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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:45 PM May 2016

The actions of the Democratic Establishment is turning young voters against them.

I spoke to young voters this weekend and if that's the goal of the Democratic Establishment you are doing one hell of a good job.

If I told you some of the comments, you'd probably have to get out the fainting couches.

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The actions of the Democratic Establishment is turning young voters against them. (Original Post) Skwmom May 2016 OP
and I talked to three young voters who DURHAM D May 2016 #1
Wow! If you are disgusted by what is happening with the Democratic Party you are an anarchist? Skwmom May 2016 #3
They should get their own party. DURHAM D May 2016 #5
If you want it that way flobee1 May 2016 #9
Can't wait. DURHAM D May 2016 #13
Her supporters are her own worst enemy AgingAmerican May 2016 #38
A vile and nasty bunch. HooptieWagon May 2016 #44
I guess the Democratic Party doesn't have to worry about getting votes Skwmom May 2016 #14
Anarchists don't vote anyway. DURHAM D May 2016 #16
They're going after the Bush donors to compensate. Broward May 2016 #31
THOSE few votes were predestined to take themselves Hortensis May 2016 #39
The never Hillary momentum is growing. HooptieWagon May 2016 #46
It isn't just young voters. Jackilope May 2016 #58
Over 50% of SBSers? Lol. Baloney. Hortensis May 2016 #61
Most of Bernies support is Independants. HooptieWagon May 2016 #64
We'll see, won't we? Hortensis May 2016 #67
Something something purity test SpareribSP May 2016 #55
I like Anarchists, snort May 2016 #20
Many of them are undercover FBI DURHAM D May 2016 #24
Gee I never use those little icon things snort May 2016 #30
Hardly any of those Bernie people in Nevada were young.... Henhouse May 2016 #2
The old, Clintonian "older white people" don't really count meme? NewImproved Deal May 2016 #7
They should reconsider the bad choice they have made. Baobab May 2016 #34
Yep, I know a lot of older white people who love Bernie, because he represents what the RKP5637 May 2016 #11
Bingo. ucrdem May 2016 #41
Finals week. hellofromreddit May 2016 #52
All the under-30 people I've know are disgusted by the arrogant sleaze of the Clinton Machine... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #4
I agree, rules are totally bogus. Like no one should have to follow them like totally never Ohioblue22 May 2016 #10
My concern is the divide in the democratic party is probably not going away and RKP5637 May 2016 #6
Good Instincts pmorlan1 May 2016 #18
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #15
Shame on You pmorlan1 May 2016 #21
New poster. HooptieWagon May 2016 #56
Do you have any links to those "whores and bitches" quotes? corkhead May 2016 #26
Then what are they going to do about it? Go out and bring progressives into the party? snowy owl May 2016 #12
Oh some anecdotal evidence. Seems legit. JaneyVee May 2016 #17
If young people want their voices heard.... Txbluedog May 2016 #19
From people I have talked to nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #22
Oh, I agree. Skwmom May 2016 #29
Their candidate is losing so they're throwing a tantrum. Metric System May 2016 #23
The DNC is rigging the process, so we're fighting back. HerbChestnut May 2016 #25
LOL Metric System May 2016 #27
I know, hilarious right?? HerbChestnut May 2016 #28
No they're not. fun n serious May 2016 #62
Go watch video from last night. HerbChestnut May 2016 #63
Who won the popular vote in Nevada? fun n serious May 2016 #70
This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious May 2016 #32
It's turning this 40 year Democrat against them. HooptieWagon May 2016 #33
I switched to unaffiliated I'm so fed up with the DNC/DLC/DWS/HRC, the whole shebang. RKP5637 May 2016 #36
And you aren't the only one. n/t Contrary1 May 2016 #37
Same. "My party, right or wrong" is an engraved invitation for lots of Wrong. n/t winter is coming May 2016 #40
I became an independent 2 weeks ago, after 40+ years as a Democrat who Zorra May 2016 #66
So this excuses that shitshow? Blue_Tires May 2016 #35
The actions of "young voters" make this current generation an embarrassment, quite frankly Tarc May 2016 #42
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It's sad that you grew up in a era of participation trophies and an "everyone wins!" mentality Tarc May 2016 #48
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I'm only 28, brah. Go ask your mom & pops Tarc May 2016 #51
My ma' and pa' managed to not give me any trophies.... JPnoodleman May 2016 #54
Somebody's having a sad, I see Tarc May 2016 #57
Lol... Turin_C3PO May 2016 #59
how odd the young voters I know totally disagree with your OPINION nt msongs May 2016 #43
If I was a Republican operative, I'd pretend to be a Hillary supporter and push away the younger... AZ Progressive May 2016 #47
I'd pretend to be a Bernie supporter who would never vote for Hillary. JoePhilly May 2016 #53
I talked to some young voters this weekend too. JoePhilly May 2016 #50
they want to restrict the election to the 47% of the electorate that's in the two rump parties: MisterP May 2016 #60
Not just young voters. I am 74. jwirr May 2016 #65
I dunno, when helping my young adults to perceive the world, I do not paint a corrupt picture seabeyond May 2016 #68
By "actions" I assume you mean... Adrahil May 2016 #69

