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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:48 AM May 2016

‘Hillary Is the Only Candidate Waging Two Campaigns’

An email from Hillary’s campaign tells the story of the 2016 race.

I need to level with you: Right now, Hillary is the only candidate waging two campaigns, which means we need twice as many resources as Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump.

It’s notable that the campaign is saying this so directly. But let’s be honest, Hillary is actually fighting on three fronts: Bernie, Trump and the media.

It’s the story of Hillary’s political life: face triple the hurdles and ten times the incoming fire — and still thrive.

https://bluenationreview.com/clinton-campaign-email-hillary-is-the-only-candidate-waging-two-campaigns/
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‘Hillary Is the Only Candidate Waging Two Campaigns’ (Original Post) SecularMotion May 2016 OP
The media have been her most reliable ally Vattel May 2016 #1
With freinds like these.... baldguy May 2016 #4
Is that anyway to thank the WaPo and CNN for all they have done for her? GreatGazoo May 2016 #20
Yeah, with their daily reports about emgailgate... joshcryer May 2016 #9
Do you listen to MSNBC and CNN, or read the Washington Post or the Vattel May 2016 #12
Yep. joshcryer May 2016 #17
These are the results of neglect and indifference. NurseJackie May 2016 #21
I guess my perception of the site is very different than yours. Vattel May 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author .99center May 2016 #46
She's hardly thriving. cali May 2016 #2
Well, we agree on something. joshcryer May 2016 #10
And One Of Those Campaigns Is Against Herself As She Is.... global1 May 2016 #3
She is also battling being a pathological liar Chasstev365 May 2016 #5
What a bunch of fucking cry babies. LMAO! WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #6
I think I would have avoided the "incoming fire" analogy. (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #7
Ha! Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #18
So would I timmymoff May 2016 #33
and she's losing badly. Proof she is a loser. B Calm May 2016 #8
Hillary is actually fighting on three fronts? SmittynMo May 2016 #11
^^^ this ^^^ Hiraeth May 2016 #38
If Hillary wanted to she could just do what Bernie is doing awake May 2016 #13
^right on DebDoo May 2016 #43
Why? Bad strategy, if she thinks she has secured the nomination why would she even be worried about TheKentuckian May 2016 #14
Bernie had to fight Hillary, the DNC, and the media at the same time jfern May 2016 #15
That is true. OwlinAZ May 2016 #23
One against her opponents, one against her record. (nm) Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #16
This seems to be from a fund raising email GreatGazoo May 2016 #19
This hack has been lying since he first appeared on the Clinton News Network and MSNBC. mikehiggins May 2016 #36
K&R betsuni May 2016 #22
Agree, one Campaign designed for us Rabble. The second for her real Masters. Katashi_itto May 2016 #24
She'll win, just like she did against the Benghazi committee. JoePhilly May 2016 #25
Blue Nation Review Beowulf May 2016 #26
+1 (NT) Eric J in MN May 2016 #30
^^^ Absolutely!! beedle May 2016 #34
... TDale313 May 2016 #27
Bernie Sanders is also criticizing Trump Eric J in MN May 2016 #28
She's simply the last candidate to do it this cycle. That's all. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #29
No sympathy! Bernie has been fighting Hillary, the DNC, Republicans, the MSN, and Dustlawyer May 2016 #31
Are you saying she's not tough enough to handle it? Perogie May 2016 #32
OMG! Blue Nation Review? mikehiggins May 2016 #35
Welcome to the club. Sanders has been fighting three campaigns: Clinton, Corpmedia and the DNC. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #37
Maybe if dem leadership had put up a better candidate CrispyQ May 2016 #39
Aw, I weep for the fucking NeoCon Ferd Berfel May 2016 #40
Gee. That's really, really, sad. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #42
"...triple the hurdles and ten times the incoming fire..." bvf May 2016 #44
Just concentrate on being truly Progressive and the majority of your troubles will be over Hillary. highprincipleswork May 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author .99center May 2016 #47
Oh poor baby! Is this too hard for her? I know she thought she'd be handed the nomination but jillan May 2016 #48
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
4. With freinds like these....
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:08 AM
May 2016

If that were true, then shit like Benghazi & the emails would have been given all the attention they deserved - which is none.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
20. Is that anyway to thank the WaPo and CNN for all they have done for her?
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:55 AM
May 2016


http://fair.org/home/washington-post-ran-16-negative-stories-on-bernie-sanders-in-16-hours/

Would you have them use the entire paper to support her? They already gave her everything but the Sports section.
 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
12. Do you listen to MSNBC and CNN, or read the Washington Post or the
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:49 AM
May 2016

NY Daily News? They are a few of the many examples of media outlets that have shown a huge preference for Hillary over Bernie and have been relentlessly unfair to Bernie.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
17. Yep.
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:28 AM
May 2016

See daily reports about emailgate. That's my point.

Sanders, has, unfortunately, lost. It is what is is.

Still she gets daily, regular, often, shit reporting about a nonissue.

That same nonissue is repeated here daily.

Hopefully Skinner follows through. Burn it down. The site should not represent anti-Democratic ideals.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
41. I guess my perception of the site is very different than yours.
Sat May 14, 2016, 03:18 PM
May 2016

I respect some DU Clinton supporters, but many of the more prolific ones have been horribly dishonest during this primary season, relentlessly distorting the respective records of both candidates.

The email stuff has never interested me much. So far I have seen no evidence of anything that should lead to an indictment, and I seriously doubt that there will be an indictment.

