OR, do you think it was the right thing to do, under the circumstances?
thanks in advance!

I think she did believe that Bush was going to use the authority to pursue all diplomatic means, get a resolution with the UN, and use force as a last resort. I also think she did believe Colin Powell, who was a credible person.

I don't think she expected Bush to rush headlong into Baghdad as he did. I believe, as she said, she hoped the resolution would help to prevent war, not cause one.

who had considerable resources and access to intelligence dispatches.
they were not dependant on Dick Cheney for information.
do I need to repeat that?

The main thing was to get inspectors back in there.

I am pretty sure they got at least the second best service from the CIA in those years, and followed with interest
developments in Iraq, which I believe, turned out to be accurately understood, yet later misrepresented.
do you think the Clinton's doubted their own intelligence enough to give GW the benefit of the doubt
right after stealing the White House?

This was about getting inspectors back in.

And no, former presidents and sitting congress critters do NOT have the same intel as the Pentagon and president.

it all was.
you really wont acknowledge that Bill and Hillary had 8 years in the White House with pretty cool technology at the time,
you know satellites and all manner of surveillance toys, to sort out what Iraq was up to?
just be clear about that with me, if you could.
I totally appreciate the dialog.

it was worth it. unless you turn out to be a hell bound supporter of anyone besides HRC.
nothing can save you then.
they had absolute knowledge of the situation in Iraq.

whether you admit it or not.

so let's stop with the nonsense she was tricked.

and we don't know what, if at all, security briefings she had seen.

But as Senator, she was only given what the White House gave her after parsing and cherry picking the CIA's intel. Bush lied and she fell for it, just like 75% of the country at the time.

Some people can't get over that.

the Clinton's I saw in that documentary were quite the technology buffs.
this movie is SO must watch

I'm saying we don't know and that most of the country at the time was 'rah-rah war with Iraq!'

Not me, but I saw then for my own eyes how trigger happy we were.

I'm not sure you're using hypothesis right.

Also, what does technology have to do with any of my statements?

you want to revise history for us?

a warcrime against humanity,
not an oops.

just trying to be polite with "hypothesizing"
that should be obvious.

According to the NY Times, Mrs. Clinton did not have ANY Security clearance

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/26/us/politics/26clinton.html?_r=0

am I to believe Bill Clinton had no better sense of what sort of threat Iraq really was
and would encourage his wife to pursue them as the most major of security threats
in the days after we were so notably attacked by identified Saudis?
Neither Bill nor Hillary in her apparent ignorance as a US Senator was forced to trust the son of Poppy
in his stolen office who was placed there by the good work of David Brock.

is that the tableau?

I think it is pretty obvious who we are serving with our bloody adventures,
these targets were picked years in advance.
what has become of our society that we do not trust ourselves with the truth?

they probably don't "talk" as much as we all think they do.

clearly their interest in a return occupancy is mutual.
There was no vacuum keeping Hillary out of the loop.
she knew the score long before we were told the official version.

is that what you are trying to imply?
if so,
I believe the facts will set you free.
our technology was pretty good in the 90's.
it bears upon what intelligence they had, for the EIGHT years they held the White House.
I still dont think the Clinton's voted for Gore.
they arent this patient.
but they will wait as long as they have to.
they just want to serve the American people that much.

I said we have no idea what information the FLOTUS had at that time.

Just because the Pentagon or the CIA or anybody else had hard evidence of the state of Saddam's military capaity doesn't mean the FLOTUS knew that or was even looking to know that. Since the position is largely ceremonial, she probably was only privy to what Bill Clinton told her.

You're making wild conjectures that the Federal Government is all contained in the brain of the President of the United States and he's knows all and sees all. Further you're suggesting that Hillary has some sort of mind meld with Bill.

I'm done with this. Good day.

Im not that .......

wild conjectures!
EIGHT YEARS at the top of the intelligence food chain.
Iraq went 180 in two years and became the greatest threat the world knew.

right?

security clearance, she probably had no idea what Saddam's military capability was.