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. THOSE few votes were predestined to take themselves
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:06 PM
May 2016

off in frustrated rage from the very beginning.

I can't imagine what you see when you consider the disgraceful behavior of Bernie's out-of-control spitttlers these days, but they are not exactly the kind of examples young people emulate. Or older people. Trashing their own movement.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
46. The never Hillary momentum is growing.
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:31 PM
May 2016

I think it might be over 50% of Sanders supporters now...my FB feed is even higher. At least Clinton no longer has to pretend to be anything but conservative...she can really go after those republican votes now.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
58. It isn't just young voters.
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

Several of us that were women over 50 at the Sanders rally in SF are plenty disgusted and in that camp -- and in the realization there has to be an outside party. Progressives are not listened to within the Democratic Party or DNC.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
61. Over 50% of SBSers? Lol. Baloney.
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:51 PM
May 2016

Big time baloney.

You want to feel you're part of something big, but -- as almost always happens with extremists who start acting out -- we are talking about a comparatively small group who are busily sidelining themselves.

And, as always happens with extremists who've taken themselves out through bad behavior, as they lose relevance and the prospect of future power, the willingness of others who support Bernie to continue hanging with them will also disappear. There is nothing attractive about throwing tantrums, threatening to sabotage elections, or losing.

And the Democratic Party has serious grown-up business to tend to.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
64. Most of Bernies support is Independants.
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

Clinton will do terrible with them. And more and more Sanders Democrats are turning their backs on her. Her scorched earth strategy is blowing up in her face big time, and I don't think it can be repaired. All the cheating she's doing is just making things worse...she might not get any Sanders Democrats in Nevada now.

Henhouse

(646 posts)
2. Hardly any of those Bernie people in Nevada were young....
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:48 PM
May 2016

Mostly older white people.....Just saying....

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
34. They should reconsider the bad choice they have made.
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:24 PM
May 2016

At this point, the best thing for them to do would be reconsider their candidate in the cold light or reality.

For example, when she claims to be putting forward a healthcare plan to help she was actually helping make healthcare and education too expensive globally, forever, with a global trade deal on services.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
11. Yep, I know a lot of older white people who love Bernie, because he represents what the
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

democratic party used to be about. I imagine they will vote for whomever the nominee is, but I'm concerned about those that well might not.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
41. Bingo.
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

The Twitter-generation phenom was basically an ad campaign aimed at recruiting the Ron Paul rump and the results show it.

 

NewImproved Deal

(534 posts)
4. All the under-30 people I've know are disgusted by the arrogant sleaze of the Clinton Machine...
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

No thanks.

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RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
6. My concern is the divide in the democratic party is probably not going away and
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

that will be unfortunate, because it will be exploited as a significant weakness into the future. I like Bernie very much, but will vote for whomever the D nominee is. ... but my gut feeling is the democratic party turnout will be weak in 2016. I certainly hope not, but I do think that might be the case.