Response to joshcryer (Reply #17)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. She's hardly thriving.
Sat May 14, 2016, 06:50 AM
May 2016

I will never give her a red cent. She chose her fundraising route years ago.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
10. Well, we agree on something.
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:23 AM
May 2016

I'm not donating a dime or doing a minute of volunteering.

Because I don't think she needs it.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
5. She is also battling being a pathological liar
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:09 AM
May 2016

1. I had issues with NAFTA from the start.
2. I misspoke about wanting to get rid of coal.
3. I want to raise the minimum wage to $15
4. I called out the bankers on their behavior.

And on and on........

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
33. So would I
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

So after voting for the Iraq war she showed us what she learned by regime change in both Syria and Libya, Bravo!

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
11. Hillary is actually fighting on three fronts?
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:45 AM
May 2016

They all are.

For Bernie, it's Trump, Clinton, the media.
For Trump, it's Bernie, Clinton, and the media.

What's your point?

awake

(3,226 posts)
13. If Hillary wanted to she could just do what Bernie is doing
Sat May 14, 2016, 07:57 AM
May 2016

That is running for the American people and the issues of thoes who work for a living, instead she is running for herself & her wallstreet friends. By running for long held beliefs Bernie only has one race to run, while Hillary's overriding belief is that she is destined to become the frist woman president and she thinks that is under attack from all sides. Unfortunately Hillary views herself as a victim which causes her to take action out of fear like trying to use a home server for her email instead of the Gov. system. If Hillary would truly run for all working Americans insted of running for herself she would then only have to run one race.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
14. Why? Bad strategy, if she thinks she has secured the nomination why would she even be worried about
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:17 AM
May 2016

fighting Sanders.

Also, bad ideology and politics. Why is she fighting Sanders anyway? She picked a path that guarantees opposition on the left a long time ago and stuck with it to this day. There is too much space to her left and nature abhors a vacuum so if you like a lot of warm, purple almost reddish weak sauce that is the meal it is served with.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
19. This seems to be from a fund raising email
Sat May 14, 2016, 08:52 AM
May 2016

so it has a something to sell. Mostly the idea that you should donate some money.

The entire Republican party has been fighting Trump. Mitt Romney came from the sidelines to fund attacks on Trump. And with all the ammo available to Trump he leads with Hillary's open marriage ?! That's it? Not TPP or Iraq or Emails or the ancient Blackberry or her flip on DOMA or...

As for Sanders, according the Clinton campaign THIS is the worst and most negative attack in the history of negative campaigning (per Joel Benenson):



Fund raising.



mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
36. This hack has been lying since he first appeared on the Clinton News Network and MSNBC.
Sat May 14, 2016, 11:12 AM
May 2016

But that is his job, isn't it?

Beowulf

(761 posts)
26. Blue Nation Review
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

Brock propaganda.

We're supposed to feel sorry for her, yet she started the campaign with advantages that usually only an incumbent enjoys: control of the DNC, control of super delegates, huge advantage in endorsements, universal name recognition, gaming the primary schedule, gaming the debate schedule, the media's presumption of her enevitable nomination, a popular former president campaigning constantly for her, and a huge campaign war chest. Yesterday with all those advantages, she can't close the deal against a little-known, Jewish, elderly, Democratic Socialist senator from one of the smallest states in the Union.

People need to ask how someone could squander such a huge advantage. Misogyny doesn't cut it as an answer. Much of Sanders' base was begging for Elizabeth Warren to enter the race. The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy doesn't work either. It's been vile towards Obama yet he won two terms. No, Hillary's negatives are almost entirely of her own making. I can't feel sorry for her.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
34. ^^^ Absolutely!!
Sat May 14, 2016, 11:05 AM
May 2016

And every one of those advantages were Bernie disadvantages, which were suppose to have halted his campaign before it even started.

Why is it that 'the American story" has morphed from one of the poor working their way though hard work to a position of success to one of the rich and advantaged narrowly overcoming all attempts by the disadvantaged to gain a bit of equality?

The WWE-ifying of America .... Black-hat Hillary, on the advantageous side of a 10 on 1 handicap match again Babyface Bernie, a match that Hillary can not lose, finds herself, against all odds, in a close fight and in real danger of losing ... until the last minute when DWS Mcahon comes strutting down the walk way, steps into the ring and kicks Bernie square in the nuts allowing Hillary to pin Sanders for the win .... and the crowd goes wild for their favorite black-hat; because that's the new "American Way". Might makes right, and win at any cost.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
28. Bernie Sanders is also criticizing Trump
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:16 AM
May 2016

...and being insulted by Trump.

Sanders, Clinton, and Trump each have two opponents.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
31. No sympathy! Bernie has been fighting Hillary, the DNC, Republicans, the MSN, and
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:18 AM
May 2016

all of the richest, most powerful people and corporations in the world!!!

Perogie

(687 posts)
32. Are you saying she's not tough enough to handle it?
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:19 AM
May 2016

The President has to deal with multiple issues at once. Is this too tough for her?



Can Hilliary handle laces?

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
35. OMG! Blue Nation Review?
Sat May 14, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

And who runs BNR?

I really dislike hearing people moan about HRC's problems. If she were a better candidate this would have been wrapped up last year, like it was supposed to be.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
39. Maybe if dem leadership had put up a better candidate
Sat May 14, 2016, 11:28 AM
May 2016

they could have been rid of that pesky socialist by now.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
44. "...triple the hurdles and ten times the incoming fire..."
Sat May 14, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

Really? I know it's BNR and all, but they're really going with "incoming fire"?

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

jillan

(39,451 posts)
48. Oh poor baby! Is this too hard for her? I know she thought she'd be handed the nomination but
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:25 AM
May 2016

many democrats thought otherwise.

Deal with it Hillary.

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