2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMore simply put.
If Hillary loses to Trump it won't be my fault, cause I will have voted for her.
See votes get counted and the person with the most votes in each state wins the totality of electoral votes in that state. Once a majority of electoral votes are reached, that person becomes president.
Maybe people need a lesson on how one becomes president of the US.
And don't think I subscribe to the opinion that she will lose. I think she will kick trumps ass. But don't expect people to beg for your vote. You go on now and do whatever it is you would like. But stop blaming other people for your failure to vote for the dem nominee (Hillary).
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)I will also blame the Democratic Party structure.
If Hillary wins the nomination and the GE, I will credit them both for their strategy.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)If it were necessary to stop a Trump Presidency I would.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I'll skip the Hillary rah-rah for you.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)A Clinton supporter has started a thread saying they'll never vote for Sanders.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511939772
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)All it takes is one terrorist incident to frighten people into voting for Trump.
boston bean
(36,223 posts)Either you vote for Hillary or you don't. I guess that was the point.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)We can just watch and hope America doesn't give us another Bush.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)we didn't appreciate the lawless buffoon we had until the grandaddy of buffoons came along.
Oh, dear. I actually read most of a pretty solid book back then just trying to understand the religious and conservative roots of Bush's American exceptionalism ideology. My anxiety was sparked by a picture of Bush sitting at some summit looking like he thought he was Emperor of Earth or something, forcing far better men to pander to a cluelessness that had to equal Trump's today.
Of course, I had no idea a Trump could be in our future. Glad to know others are crossing their fingers for us. We seem to need all the help we can get.
"Yo, Blair!"
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)That his reputation could sink even further by endorsing Trump.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)personal conceit or he could actually be right would depend on the person.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)boston bean
(36,223 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)I'm not an American. Not everyone on DU is. I can vote in British elections, but as far as the American presidential race goes I'm just an observer.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I enjoy hearing from people from places besides the USA.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)The Philippines has just elected a right wing nutter, but I'm not that bothered. It's not going to affect us in Europe, Donald Trump is another matter entirely.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I hope we on the left turn out in droves in November. Not just to put a democrat in the white house, but also to get a much more liberal congress. I'm doing my part encouraging friends and relatives to vote in every election. They really do matter, everywhere.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)The last thing the World needs is another disastrous presidency like that of George W Bush.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)from this side either. Bernie's a left wing progressive, which makes him infinitely better than any candidate of today's dysfunctionally hard-right GOP.
Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)I hope yours is the one that wins out.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Convention vote will become our nominee. She needs 148 delegates and honestly with the number of undeclared super delegates who will declare for Hillary, she has the required delegates. Sanders need in percentage goes up with every primary and winning a primary by the percentages he currently is receiving is not netting the number of delegates to get the nomination.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We are 100% responsible for our own choices.
But don't worry. Rachel Maddow says she has no idea what Bernie "wants," but it seems quite likely he wants some things, will push for them, and will arrive at a deal.
Itm, Sanders made a major point in his speech yesterday that we have to make sure Trump is not elected president. "We must defeat Trump." - Bernie Sanders
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Most citizens are uninformed and not engaged. And there is, perhaps unfortunately, no duty on the citizenship to engage.
It it the job of the candidate to build a winning coalition. That requires educating the those groups as to when and how to vote and why to vote for them. There is not assumption that the candidate will automatically receive the votes. Of course, there are active voters in each party who can be depended on to vote. They are the base from which the candidate builds their coalition.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)Damn, but this argument of yours has grown ripe and long since rotted.
There will be one person to blame. Only one. And she is, as of right now, not the nominee.
Draw your own conclusions.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I'll have to vote for Alfred E. Newman.