Trump would never get my vote. But I kinda like freedom of speech.

I guess we'll find out who is the richest of the two?

You have the freedom to either abide by the rules or take a hike, just as it is for me or any other member.

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You have a harder time with those rules than most.

And I'm not your bro. You must be referring to your aggressive hillary co-horts who have as many hides as you...

to pass the time on the DU, seeing how your candidate is no longer really viable...

But really, with the 5-and-you're-out system gone, it doesn't matter.

Because you just don't give a damn about your attitude, others can go fuck themselves, is that it? That's going to work really well for Hillary.

Enduring months of underhanded, dishonest, sometimes sexist, criticisms around here, it's a wonder every Clinton supported wasn't run off, though I'm sure that was the goal.

3,000,000 votes, 291 pledged delegates. The voters have spoken.

But go ahead, live in the same delusional realm that allows you to believe Hillary is progressive.

Really, you get banned for merely disagreeing no matter how civil you are with your language.

DU has become a minefield of special groups that can ban you for anything. If you are not very, very careful, you end up getting banned almost immediately after joining by some group or another. Since I'm an old timer, I kind of know about which groups like to ban more often then others and I know how to keep them off my screen. But for newbies DU has become a minefield.

Let's stop this silly banning.

OK, go ahead and ban me for daring to disagree.

I think a lot of posters I respect and wouldn't want to see go risk getting the pizza and I think that sucks.

It's not the end of the world people.

As is my understanding as long as I am not advocating against any DEMOCRAT and as long is it's still the PRIMARIES......

What I said is not against any rules.

Once the nominee is decided what I say can't be against that nominee and IF that is Hillary R. Clinton, I will have absolutely nothing to say one way or the other about her.

I have read posts here at DU for years before signing up again for an account...I forgot my other one since it had been so long....and I have always found reads that I have liked and will surely be able to do so doing the General IF she is the nominee.

P.S. Don't take comfort in your belief that if one equates the two as being the different sides of the same coin that one cannot act in accordance to the rules.

Thank You

I believe you were trying to say something else.

Evil cannot be extinguished by evil, only consumed eventually by the greater evil and since Hillary is the lesser evil, she will be consumed and make even greater the great evil that is the immortal Deity!



[font size="5"; color="2E8B57"][center]Cthulhu 2016 [/center][/font]

because no matter which lesser evil you choose (if you choose evil at all) the greater evil will only consume it and run things anyway! Lets cut out the ceremonial middle-man (or woman) and get on with the inevitable destruction and mayhem!

Vote Cthulhu which is the greatest evil if you like evil at all, why not, he will only consume all lesser evils and run things regardless.




[font size="4"; color="8B0000"][center]OR try something different - Vote for the Good Instead![/font][/center]

A very unusual choice these days after all of the "vote lesser evil" training we've received, but as I said, the degree of evil matters little if you choose to vote evil in any form rather than voting for the greater good.

Experience has taught us that the lesser evil is always consumed by the greater and the greatest evil wins every time in the end. Our training is based on a lie! It is time to vote for our best interests rather than against them! It is the only way to avoid the ever greater evil that grows worse with each passing 2 year election cycle, soon, the new corporate gilded age will be complete if we don't stop voting evil, an age that will make Dickensian times look like a time of prosperity for all. The choice resides within each of use, IMO you have chosen well!

well, if it were me I would have some sleepless nights.

Unfortunately, for this purpose, I live in Ohio. If Trump "wins" Ohio (like GWB "won" Florida in 2000) and I helped make it close enough to steal, I would not be proud of myself. If I lived in California, I might well vote Green but I don't.

of the first on the list that fell since it was created (I do not know the original graphic artist).
I do intend to cross off those that fall as they fall and repost it each time, my hope is that the last form of government standing, the one that will likely use it's power to cement itself as permanent for a time will be neither Fascism, nor Oligarchy.