Conclusion:

a) She's monumentally stupid and gullible.

b) She ruthlessly followed the path of political expediency.

I don't think she's stupid or gullible.

he died, we saw, she came.

Thanks for playing.

she sold them like the cure for cancer

The fleet was there to do some fishing and the guns were fashion statements.

She made a "hard choice" to go along with the popular sentiment and propaganda. And, now calls it "mistake". A trifle, a mere bagatelle.

Does that go for Libya too?

Which year and which invasion are we talking about?

not very much though.

Thanks.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Iraq_invasion_map_US_Army_CMH.jpg

Same map directly from the US Army
www.history.army.mil/books/amh-v2/amh%20v2/map33,2.jpg

I took the https off so it wouldn't post as a jpg but as a link

The point is that Kuwait was used as a staging area for the invasion. Turkey was too but a much smaller extent.

I can't see the context of their origin, and it doesn't matter.

This is how things get far afield on DU. I posted HRC's floor speech to show the rationale for her IWR vote. Then the charge was she "sold" the war by echoing Bush. The evidence of that was, as I understood it, an invasion into Kuwait.

Yes, we had bases in Kuwait. That has nothing to do with what she said when she voted for the IWR, the lie that she tried to get others to vote for the war ("selling" it) by echoing Bush, or the INSANE meme that she's a bloodthirsty villain who deceived people in order to profit from bloodshed, while "cackling" about it of course.

Not aiming this at you.

area for the invasion because of your post #33. Nothing more, nothing less. Have a good night!

soldier on.
I only wish it was the killing, weapons deals and the warfare that would bring down her candidacy.
But if something else does the trick, cest la vie.

But didn't "back" them?

At least you admit she was lying then.

But both possibilities really make me uncomfortable with her freindly disposition toward Netanyahu. If past is rologue, she will believe whatever he has to sell her, OR she will fall for the temptation of political expediancy.
Regardless, it is chilling to think of what is to come if she is elected.

I don't know if she's reckless, but she's made a series of poor decisions, and still continues to (unless you think the Syria no fly zone was a stroke of foreign policy genius).

I will say this, based on the misinformation that was fed to everyone by the Bush WH, I get how it was a tough call to make. But, Sanders was able to see the big picture and could foresee the harm that could arise from destabilizing the region. What's funny is that one of the big arguments that I see in favor of HRC over Sanders is her experience in foreign affairs. But what good is the "experience" when it's a trail of aggressive, poor decisions vs Bernie's foresight?

She didn't make an "aggressive" decision, nor was it necessarily a poor one in terms of her thinking. She thought through it and believed getting a resolution for inspections would prevent war, not cause one. She explicitly said she did not support an invasion.

What Bush did with the IWR was outrageous and reckless.

Timeline of activity on Iraq . . .

* January 28, 2008

Senator Clinton Welcomes Additional Support for Legislation Requiring Congressional Approval for Security Agreements with Iraq

* December 19, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Senate Iraq Funding Votes

* December 12, 2007

Senator Clinton Calls for Investigation of Reported Rape and Detention of American Contractor in Iraq

* December 6, 2007

Senator Clinton Introduces Legislation to Require Congressional Approval for Security Agreements with Iraq

* November 27, 2007

Senator Clinton Calls on President Bush to Renounce Permanent Bases in Iraq

* October 23, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Bush Administration's Request for Additional Iraq War Funding

* October 4, 2007

Bipartisan Group of Senators Introduce Bill to Require Report on Iraq Redeployment Planning from Administration

* September 28, 2007

Congress Passes Dodd-Clinton Amendment to Expand Family and Medical Leave Benefits to Wounded Soldiers and Their Families

* September 26, 2007

Senate Unanimously Approves Clinton Amendment to Increase Temporary Lodging Expenses for Servicemembers

* September 26, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment

* September 20, 2007

Letter to Constituents from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Iraq Policy

* September 13, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in Response to the President's Address to the Nation


