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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:00 PM May 2016

Does anybody else think Jane Sanders has political aspirations?

Her obsession with being in front of the media is one factor making me believe this. Few wives of candidates are as visible as she. Maybe Jane's ambitions are the reason he keeps on keeping on, despite the obvious maths.

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Does anybody else think Jane Sanders has political aspirations? (Original Post) MoonRiver May 2016 OP
Isn't that how Hillary started? JonathanRackham May 2016 #1
Yes. I'm not saying it's wrong, just observing. MoonRiver May 2016 #3
Absolutely not. Better read up a bit before making such false assumptions tonyt53 May 2016 #8
What difference does it make? JonathanRackham May 2016 #24
Being an activist myself, I will not hold that against her! MoonRiver May 2016 #28
for goldwater n/t leeroysphitz May 2016 #71
What's that word for when it's OK when I do it, but not OK when you do it? Octafish May 2016 #43
Hillary. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #44
lol JSup May 2016 #54
+1 leeroysphitz May 2016 #72
+1 silvershadow May 2016 #76
lol Hiraeth May 2016 #2
She's eyeing those speaker fees. Skink May 2016 #4
Go for it. JonathanRackham May 2016 #7
Who'd have her? (And for those who may ... would it be worth it?) NurseJackie May 2016 #20
absolutely reddread May 2016 #5
Does anyone think Hillary supporters will abandon Logical Fallacies in favor of discussing issues? AgingAmerican May 2016 #6
Issues become a non-factor for both sides about five months ago Blue_Adept May 2016 #11
Issues haven't been a factor for Hillary supporters in over a year AgingAmerican May 2016 #12
It's not immune from both sides Blue_Adept May 2016 #14
Her supporters have NEVER been willing to discuss issues AgingAmerican May 2016 #19
Her VOCAL supporters, sure Blue_Adept May 2016 #22
I have not found a single Hillary supporter willing to discuss issues AgingAmerican May 2016 #25
not a single one? C'mon, that's hyperbole and undercuts the overall argument Blue_Adept May 2016 #27
Zero AgingAmerican May 2016 #46
Issues like "Sanders does better against Trump according to polls"? brooklynite May 2016 #13
Issues like the economy, fracking, war AgingAmerican May 2016 #18
Issues like $17 trillion in debt over ten years. Thinkingabout May 2016 #52
Issues like "choice to be made between a woman, her physician and her family." bettyellen May 2016 #79
I don't think so. trudyco May 2016 #9
One reason I thinkthe media blocked him out lunasun May 2016 #31
The only evidence I've seen is marrying the Bern The Second Stone May 2016 #10
Jane's a "hottie?" MoonRiver May 2016 #29
He is smiling , older hotties can still be hot ....esp to older men! lunasun May 2016 #32
Well, ok then! MoonRiver May 2016 #38
Hill's a hottie too. The Second Stone May 2016 #40
When she first entered the WH I thought she was gorgeous. MoonRiver May 2016 #45
Having her for POTUS will finally be like unleashing the big dog The Second Stone May 2016 #48
Yes, I can't wait to experience all the awesome progressive things her presidency will bring us! MoonRiver May 2016 #49
E. Roosevelt, H Clinton , j Sanders, why do some want wives in the background and quiet?Even M Obama lunasun May 2016 #15
If you think that Eleanor was in the background and quiet, you don't know The Second Stone May 2016 #50
Well - that would be one way to get people to hate her, LOL. And me to like her. bettyellen May 2016 #16
Obsession? Attention hungry? Clinging to hubby's coattails? farleftlib May 2016 #17
they dont mess around. the talking points are always addressing their specific weak spots reddread May 2016 #37
I hope she has aspirations hollowdweller May 2016 #21
Her personality is rather off-putting Tarc May 2016 #23
Your hatred is all-consuming. frylock May 2016 #34
Only Palin-esque in some respects Tarc May 2016 #36
A new low. Seeing any resemblance with Jane Sanders to Sarah Palin riderinthestorm May 2016 #56
Oh, poor you Tarc May 2016 #57
Palin. You think Jane Sanders is comparable to Sarah Palin. riderinthestorm May 2016 #59
Lol, unbunch your tighty whities, bro Tarc May 2016 #75
Ah, I didn't realize I was speaking with a child riderinthestorm May 2016 #77
Such a stellar role model. Tarc May 2016 #78
How can you even use them in the same sentence? They are polar opposites! jillan May 2016 #63
No, but what if she did? Vinca May 2016 #26
No. I think she's just very passionate about supporting her husband and the movement polly7 May 2016 #30
Well this is fucking rich. frylock May 2016 #33
She has political aspirations for Bernie and she loves and believes in him Armstead May 2016 #35
I don't. I read that she really didn't want him to run. I think they have her out front because she Lucinda May 2016 #39
She's an advisor to his campaign Matariki May 2016 #41
I know! Can you imagine her as First Lady? She might run for the Senate! Octafish May 2016 #42
Hah, perfect. nt malokvale77 May 2016 #53
I think she's a smart lady. Adrahil May 2016 #47
No. LWolf May 2016 #51
"few wives candidates." Yet Hillary was always a hugely and visible and heard part of Bill's Todays_Illusion May 2016 #55
She's in it for the money KingFlorez May 2016 #58
NO. snowy owl May 2016 #60
I think she's keeping herself too busy to give us their taxes returns Hekate May 2016 #61
No, not at all. jillan May 2016 #62
Her corruption, unethical dealing and immoral dealings will be a problem Corporate666 May 2016 #64
Yeah just think how much presidential experience this is giving her. If Bernie wins leeroysphitz May 2016 #73
I think she's just milking the campaign funds she's socking away. synergie May 2016 #65
You are rude and insensitive! Did Mrs. Sanders come across rude like you? akbacchus_BC May 2016 #66
i think she is similar to bill Clinton JI7 May 2016 #67
SO you think she should remain whistler162 May 2016 #68
Wow, that was an amazing stretch! MoonRiver May 2016 #80
This Vermonter says none at all. It's not how Vermont works cali May 2016 #69
She isn't but I trust her on that pathway more than I'd trust Bill Clinton's wife. Vote2016 May 2016 #70
Quit being sexist Kittycat May 2016 #74
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
8. Absolutely not. Better read up a bit before making such false assumptions
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:06 PM
May 2016

