does for lots of other young girls and women. Frankly, at best, she's a lousy role model.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
26. A former judge who has dealt with these security issues said that if you imporperly handled
Sat May 7, 2016, 03:04 PM
May 2016

classified information but say you didn't intend to . . . all he will hear is that you mishandled classified information. Whether you intended to or not does not matter in this area of the law.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
13. Not a surprise coming from Hillary supporters. Just look at their comments about our constitutional
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

right to protest.

They do not care about justice or our rights IF it hurts their candidate.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
19. You should care, if you care about the Democratic party
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

Being ignorant and unprepared--while our frontrunner faces a possible indictment--is foolish.

This is a scandal and a crisis that Hillary brought into our party. We didn't ask for this bullshit!

And her supporters don't want to talk about it. They want it ignored.

Well la-dee-frickin-da!! You want to remain ignorant and unprepared, do it by yourself.

Stop encouraging good Democrats to be ignorant fools who shouldn't care about the possibility of a political catastrophe within our own party--when our frontrunner may be recommended for indictment!

MichMan

(11,974 posts)
6. So not cleared apparently?
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

Based on multiple posts the last couple days, you would have thought she had already been cleared of all wrong doing.

Why are they interviewing her then.............?

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
9. Not only cleared, but canonized. Then she ascended bodily into Heaven.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

She only returned to earth so save us unworthy peasants from the monstrous evils of full healthcare, a clean environment, peace, economic justice, and a functioning democracy.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
10. she didn't do it, nobody saw her do it, and you can't prove anything
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:57 PM
May 2016

it's the Bart Simpson defense to a "T"

 

Abouttime

(675 posts)
31. You're right
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:46 PM
May 2016

No way in hell the Obama controlled DOJ charges the D nominee right before the election.
It would be political suicide for our party. Sorry Hillary gets a pass even though she showed gross disregard for the law, anyone else would be making a plea deal trying to keep themselves out of Federal prison.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
41. Now we're on the last step. I was wondering how long it was going to take before
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:41 PM
May 2016

this gem surfaced. Now that Hillary's criics are forced to abandon the "Indictiment coming any day now, just wait - you'll see" I guess they have to move on to "The game was fixed" (Kind of like the same thing we've been hearing about all the Primary elections Bernie has lost?). I'm sure you have something you can point to that would prove what you're saying. Maybe you could point to something Obama said, or Janet Lynch said, or James Comey said?? I know you wouldn't just put something as serious as that out there just because.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
34. Christmas-card-gate lives!
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:55 PM
May 2016
For those of you too young to remember, the Clinton years were a parade of ridiculous "investigations" into things like whether aide Vince Foster was murdered by a nefarious conspiracy. The Republican Congress heard 140 hours of testimony -- repeat, 140 hours of testimony -- on the burning question of whether the Clintons had misused the White House Christmas card list.,


http://prospect.org/article/crank-outrage-machine

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
37. Good.. sounds like they are wrapping this up.
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

Get this nonsense over with so we can focus on the general against Trump.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
45. I think she is already working on that...as in trying to cajole Republican
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:29 PM
May 2016

voters. Seems I read that George Will is helping in that effort. Another cool sidekick to go along with Kissinger.

But, she'll likely get further with them than with the Left. She is one of them, which is why she's not one of us. Pretty simple.

Nonsense. Indeed.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
60. I don't think she'll have any problem getting
Sun May 8, 2016, 01:16 AM
May 2016

corporatist and warmongering celebrity Republicans, like George Will, on her side. She's highly revered by the neocons who planned the Iraq War. The chief architect of the Iraq war, Robert Kagan, endorsed her.

So, these powerbroker Republicans and the celebrity pundits--she's got them.

Here's the problem. Hillary will have serious problems attracting average, Joe-six-pack Republican, because sorry, they've all gone feral. Hillary erroneously believes that there are "Alex P Keaton" Reagan conservatives out there in America, just waiting to vote for her. So Hillary will wade into the dark side to find business-centric types--who are fiscally conservative, moderate when it comes to social issues, but in the tank for low taxes and corporate-friendly policies.

Ummmm...rabid talk radio and crazy-paranoid Fox News have morphed most Republicans into howl-at-the-moon ingrates who think Obama wants to confiscate their Bibles and their guns.

Hillary may get some Republican powerbrokers and corporate mucky mucks on her side. She may even get a truckload of their money.

But oh honey, when it comes to sane, centrist, corporate Republican voters--that well is nearly dry!

Right-wing radio was intended to manipulate and control the Republican voting block--using fear, paranoia, racism, sexism and hair-on-fire daily crises. that. Nearly 20 years of this has taken a toll.

Furthermore, winger media has fomented such rage and personal hate against Hillary. They think she killed Vince Foster and hold out hope that she'll be prosecuted for Travelgate.

I don't know what HRC thinks she's going to find on the other side of the political rainbow, but she's not likely to find votes.

This is highly disturbing that it has come to such desperate, misguided strategies like this, in the Dem party. Especially with Trump being the Republican nominee.

It's just crazy.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
68. This election could be an historic opportunity to convert many moderate Republicans to our side..
Sun May 8, 2016, 07:16 AM
May 2016

much like Reagan did to us back in the 80's.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
86. Bill Clinton already tried that. It's called the Third Way...and that, IMO,
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:21 AM
May 2016

is the definition of Republican-lite. So there's that.

Are there more voters? Or is it just about the donors. She needs boatloads of money, and I imagine her usual suspect donors are not giving to the extent they were when she was to be crowned, as all Establishment Democrats graciously gave her pass after pass and didn't challenge her.

So I'll say it ... Clinton v. 2, you're no Reagan. Bill, he kind of was.

George II

(67,782 posts)
77. How many times are you guys going to post this on DU? This is OLD news.
Sun May 8, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

And Hillary Clinton will STILL be the Democratic nominee and be elected President in November.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
88. Word on street, if Obama's DOJ continues to stall, the republican house will impeach her
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:37 AM
May 2016

first ....as soon as she arrives. Oh, so much to look forward to in our country. More wars, cuts to social nets, and more. Working with Paul Ryan.

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