HIGHLIGHTS

* Senator Clinton Calls for Redeployment Planning

* Letter to Constituents from Senator Clinton on Iraq Policy

* Statement of Senator Clinton on the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill

* Senator Clinton Announces Legislation to End Authority for Iraq War

* Senator Clinton's Plan to End the War

* Senator Clinton's 2007 Trip to Iraq and Afghanistan

* Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the President's Speech on Iraq

* Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Iraq Study Group Report

* Statement of Senator Clinton on the Resignation of Secretary Rumsfeld

* September 12, 2007

Letter from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to President Bush in Advance of His Speech to the Nation on Iraq

* September 12, 2007

Senator Clinton Calls on President Bush to Redeploy U.S. Forces from Iraq at a Faster Pace

* September 11, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker on Iraq at Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing

* September 7, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Iraq

* September 6, 2007

Senator Clinton Calls on President Bush to Answer Key Questions on Iraq Policy

* September 6, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions General James Jones (Ret.) on the Findings of the Iraqi Security Forces Independent Assessment Commission

* September 5, 2007

Letter from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to President Bush

* August 23, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Key Judgments of the Iraq National Intelligence Estimate

* August 22, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton Calling for Political Change in Iraq

* August 22, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in Response to President Bush's Remarks at the Convention of Veterans of Foreign Wars

* August 13, 2007

Clinton Calls on President Bush to Clarify Administration Policy on Resuming the Military Draft; Affirm His Commitment to the All-Volunteer Force

* August 11, 2007

Clinton Calls on President Bush & Defense Secretary Gates to Clarify Administration Policy on Resuming the Military Draft, and Affirm Their Commitment to an All-volunteer Force

* August 2, 2007

Clinton, Kerry & Boxer Introduce Legislation Requiring Pentagon to Prepare for Iraq Redeployment

* August 1, 2007

Senator Clinton Responds to Vice President Cheney

* July 31, 2007

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton Questions Admiral Michael Mullen and General James Cartwright at Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing

* July 31, 2007

Nominee for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Commits to Senator Clinton to Brief Congress on Redeployment Planning

* July 25, 2007

Senator Clinton Applauds Unanimous Senate Approval of Bill to Help Wounded Servicemembers

* July 23, 2007

Senators Clinton, Webb, Byrd & Bayh Call for Armed Services Hearing to Focus on Redeployment of U.S. Forces from Iraq

* July 20, 2007

Clinton Calls on Gates to Explain Pentagon's Position on Planning for the Redeployment of U.S. Forces from Iraq; Renews Call on the Bush Administration to Immediately Provide a Redeployment Strategy

* July 20, 2007

Clinton, Kerry Legislation Requires Pentagon to Prepare for Iraq Redeployment

* July 18, 2007

Senator Clinton Speaks on the Senate Floor on Iraq

* July 12, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Iraq Initial Benchmark Assessment Report

* July 12, 2007

Byrd, Clinton Press for End to Iraq War Resolution

* July 10, 2007

Op-ed: This is Not Our Fight

* June 27, 2007

Senator Clinton Calls for New Foreign Policy to Meet Challenges Around the World

* June 27, 2007

Keynote Address of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at the Center for a New American Security

* June 21, 2007

Letter to Constituents from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Iraq Policy

* June 14, 2007

Senate Armed Services Committee Approves Clinton Measures to Help Wounded Servicemembers

* June 7, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions Lieutenant General Douglas Lute at Senate Armed Services Committee Confirmation Hearing

* May 24, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill

* May 23, 2007

Clinton Calls on Pentagon to Plan for Withdrawal from Iraq

* May 22, 2007

Senator Clinton Sponsors Bill to Provide Free Postage for Military Families

* May 22, 2007

Kerry, Clinton, Emanuel, Murphy and Walz Fight for Full Troop Pay Increase

* May 18, 2007

Senators Clinton & Webb Call for Investigation into the Effectiveness of Body Armor Issued to Our Troops

* May 17, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Internet Video of Apparent Honor Killing

* May 15, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Feingold-Reid and Levin-Reid Amendments