She was an activist even in her college years.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. Who'd have her? (And for those who may ... would it be worth it?)
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

Ugh! There's nothing about her that I find to be appealing or interesting at all. (And I'll just leave it at that before I say too much.)

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
5. absolutely
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

they will bear fruit.
oh shit, sorry, I missed the "obsession" angle of your sexist hypocrisy.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
6. Does anyone think Hillary supporters will abandon Logical Fallacies in favor of discussing issues?
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:04 PM
May 2016

It won't happen because cognitive dissonance demands they bridge the gap between reality and her policies with crap like this OP.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
11. Issues become a non-factor for both sides about five months ago
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:16 PM
May 2016

Everything since january is all about scoring points.

Which is how almost every primary season goes.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. Issues haven't been a factor for Hillary supporters in over a year
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

Her supporters refuse to discuss them.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
14. It's not immune from both sides
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

The most vocal supporters on both sides are not the one discussing the issues. Just how it goes.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
22. Her VOCAL supporters, sure
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:25 PM
May 2016

If you're saying that ALL of them are like that, then you're missing out on a great deal of discussion that has and does happen.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
25. I have not found a single Hillary supporter willing to discuss issues
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:30 PM
May 2016

You would think the most vocal would be the most informed. The REASON they are so vocal without a willingness to discuss issues is because of cognitive dissonance.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
18. Issues like the economy, fracking, war
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:21 PM
May 2016

Taxes, stuff like that. Not rhetoric.

