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boston bean

(36,223 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 05:43 AM May 2016

More simply put.

If Hillary loses to Trump it won't be my fault, cause I will have voted for her.

See votes get counted and the person with the most votes in each state wins the totality of electoral votes in that state. Once a majority of electoral votes are reached, that person becomes president.

Maybe people need a lesson on how one becomes president of the US.

And don't think I subscribe to the opinion that she will lose. I think she will kick trumps ass. But don't expect people to beg for your vote. You go on now and do whatever it is you would like. But stop blaming other people for your failure to vote for the dem nominee (Hillary).

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More simply put. (Original Post) boston bean May 2016 OP
+1. I too think she kicks Trump's rear. Once Sanders is out, polls will reflect that. Hoyt May 2016 #1
I'll blame Hillary if she loses, not you. virtualobserver May 2016 #2
So you will vote for Hillary in the GE? boston bean May 2016 #3
That would depend on the choices available virtualobserver May 2016 #9
Couldn't ask for more than that. Hortensis May 2016 #11
It's not just one way. Bad Dog May 2016 #4
I wouldn't worry to much about that. Sanders has lost the nomination already. boston bean May 2016 #5
As an outsider I'm very worried. Bad Dog May 2016 #6
You can only worry about yourself. boston bean May 2016 #7
Those of us who don't have a vote can't do either. Bad Dog May 2016 #16
About now, Bush is probably chuckling over how Hortensis May 2016 #19
It says something when Dubya thinks. Bad Dog May 2016 #22
It certainly does, but I guess whether that's just a Hortensis May 2016 #24
How much further does he think his reputation can sink? Bad Dog May 2016 #26
Sounds like we both rate it personal conceit. Hortensis May 2016 #27
Who has taken your vote? boston bean May 2016 #20
I never had one in the first place. Bad Dog May 2016 #21
Cheers. lovemydog May 2016 #23
Thank you. Bad Dog May 2016 #25
Understood. lovemydog May 2016 #28
I agree. Bad Dog May 2016 #31
Fwiw, I don't approve of that kind of over-reaction Hortensis May 2016 #12
There's a lot of people like you who can see the bigger picture. Bad Dog May 2016 #17
Soon and very soon Hillary will reach the required delegate count and on the first Thinkingabout May 2016 #8
It is the candidate/nominee's job to build a winning coalition. Full stop. morningfog May 2016 #10
And it's a voter's duty to be a good citizen. Hortensis May 2016 #13
That is far too overly simplistic. morningfog May 2016 #15
Makes more sense. Thanks. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #14
She was a terrible bet, bound to lose. whatchamacallit May 2016 #18
It won't be my fault if she loses, either. bvf May 2016 #29
Sorry, if Hillary is the nominee--there won't be a Democrat on the ballot. Chan790 May 2016 #30
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
2. I'll blame Hillary if she loses, not you.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:02 AM
May 2016

I will also blame the Democratic Party structure.

If Hillary wins the nomination and the GE, I will credit them both for their strategy.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
6. As an outsider I'm very worried.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:28 AM
May 2016

All it takes is one terrorist incident to frighten people into voting for Trump.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
7. You can only worry about yourself.
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:31 AM
May 2016

Either you vote for Hillary or you don't. I guess that was the point.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
16. Those of us who don't have a vote can't do either.
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:38 AM
May 2016

We can just watch and hope America doesn't give us another Bush.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. About now, Bush is probably chuckling over how
Wed May 11, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

we didn't appreciate the lawless buffoon we had until the grandaddy of buffoons came along.

Oh, dear. I actually read most of a pretty solid book back then just trying to understand the religious and conservative roots of Bush's American exceptionalism ideology. My anxiety was sparked by a picture of Bush sitting at some summit looking like he thought he was Emperor of Earth or something, forcing far better men to pander to a cluelessness that had to equal Trump's today.

Of course, I had no idea a Trump could be in our future. Glad to know others are crossing their fingers for us. We seem to need all the help we can get.

"Yo, Blair!"

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
22. It says something when Dubya thinks.
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:12 AM
May 2016

That his reputation could sink even further by endorsing Trump.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. It certainly does, but I guess whether that's just a
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:24 AM
May 2016

personal conceit or he could actually be right would depend on the person.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
21. I never had one in the first place.
Thu May 12, 2016, 03:11 AM
May 2016

I'm not an American. Not everyone on DU is. I can vote in British elections, but as far as the American presidential race goes I'm just an observer.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
25. Thank you.
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:24 AM
May 2016

The Philippines has just elected a right wing nutter, but I'm not that bothered. It's not going to affect us in Europe, Donald Trump is another matter entirely.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
28. Understood.
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:37 AM
May 2016

I hope we on the left turn out in droves in November. Not just to put a democrat in the white house, but also to get a much more liberal congress. I'm doing my part encouraging friends and relatives to vote in every election. They really do matter, everywhere.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
31. I agree.
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

The last thing the World needs is another disastrous presidency like that of George W Bush.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Fwiw, I don't approve of that kind of over-reaction
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:48 AM
May 2016

from this side either. Bernie's a left wing progressive, which makes him infinitely better than any candidate of today's dysfunctionally hard-right GOP.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
17. There's a lot of people like you who can see the bigger picture.
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:43 AM
May 2016

I hope yours is the one that wins out.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Soon and very soon Hillary will reach the required delegate count and on the first
Wed May 11, 2016, 06:32 AM
May 2016

Convention vote will become our nominee. She needs 148 delegates and honestly with the number of undeclared super delegates who will declare for Hillary, she has the required delegates. Sanders need in percentage goes up with every primary and winning a primary by the percentages he currently is receiving is not netting the number of delegates to get the nomination.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. And it's a voter's duty to be a good citizen.
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

We are 100% responsible for our own choices.

But don't worry. Rachel Maddow says she has no idea what Bernie "wants," but it seems quite likely he wants some things, will push for them, and will arrive at a deal.

Itm, Sanders made a major point in his speech yesterday that we have to make sure Trump is not elected president. "We must defeat Trump." - Bernie Sanders

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. That is far too overly simplistic.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

Most citizens are uninformed and not engaged. And there is, perhaps unfortunately, no duty on the citizenship to engage.

It it the job of the candidate to build a winning coalition. That requires educating the those groups as to when and how to vote and why to vote for them. There is not assumption that the candidate will automatically receive the votes. Of course, there are active voters in each party who can be depended on to vote. They are the base from which the candidate builds their coalition.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
29. It won't be my fault if she loses, either.
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:48 AM
May 2016

Damn, but this argument of yours has grown ripe and long since rotted.

There will be one person to blame. Only one. And she is, as of right now, not the nominee.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
30. Sorry, if Hillary is the nominee--there won't be a Democrat on the ballot.
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:53 AM
May 2016

I'll have to vote for Alfred E. Newman.

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