I am already quite ill, with less than ten years to live at best, as little as perhaps five and do not wish to live under either of those authoritarian evil governments, that will each in their own way, cause great harm and even kill many those not endowed with power or wealth.

I want to live under a government that sees the working class and poor people as humans, not cannon fodder, a base of power, mindless followers or commodities.

I an a Democrat and like FDR and Democrats after him, (until the early nineties) I believe in a party of the people. A party of the working class and an equality of civil liberty.

I was born and raised poor and then working poor, and until my loss of health combined with the neoliberal dream of job outsourcing and tax cuts made manifest by Democrats uniting with Republicans for both, I had reached the American dream and then watch as it was denied me and my class - the dream of a blue collar middle class happy American.

I am now back to my extreme poor roots and already see the rise of homelessness and hunger in my own community in the richest country in the world and quite frankly.

Enough is enough!

At least i always have assumed it that at theocracy was a government was controlled by one supreme belief. Some of those other rules seem to have been interchangeable, like are gods, special ceremony, and other secondary idealism's.

The supreme belief in this theocracy is MONEY or whatever interchangeable idea for that concept you have. We believe the promise of it's power can eventually repair all or transpose anything. In essence we believe in a Myth of promise

Each and everything you can try in put in front of it gets put in the back seat eventually.

Especially after all the shet that has been posted about Senator Sanders.

even sites run by Skinner and DU's Hillary supporters where that is not the case. You choose where you post.

And "Bernie Supporters = Trump Supporters"



I'm gonna support her when she's the nominee (note, yes, I said when) but the primaries aren't over yet.


And the incessant "fuck you warrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhllllllbbbbbllll berniebros" attitude of some of the Hill Folk is not helpful or unifying or anything, it's just fucking obnoxious.

I think Sanders has run and continues to run a strong and popular campaign based on important ideas and policy proposals. These policies, supported by millions of people, should and be included in the democratic party platform and by democratic candidates in local state and federal elections. I want to see thousands more like Sanders running for office and winning. It's the best hope we have for reducing the terrible problem of income inequality in our country. We must put people before profits. We must reduce our bloated military budget and concentrate on peace and prosperity at home and abroad.

My state has a Governor who is right down the line on progressive policies, who is the first openly bisexual Governor in US History, who is an enthusiastic supporter of my state's legalization of recreational cannabis, which is already bringing in multiple times the expected tax revenues after only a couple months.

A lot of the problem many of us have with the party at a national level is, it needs to get outside of this particular Eastern Seaboard beltway conventional wisdom echo chamber, that unfortunately is exemplified by the train wreck currently serving as the DNC chair.

My area is majority progressive. We have a very liberal mayor and city council. I love voting for the most progressive available candidate in every election. I've seen the positive effects of those candidates winning, like a living wage and strong urban planning that doesn't sell out to the highest bidders with the cheapest jobs. I hope more and more people influenced by the Sanders campaign will see what good effects can be achieved locally with activism and voting.

Maybe the rest of the country, particuarly the Eastern part, will finally catch a clue from us. Because we had good turnout even in 2010 and 2014, and bucked the trend nationally.

maybe we're doing something right that those guys aren't. Just a thought.

Hillary's record and policy stances are no where near liberal.

Oddly enough, she may be to the right of Trump on trade agreements if we can believe what either of them say at any given moment.

I'm not saying she is equal to Trump, he's a complete nutjob, an entertainer, a circus clown with no decorum what so ever.

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than this.

right wing populist. This was back when Southern conservatives were still mainly Democrats. Wallace pushed the same white working class buttons that Trump pushes.

A few liberal positions, e.g. strengthen Social Security (it's for you 'real Americans' who get sore out of SSA because you've had better jobs paying into it). Then you go after all the minorities who are trying to get a piece of that 'real American' (read - 'white male) economic action to use as scapegoats to blame for the way the country is changing.

I think she is more like someone else who was willing to say and do anything to get elected and was just as willing to use dirty tricks.

Its a lifechanger.

small.

People are forgetting, this isn't an online reality simulation.