The level of cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics from Hillary's supporters is utterly baffling

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
79. Issues like "choice to be made between a woman, her physician and her family."
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

Who the fuck is he suggesting get between a woman and her doctor- her "family"? WTFingF?

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
9. I don't think so.
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

I hardly ever see her. She looks so middle class it's awesome!

I think Bernie is excited that the progressive side of Dems is alive and well. He's realizing that there is a more than a single presidency going on here. It's the start of a movement to take back the Democratic party. Also, Hillary is actively under investigation by the FBI. Perhaps the FBI will actually do it's job.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
31. One reason I thinkthe media blocked him out
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

originally,is because of her .

Media is all marketing mavbis and her archetype has "appeal"

"She looks so middle class it's awesome! "

She looks very in the middle everyday women
Or like a nice teacher you had in high school or something
She has great projection, and many could relate to her image
And right or wrong reason to go to the polls,, that would mean votes for him.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
10. The only evidence I've seen is marrying the Bern
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

much like that hottie married Kucinich. (Way to go Dennis and Bernie, you give this wanna be cradle robber hope.)

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
45. When she first entered the WH I thought she was gorgeous.
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

She has aged very well and is still quite pretty I think.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
48. Having her for POTUS will finally be like unleashing the big dog
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:19 PM
May 2016

With all she has learned, and with her elect-ability (that is, she can get into the White House), I suspect that we will have a lot of victories like the LGBT people have in the past decade.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
15. E. Roosevelt, H Clinton , j Sanders, why do some want wives in the background and quiet?Even M Obama
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

couldn't talk about obesity with out it being viewed as political
If you notice it. and think it odd that is a comment right there imo. I find her natural and not obssesive
The ones that decorate and are quiet
.are always fondly viewed by those observers

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
50. If you think that Eleanor was in the background and quiet, you don't know
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:23 PM
May 2016

history, and that she had a newspaper column and radio show. She taught FDR how to care about poor people. She was also the first Roosevelt to address the American people after Pearl Harbor. An utterly remarkable American of any age, and worthy of our admiration.

Michelle Obama never wanted to be First Lady, but she has understood duty and responsibility for talent, her own and her husband's quite well.

As for Hillary Clinton, she has always had talent and ambition. The right hates her even more than they hated Eleanor Roosevelt for just that reason.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
17. Obsession? Attention hungry? Clinging to hubby's coattails?
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

Projection isn't just for movie theaters these days.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
37. they dont mess around. the talking points are always addressing their specific weak spots
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:59 PM
May 2016

by projecting them on Bernie Sanders.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
21. I hope she has aspirations
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

In 4 years I think Bernie would be too old to run again.

If Hillary actually delivers she will win but if she sells out I'd like to see Jane Sanders run.

I have been totally impressed with her in interviews, she answers every question and like on Maddow she even addressed things Maddow said about the campaign on another show.

I have known people who knew Hillary and said she is an amazing person in real life, but she sounds pissed off and harsh always on the stump. Sanders has a very calm style and is great.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
23. Her personality is rather off-putting
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

There's something slightly Palin-esque in how there's remarkably little forethought behind the words.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
36. Only Palin-esque in some respects
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:52 PM
May 2016

Sanders is obviously intelligent and can carry a conversation with ease, unlike Palin whose very words are like shrapnel in your eardrums.

Like I said, there's just not a lot of thought behind these media appearances, it's like she logged into the DU and memorized every line of the previous night's pro-Bernie posts. It's just regurgitation, like Palin's word salad bumper-sticker speeches.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
59. Palin. You think Jane Sanders is comparable to Sarah Palin.
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:12 PM
May 2016

Somebody's a "poor you" and it's not me. Your blind hatred for all things Bernie is now complete.

I actually feel sorry for you.

I'm just wondering if you're going to delete this crazy shit.



