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speaktruthtopower

(800 posts)
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:09 PM May 2016

Clinton Server Possibilities are Endless

1. Maybe she set the home server up it because she was paranoid about State Department or other government IT/security people having access to information that could be used politically against her. She took her chances with hackers, foreign and domestic.

--1 (a). Maybe foreign hackers got in and real damage was done.

--1(b). Maybe Republicans got in and the Obama DOJ is about to lower the boom on them.

--1 (c). Maybe both Republicans and foreigners got in and and the DOJ can't go after the political hackers without divulging the sensitive information leaked in open court.

--1(d). Maybe people from a government agency got in and a debate is going on whether the wrongdoing of the agency was greater than wrongdoing shown in the e-mails, or in setting the server up in the first place.

2. Maybe it was all a sting in the first place and there was fake information on the server. A honey pot to plant disinformation for foreign hackers. She was cooperating.

--2(a). Maybe Republicans operative(s) hacked in and saw some of the fake information as political ammo to be used in the fall.

----2(a)(1). Maybe the DOJ can't go after the political hackers without divulging the sensitive information as false.


I wouldn't assume anything. The possibilities are almost endless.

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Clinton Server Possibilities are Endless (Original Post) speaktruthtopower May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #1
I have something to say that is liberal and pro Democrat, but as this is Democratic Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #2
Then why post at all? NWCorona May 2016 #4
I have something to say that is liberal and pro Democrat, but as this is Democratic Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #6
Then why post at all? NWCorona May 2016 #9
Thank you for confirming DU is no longer a safe place for liberals to talk. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #11
I'm not telling you to stop at all but nice try. NWCorona May 2016 #15
One good thing about President drumpf, 11 million jobs will open up. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #16
I don't think you have to worry about that as it will most likely be Biden or Bernie in the WH. nt NWCorona May 2016 #19
spam generator says what? reddread May 2016 #20
Yep seekthetruth May 2016 #26
Question: If you are so liberal and pro-Democratic, as you say, why aren't you concerned Fawke Em May 2016 #7
President drumpf is counting on this attitude. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #8
Possibilities are endless! cheapdate May 2016 #3
#5, very interesting, could be something like that speaktruthtopower May 2016 #12
She hasn't denied it cheapdate May 2016 #25
Paul Thompson's email timeline Merryland May 2016 #5
Well you have to look at it this way Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #10
Because she was the boss? speaktruthtopower May 2016 #14
yes and no Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #18
The intelligent person would apply Occam's Razor. BillZBubb May 2016 #13
The FBI has been investigating her server, what she did and scrutinizing her emails for a year CoffeeCat May 2016 #17
Maybe, there shouldn't be any of these maybes ever! Maybe she should teather herself to ViseGrip May 2016 #21
It will all come to a head in October - as in "October Surprise" Ferd Berfel May 2016 #22
The conspiracies are endless. NCTraveler May 2016 #23
Jesus H. Christ, quit flogging that dead horse. VOX May 2016 #24

Response to speaktruthtopower (Original post)

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
2. I have something to say that is liberal and pro Democrat, but as this is Democratic
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

Underground, I dont dare say it or I will be censored.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
6. I have something to say that is liberal and pro Democrat, but as this is Democratic
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

Underground, I dont dare say it or I will be censored.

Noted that you agree that liberals dont belong here

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
16. One good thing about President drumpf, 11 million jobs will open up.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

As most of the people's lives he will destroy are employed, that is.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
26. Yep
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:12 PM
May 2016

Been banned once for standing up to the neoliberals on DU once, and got a slapping on the wrist.

Tisk tisk....

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
7. Question: If you are so liberal and pro-Democratic, as you say, why aren't you concerned
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

with a criminal investigation that has the possibility of ruining the party for years?

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
3. Possibilities are endless!
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:17 PM
May 2016

1. Or maybe not
1a. Or maybe not.
1b. Or maybe not.
1c. Or maybe not.
1d. Or maybe not.

2. Or maybe not.
2a. Or maybe not.
2a(1). Or maybe not.

Fun game! I'll play!

3. Maybe she was coordinating illegal foreign political contributions?
4. Maybe she was covering up evidence she killed Vince Foster?
5. Maybe she was actually working with the Russians to carve up Syria's energy resources?

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
5. Paul Thompson's email timeline
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

The many strands & twists & turns of Hillary's resistance to investigation of her notorious private server is well-detailed in Paul Thompson's timeline.

(timeline link courtesy Mike Malloy, who had Thompson on the other night - he is very smart.)



http://thompsontimeline.com/The_Clinton_Email_Scandal_Timeline

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
10. Well you have to look at it this way
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

where was the NSA that it allowed the server? The people who control security of our country should have been on the ball? There is security all over, tapping people's phone lines listening etc. but this was happening right under their noses - why?

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
18. yes and no
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

even though she was the SOS it doesn't mean she shouldn't have been monitored. Besides I guess the president didn't know either?

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
13. The intelligent person would apply Occam's Razor.
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

With so much at stake, taking the most likely possibility is the safest until more information is known.

The surely rules out item #2 are a reasonable position.

The most likely possibility is that Hillary set up the private server to avoid having her personal and Clinton Foundation email susceptible to a FOIA request or congressional subpoena. A lot of bad things followed from that poor decision.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
17. The FBI has been investigating her server, what she did and scrutinizing her emails for a year
Sat May 14, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

When you think about what all of this, it is daunting.

This case is unusual because there is an electronic trail of everything Clinton did. If she mishandled classified information or failed to turn over all of her emails, as the FBI requested--there is electronic proof. And if she did fail to turn over all work-related emails, that's an Obstruction charge and possibly evidence tampering.

God only knows what the FBI has uncovered. I bet we will never know all of the details.

The good news is that the FBI has recovered all of her emails that she deleted. That news has been public for months.

She's completely screwed. I'm tired of Hillary fans childishly asserting, "Stop it! This is a right-wing smear!" It's always been about the Democratic party. What's happening inside of our party and what this means for our Democratic primary and our elections.

It's time to start talking about what happens if she is forced to drop out. What happens? Seriously. Democrats need to be prepared. We need to be aware of the rules of our party. For example, what happens to her pledged delegates? Bernie will NOT inherit them by default. This situation does NOT benefit Bernie. What it does is throws our Democratic party into chaos.

Time for people to start discussing this like good Democrats--and discussing what is going to happen.

The FBI announced in late April that the bulk of the investigation is complete. They've all ready finished the groundwork. They know the story, because of that electronic trail. The only thing left to do is to interview Clinton. Not to glean facts, but to try to put the facts that they have unearth--into context. I think we will know where we stand very shortly after she is interviewed. If she doesn't drag her feet, she should be interviewed in May--and I bet our party will know by June.

I hope we can move forward like adults, discussing this incredibly serious situation and crisis that our Democratic party faces. This is bigger than Hillary Clinton. This is about this election and ensuring that Trump is defeated, if she is indicted.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
21. Maybe, there shouldn't be any of these maybes ever! Maybe she should teather herself to
Sat May 14, 2016, 03:45 PM
May 2016

the government, that is paying her, that must have transparency?

If she operated like everyone else has to, you, me, and the rest of the feds, you would not have to ask all these questions. You should never have to 'guess'.....maybe this or that. We should know.

Fuck Hillary.

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