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snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
12. Then what are they going to do about it? Go out and bring progressives into the party?
Sun May 15, 2016, 05:56 PM
May 2016

Won't accept whining if they just whine about it but stay apathetic or complacent. They have to create a ruckus. I hope you told them that.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
19. If young people want their voices heard....
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

They need to VOTE. Politicians are most concerned about getting votes, why should they care about a group that hardly ever votes?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. From people I have talked to
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:03 PM
May 2016

not just the young. And some older voters will sit it out or vote third party. This is splitting the party. But that is what realignments do

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
70. Who won the popular vote in Nevada?
Sun May 15, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

Who cheated and prevented Hillary delegates in April? Cry me a river!

:large

Send him a facebook message. He talks about what they did in April and brags.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
32. This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:16 PM
May 2016

eom

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
33. It's turning this 40 year Democrat against them.
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

I won't be voting for any establishment Democrats this election, and I'll be switching Party affiliation. If this bullshit is what the party stands for, I want no part.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
36. I switched to unaffiliated I'm so fed up with the DNC/DLC/DWS/HRC, the whole shebang.
Sun May 15, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

I'll still vote democratic, by the candidate, but the NEW democratic party does not represent me, they left me!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
66. I became an independent 2 weeks ago, after 40+ years as a Democrat who
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:21 PM
May 2016

has always voted straight ticket Dem without a second thought.

I have nothing but contempt for DINO's and I don't want sully my reputation by being associated with these corrupt Republican-like individuals anymore. It's not just younger Dems that the Dem establishment has driven away because of their dirty deeds.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
42. The actions of "young voters" make this current generation an embarrassment, quite frankly
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:24 PM
May 2016

Nearly inciting a riot because their chosen delegates didn't meat the eligibility requirement. It's like Gamergate/MRA rage we've all seen a thousand times over the past few years.

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Tarc

(10,476 posts)
48. It's sad that you grew up in a era of participation trophies and an "everyone wins!" mentality
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

This generation has been mollycoddled and helicopter-parented to death; you're left with no ability to cope with someone who holds an opposing point-of-view, and your sense of entitlement has led to a complete inability to deal with losing an election.

I feel pity at this point, really.

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JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
54. My ma' and pa' managed to not give me any trophies....
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:35 PM
May 2016

So idk were you get your meme at, but congratulation on buying into a bunch of BS. Glad to know you resent your parents who I guess did a shit job.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
57. Somebody's having a sad, I see
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:37 PM
May 2016

So, welcome to ignore.

I usually lift em after a week or so.

Ta-ta.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
59. Lol...
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

Why does every generation hate the ones before them and the ones after them (and some hate their own lol)

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
47. If I was a Republican operative, I'd pretend to be a Hillary supporter and push away the younger...
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:32 PM
May 2016

generations. Antagonize the people that are most needed by the party to win. Your doing a great job Hillary supporters in helping out the Republicans!

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
53. I'd pretend to be a Bernie supporter who would never vote for Hillary.
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:35 PM
May 2016

And I'd post endless OPs to that effect.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
50. I talked to some young voters this weekend too.
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:34 PM
May 2016

They said nothing of that sort.

They were however, trying to figure out how to get some cash and score some weed.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
60. they want to restrict the election to the 47% of the electorate that's in the two rump parties:
Sun May 15, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

she'll stay with the ex-GOP conservatives in the registered Dems, and try and peel dissatisfied registered Pubs: the libs representing 70-90% of the electorate can vote for her or stay home and take the blame; if guaranteeing a win means winning with someone who won't play the game, they'd rather lose and keep the system going

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
68. I dunno, when helping my young adults to perceive the world, I do not paint a corrupt picture
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:39 PM
May 2016

for them to rally behind. I think this is the greatest harm Sanders has done. Taking young minds and taking advantage of that.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
69. By "actions" I assume you mean...
Sun May 15, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

The bullshit famtasy stories being generated in Sandernista land. I'm convinced that any sequence of events thqt lead to a Sanders loss would result in these victim fantasies.

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