My bet is "not" since you won't see anything wrong with it.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
75. Lol, unbunch your tighty whities, bro
Fri May 13, 2016, 08:49 AM
May 2016

It was a comparison of one aspect of her demeanor. I fully realize that, for Sanders fans, people who hold a different opinion on a matter are viewed as contagious lepers, but you're getting a bit more unhinged than most.

Chillax, brah.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
77. Ah, I didn't realize I was speaking with a child
Fri May 13, 2016, 09:40 AM
May 2016

This explains so much.



My teen has already outgrown the whole "chillaxe" phase but I guess you're still having to go through it.

Feel free to have the last word, I know that's important to children.



jillan

(39,451 posts)
63. How can you even use them in the same sentence? They are polar opposites!
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:14 AM
May 2016

One is educated, down to earth, no makeup, no frills, soft spoken...

the other is a narcissistic, loud mouth lunatic that can't even form a coherent sentence.

Unreal.



This is the woman you compare to Palin?

Vinca

(50,282 posts)
26. No, but what if she did?
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:31 PM
May 2016

It seems like another husband and wife team in this race has had political aspirations for decades.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
30. No. I think she's just very passionate about supporting her husband and the movement
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:44 PM
May 2016

of millions of people who she knows as well as Bernie does, need change.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
35. She has political aspirations for Bernie and she loves and believes in him
Thu May 12, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

Beyond that who knows?....But that explains why she is working so hard and going out front so much.

I much prefer her to Jeff Weaver as a spokesperson.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
39. I don't. I read that she really didn't want him to run. I think they have her out front because she
Thu May 12, 2016, 02:54 PM
May 2016

is more affable than Bernie.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
41. She's an advisor to his campaign
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

They met due to their mutual interest in politics.

Don't know what sort of point you are trying to make?

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
55. "few wives candidates." Yet Hillary was always a hugely and visible and heard part of Bill's
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

campaign including active roll in the Presidency.

Not mention Roslyn Carter who attended Cabinet Meetings.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
58. She's in it for the money
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

He's paid her before for working on his campaigns. Her golden parachute money can't last forever.

Hekate

(90,719 posts)
61. I think she's keeping herself too busy to give us their taxes returns
Fri May 13, 2016, 01:09 AM
May 2016

C'mon, Jane -- we have 33 years of Clinton tax returns, and only the Sanders's and Trumps are holding back.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
64. Her corruption, unethical dealing and immoral dealings will be a problem
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:30 AM
May 2016

People might start to wonder about the lies on the loan application, the unethical payouts to friends and family, and being paid lots of money to go away.

 

leeroysphitz

(10,462 posts)
73. Yeah just think how much presidential experience this is giving her. If Bernie wins
Fri May 13, 2016, 06:51 AM
May 2016

she will suddenly be qualified.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
65. I think she's just milking the campaign funds she's socking away.
Fri May 13, 2016, 02:39 AM
May 2016

I've heard that her salary is $80k per month, but haven't seen the proof. I think this is what's behind her antics, and the "losing" the tax records, Bernie has a history of diverting funds to his family.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
66. You are rude and insensitive! Did Mrs. Sanders come across rude like you?
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:23 AM
May 2016

You are lying, Mrs. Sanders does not like the camera, why are some of Clinton supporters have to be so nasty?

JI7

(89,252 posts)
67. i think she is similar to bill Clinton
Fri May 13, 2016, 04:37 AM
May 2016

Both get defensive when it comes to their spouses and aren't alwsys helpful in how they react.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
68. SO you think she should remain
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:29 AM
May 2016

unseen and in the kitchen baking COOKIES like a good little wife/mother/grandmother!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
69. This Vermonter says none at all. It's not how Vermont works
Fri May 13, 2016, 05:48 AM
May 2016

Vermont politics don't work that way. You really have to start on the local level here. In order for Jane to get into elected politics, she'd have to get elected to the legislature or some other local office. Then she'd have to put in her time.

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