2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Goes On Wall Street Fundraising Spree, Picks Up Bush Donors
"Though she was never a stranger to Wall Street, it appears now that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is confident enough in her mathematical advantage over Senator Bernie Sanders that she has resumed taking money from Wall Street, with a vengeance.
The Wall Street Journal reports that Clinton has raised $4.2 million from Wall Street, $344,000 just in March. WSJ also reports that an analysis of the donor records reveals that donors for former Governor Jeb Bush and Senator Marco Rubio have shifted to Clinton as their preferred candidates left the presidential race.
Former Secretary Clintons campaign staff has reportedly been making calls to top Bush donors in recent days in the aftermath of Donald Trump securing the Republican presidential nomination, but the overtures likely came sooner, and for good reason.
Hillary Clintons policies closely align with moderate Republicans and DC conservatives. She is neoconservative on foreign policy, liberal yet flexible on social issues, and pro-Big Business on most everything else. That Hillary Clinton ever generated so much antipathy from the Republican establishment is a testament to how deranging and opportunistic partisanship can be."
https://shadowproof.com/2016/05/09/hillary-clinton-goes-on-wall-street-fundraising-spree/
artyteacher
(598 posts)We're gonna need every cent we can get in fighting the Nazi and the end of the planet.
Turin_C3PO
(14,033 posts)as long as she doesn't shift right in her positions.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)she's already there
arcane1
(38,613 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)oasis
(49,401 posts)or a primary contest.
KPN
(15,649 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Most of her policies align with most of those that vote for her. To us, there is no "liberal" and there is no "progressive", there are only Democrats. Might come as a surprise to Bernie-ites, but this isn't our first election that we have participated in. We were for "everybody" before Bernie-ites were even born.
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arikara
(5,562 posts)She's a hawk, and a big business Wall Street lover. If she gets in, expect lots of bombing, and lots of cuts to social programs.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)msongs
(67,435 posts)bernie actually DOES want repub support, just like hillary does
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)These are donors not voters that Hillary is going after.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)perhaps it was her famed planning ahead that led to announce how she'd be willing to compromise abortion
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)They know a disaster wearing a Tribble hat when they see one.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)neoconservative on foreign policy, liberal yet flexible on social issues, and pro-Big Business on most everything else." The very definition of The Third Way. Give em a little social justice while you are busy picking their pockets.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)She's going to need all the $$$ she can get for the campaign.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)At this point, that's what matters most of all. And if Bernie's supporters believe that a Hillary victory would be worse than a Trump victory, then they have lost all sense of proportion and reality.
Bernie's campaign is over. He could win every pledged delegate from here on and he would still lose.
I and tens of millions of other Democrats are focused on the general election. Because if Trump is elected, a man who considers as an option, dropping the nuclear bomb on the Mideast or Europe, we are in much deeper trouble than anyone can fully realize.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Especially when it's not needed. We aren't even outside of the primary and she's swinging to the far right.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)No she isn't. She's moving to the middle which is where she belongs to win the election. The voting public is not progressive. Too few are to win elections.
She's doing what she needs to do to win. That's the primary objective.
There is a reason why the real results of the progressive movement in the last few decades have been disappointing. The movement is too extreme. Bernie's true agenda is one that can't win.
So what can we do? Well, you can continue to insist not to compromise for progress, to be a Bernie, an ideologue with admirable objectives. But in terms of real results, Bernie hasn't much to show. It's because he is an ideologue and won't settle for less than what he believes. He sacrifices the good by insisting on the perfect.
It's very admirable. But as a result, very little is achieved. I admire Bernie's commitment to his objectives, but he's not the kind of guy who will ever get real results. Because he won't compromise. He won't settle for incrementalism - the small steps by steps to get a result. Because he insists on his result. Which is not possible in this country.
So you won't get in bed with the Bushes, or whatever. You won't settle for a bit of progress and so the movement stalls and no real progress gets done. That's been the history of the movement, and it looks like that history is its future.
Bernie has a real opportunity here. He has started a movement with real potential to achieve great results. But he, like the movement, can't abide by the foundational rule of politics - compromise.
I'm compromising with Hillary. Because it is the best bet to achieve the only objective that matters - defeating Trump.
DerekG
(2,935 posts)"No matter who wins, we lose."
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Go Godzilla!!!!
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CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)That's how national, state, and local campaigns get funded, and even more than the presidency, we need to get Congress back. We need more governors in the statehouses and more state legislators to vote against things like obscene absurdities "bathroom laws".
Blue Owl
(50,489 posts)n/t