* May 15, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Recent Attack on 10th Mountain Division Soldiers in Iraq

* May 9, 2007

Defense Secretary Unclear if War Authorization Still Applies

* May 3, 2007

Senator Clinton Announces Legislation to End Authority for Iraq War

* May 3, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Floor Statement of Senator Byrd

* May 3, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions U.S. Central Commander Admiral William Fallon at Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing

* May 3, 2007

Byrd, Clinton Call for End of 2002 Use of Force Resolution

* May 1, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the President's Veto of the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill

* April 26, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Passage of Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Bill

* April 19, 2007

Clinton Presses Bush Pentagon on Contracting Abuses in Iraq

* April 12, 2007

Clinton Continues to Fight for Our Troops & Veterans;

Questions Pentagon and Veterans Affairs Officials About Treatment of Servicemembers and Veterans at Joint Armed Services-Veteran Affairs Committee Hearing

* April 11, 2007

Senators Bayh and Clinton Introduce Legislation to Provide Better Care for Soldiers with Traumatic Brain Injury

* April 10, 2007

Senator Clinton Continues Fight for Our Troops & Veterans

* March 29, 2007

Clinton Announces Initiative to Improve Detection and Treatment of Traumatic Brain Injury

* February 17, 2007

Clinton Plan to End War:

Reject the President's Escalation; Protect U.S. Troops in Iraq; Begin Redeploying Our Troops; Enables President to End War Before Leaving Office

* February 14, 2007

Clinton: No Military Action on Iran Without Congressional Authority

* February 13, 2007

Senator Clinton Calls on General Schoomaker to Provide Truthful Assessment of Conditions in Iraq and Afghanistan

* February 8, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Vote on Confirmation of General George W. Casey to be Army Chief of Staff

* February 7, 2007

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton Speaks on Iraq on the Senate Floor

* February 6, 2007

Senator Clinton Raises Iraq and Darfur with Defense Secretary Gates and General Pace, Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, at a Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing on the Administration's FY 08 Department of Defense Budget Request

* February 1, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions General George Casey Jr. on His Nomination to be United States Army Chief of Staff

* January 30, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions Admiral William J. Fallon, Nominee for Commander, United States Central Command

* January 25, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton Regarding the Pentagon Decision to Extend the Combat Tour of Soldiers from 10th Mountain Division Brigade in Afghanistan

* January 25, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions Defense Secretary William Perry, Ambassador Dennis Ross, and General Jack Keane on Iraq Strategy

* January 23, 2007

Senator Clinton Questions General David Petraeus at Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing

* January 18, 2007

Senator Clinton Discusses Iraq on PBS's NewsHour with Jim Lehrer

* January 18, 2007

Senator Clinton Discusses Iraq on Fox News

* January 17, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Resolution on Iraq Introduced by Senators Biden, Hagel, Levin and Snowe

* January 17, 2007

Bayh, Clinton Call for More Troops in Afghanistan

* January 17, 2007

Senators Bayh and Clinton, Congressman McHugh Discuss Their Visit with US Troops in Iraq & Afghanistan

* January 13, 2007

Senators Bayh and Clinton, Congressman McHugh Complete Iraq Visit, Leave for Afghanistan

* January 12, 2007

Senators Bayh and Clinton, Congressman McHugh Visit US Troops in Iraq & Afghanistan

* January 10, 2007

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the President’s Speech on Iraq

* December 7, 2006

Senator Clinton Questions the Co-Chairs of the Iraq Study Group, James Baker and Lee Hamilton, at a Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing

* December 6, 2006

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Iraq Study Group Report

* December 5, 2006

Senator Clinton Questions Defense Secretary Nominee Robert Gates at the Senate Armed Services Committee Confirmation Hearing

* November 15, 2006

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton Questions General John Abizaid, Commander, U.S. Central Command, and Ambassador David Satterfield, the State Department’s Coordinator for Iraq, at a Senate Armed Services Committee Hearing on the Current Situation and U.S. Military Operations in Iraq and Afghanistan

* November 8, 2006

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Resignation of Secretary Rumsfeld

* October 31, 2006

Senator Clinton Calls for New American Consensus to Meet Foreign Policy Challenges

* October 31, 2006

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's Remarks to the Council on Foreign Relations

* September 29, 2006

Senator Clinton Announces Congress Set to Approve Initiative to Help Service Members Returning from Iraq and Afghanistan and their Families

* September 26, 2006

Clinton Again Calls for Change of Course in Iraq

* September 25, 2006

Senator Clinton, Former Top Military Leaders Highlight Need for Change of Course in Iraq at DPC Oversight Hearing

* September 25, 2006

Senator Clinton on Press Reports surrounding the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) Report on Global Trends of Terrorism and Iraq

* September 21, 2006

Senators Call for GAO Investigation into Charges Administration Used Unqualified Political Cronies to Staff Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq

* September 4, 2006

Statement of Senator Clinton in Support of the Letter to President Bush on Iraq by Democratic Senate and House Leaders

* August 3, 2006

Senator Clinton Presses Secretary Rumsfeld on Bush Administration Policy on Iraq

* August 3, 2006

Senator Clinton Highlights Secretary Rumsfeld's Pattern of Painting Rosy Picture of Iraq

* August 2, 2006

Senator Clinton Calls on Defense Secretary Rumsfeld to Appear Before the Senate Armed Services Committee

* August 2, 2006

Senator Clinton Presses Deputy Defense Secretary on Rumsfeld Forgoing Public Appearance Before the Senate Armed Services Committee

* August 2, 2006

Statement of Senator Clinton on Secretary Rumsfeld’s Decision to Reverse Course and Appear at Tomorrow’s Open Armed Services Committee Hearing

* July 31, 2006

Statement of Senator Clinton on the Letter to President Bush on Iraq by Democratic Senate and House Leaders

* July 25, 2006

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Iraqi Prime Minister’s Comments on Hezbollah

* June 21, 2006

Remarks of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Senate Floor on Iraq

* June 15, 2006

Statement of Senator Clinton on the 2006 Emergency Supplemental for the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Hurricane Relief

* June 15, 2006

Senator Clinton Introduces Legislation to Help Service Members Returning From Iraq and Afghanistan and their Families

* November 29, 2005

Letter to Constituents on Iraq Policy

* November 15, 2005

Statement of Senator Clinton on the Iraq Amendments

* October 5, 2005

Senators Reid, Clinton & Others Press President Bush On Iraq Policy

* August 3, 2005

Senator Clinton Joins Other Women Senators in Urging President to Continue to Express US Support for Iraqi Women’s Rights

* January 28, 2005

Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Iraqi Elections

* August 30, 2004

Senator Clinton and Colleagues Call Upon Secretary of Defense to Investigate Iraq Security Contract

* May 3, 2004

Statement of Senators Charles E. Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Escape of Thomas Hamill From Captivity in Iraq

* February 13, 2004

Senator Clinton Calls on President Bush to Address the Deteriorating Condition of Iraq’s Women

* January 9, 2004

Senators Clinton and Reed Ask President Bush for Details on US Plan for Iraqi Hajj

* November 27, 2003

Senators Reed and Clinton Celebrate Thanksgiving With US Troops Stationed at Two Bases Inside Afghanistan; Headed to Iraq

* November 25, 2003

Senator Clinton Visits Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, and Pakistan

* October 17, 2003

Senator Clinton Votes for Iraq Appropriation In Support of U.S. Troops

* October 16, 2003

Clinton Demands Accountability in Iraq Spending

* October 3, 2003

Clinton-Backed Amendment on Iraq Contracting Passes Senate

* September 22, 2003

Senator Clinton Joins With Members of New York Board of Rabbis and the Jewish Educators Network to Send Torahs to Troops in Iraq

* April 10, 2003

Bipartisan Bill Requires Public Explanations For Closed Bidding On Iraqi Reconstruction

* April 3, 2003

Amendment Introduced by Senators Clinton, Collins & Wyden Calls For Explanations on Awarding of Iraqi Reconstruction Contracts

* March 24, 2003

Statements of Senator Clinton on Iraq and the Wartime Supplemental

* February 4, 2003

Levin, Clinton Urge Bush to Propose U.N. Resolution Authorizing U-2 Flights in Iraq


* October 10, 2002

Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq

For everyone except Sanders it's one and done.

Not exactly someone I want running the country.

was calm and measured in her response. She and Kerry would have never used the power their votes gave to do anything but what it was supposed to do, serve as leverage.

Listen to the whole thing.

nothing to do with it?

I believe she said Clinton made no rush to war, even as senator of NY.

There were people in Kentucky and Wyoming scared clueless after 9/11, but in NY where the worst happened, she was -- as Lucinda said -- "calm and measured in her response."

She wasn't beating war drums or claiming Iraq was behind 9/11 or saying "BOO" to get votes as Republicans were. As Lucinda said, many Democrats were in a difficult situation and Clinton, like Kerry and others, voted to give the president authority to negotiate a resolution at the UN. It was to be leverage for AVOIDING war.

As many of us feared, the Bush team had a different agenda than what they presented, cooked the evidence, and ran headlong into Baghdad.

Plenty of our Senators were smart enough not to vote for that turd. "Difficult situation" or no. To my mind, leadership means doing the right thing, not the politically expedient one.

It's not the deal-breaker for me that it was in 2008, but there's no way to spin it as anything but a grievous error in judgment.

But I wasn't a senator from NY, and she wasn't a private citizen with no responsibilities to a constituency.

She- and her supporters- should own it, and not keep trying to excuse it.

And remember the position SHE was in.

What's a little offensive is the assumption that people don't already know this stuff.

Don't mean to be. It's a little offensive to me that people still make assumptions about her motives -- as if she just LOVES WAR! -- rather than hearing her reasoning as a NY Senator, even if we could disagree about it.

It wasn't easy, it wasn't fun, and it wasn't "warmongering." That's all.

But she made a mistake with that vote.

is not sharp, at least not as sharp as that of the Congress members and citizens who opposed that vote and that war.

23 Senators voted No while she voted Yes. 23 were correct and she was not among them. 133 House Members voted No.

Those who voted No made the better choice, and yet they are not rewarded while those who sent us to war wrongfully are rewarded. That bothers me.

Her decision was obviously fucked up.

She is a hawk, plain and simple.

Listen to it straight through, with as open a mind as possible.

Step back 14 years.

On October 10, 2002, Sanders voted against the Iraq AUMF, and on the same day, voted to fund the Defense Department in fiscal year 2003:

https://votesmart.org/bill/3083/12790/27110/use-of-military-force-against-iraq#.VYZ9uba1qSo

https://votesmart.org/bill/3122/8511/27110/department-of-defense-appropriations-fiscal-year-2003#.VYZ8NLa1qSo

sent my best friend into a war that I knew was foul. He went in a happy, extremely well-adjusted man with so many friends a ball room wouldn't hold them. He come out a Wounded Warrior, with PTSD to boot. I love him like a real brother. I think I will vote with this in mind.

And is still pretending that she was fooled.

In reality, hawkishness was in the air, and she followed instead of leading.

but most of us knew there were no WMD's we bothered to research from news articles alone. She must've been to busy to perform due diligence before her vote, or she is so damn stupid she couldn't see she was being lied too, both speak volumes.

This is only one of the many, many reasons Sanders questions her judgment. By her own admission it was a mistake. It just cost so many innocent lives and billions of dollars that could have gone for so many productive things.

And they needed a reason.

Hillary Clinton is not a stupid woman. If she is then she has no right to be running for President of the United States. She was in the White House just 2 years before this and she knew exactly what was going on out there. The Clintons still had contacts that had access to some high level secure information. She knew about what W wanted to do and what Saddam was capable of doing. It was a bogus war and she knew that and voted for it anyway.