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You want me to believe BS supporters are victims in Nevada? (Original Post) Tavarious Jackson May 2016 OP
You've been here 6 days - I don't care what you believe Matt_in_STL May 2016 #1
Good one pmorlan1 May 2016 #11
Somebody loses button privileges. opiate69 May 2016 #16
So sad... Matt_in_STL May 2016 #18
I've gotten two hides for posting the stats of the newbies Ned_Devine May 2016 #32
100% agree with you Matt_in_STL May 2016 #35
Yeah, well now I have a visible transparency page Ned_Devine May 2016 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #56
Word up. frylock May 2016 #74
I figure they're just earning a living (who'd do that shit for free?) and put them on Ignore. nt valerief May 2016 #85
Totally Depaysement May 2016 #47
Whoever alerted.. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #22
Whoever alerted lost their alert privileges for 24 hours, because they were shut out 0-7 Warren DeMontague May 2016 #27
"Former Bernie supporter," behavior... gee, where have I heard that? SMC22307 May 2016 #29
That is taking it too far Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #31
You've been here 5 whole days and know... SMC22307 May 2016 #33
I don't care what you think Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #34
AND you knew Bravenak is a female? Even more impressive! Ned_Devine May 2016 #38
I may be mistaken.. but.. opiate69 May 2016 #94
How do you know Bravenak is a her? passiveporcupine May 2016 #46
I am a former Bernie supporter Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #48
Lurker for years? That might explain the attitude. passiveporcupine May 2016 #49
Stakes are high Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #50
It must have been tough trying to hold back these past 45 days or so passiveporcupine May 2016 #51
Stakes are always high. SMC22307 May 2016 #62
Arizona Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #66
Miss Management, eh? SMC22307 May 2016 #67
Yeah, right. "...miss management (sic) of money."? LPCCT.... xocet May 2016 #79
Of course you have. SMC22307 May 2016 #55
Seriously... find new material! SMC22307 May 2016 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #60
I just wish they'd make it a wee bit more challenging. (n/t) SMC22307 May 2016 #64
You know who bravenak is? Who are you? History, please. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #78
Sure you are and I'm the former Queen of Sheeba notadmblnd May 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #58
.. frylock May 2016 #75
"I am a former Bernie supporter." Here's a list of the people who believe that: Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #92
This. libtodeath May 2016 #19
"You're not being paid to believe." SMC22307 May 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #54
'bout the size of it... nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #77
It would have been better for Sanders to make a strong statement against Thinkingabout May 2016 #2
Actually ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #3
Victims of the media, Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #23
We're over it Bruh. Cool story though. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #4
I don't 'want' you to believe anything, elleng May 2016 #5
Yeah, some people are assholes. That's doesn't excuse Roberta and Boxer's behavior. hellofromreddit May 2016 #6
It depends on what you believe happened Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #7
While you're doing all that looking, HubertHeaver May 2016 #12
Well, if you stubbornly insist on believing what you want to believe then you'll likely believe it. hellofromreddit May 2016 #20
No it depends on what happened. timmymoff May 2016 #40
Boxer has been my senator since I moved to CA in 2003. Frances May 2016 #44
I'm not saying she's a bad guy. But she behaved like an ass on that stage. hellofromreddit May 2016 #45
Keep looking. HubertHeaver May 2016 #8
I think your pearls rolled under the couch Fairgo May 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #61
We're all victims of what HC and her benefactors represent. Ron Green May 2016 #10
you could watch the actual videos like we did Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #13
"You expect me to believe (thing I don't want to believe)?! Well, I looked up... Shandris May 2016 #14
Tell Brock I said Hi! BillZBubb May 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #17
You mad bruh? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #21
thank you for "correcting the record" Warren DeMontague May 2016 #26
Bingo MissDeeds May 2016 #59
Mad enough to throw a chari? scscholar May 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #71
Alerted. 4-3 to keep. derpderpderp May 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #73
To believe otherwise is to think that a candidate would deliberately try to craft a narrative about Warren DeMontague May 2016 #24
I noticed Salon is the only source quoted Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #30
also Fox, NY Post, WSJ ucrdem May 2016 #43
You don't believe well I believe that you don't believe yet I don't believe you not wanting bkkyosemite May 2016 #28
No, American democracy was the victim of the undemocratic disfranchisement in Nevada. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #39
LOL, Welcome to GD:P ucrdem May 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #53
Averaging only 27.4 posts a day. SMC22307 May 2016 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #69
Yeah, but with crowdsourcing the way it is Bernin4U May 2016 #72
Piecework = fail. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #81
Not everybody can be employee of the month though. opiate69 May 2016 #86
I'm sure not! Took me about 3 years to hit... SMC22307 May 2016 #90
You can believe whatever in the world you want to. Scootaloo May 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #63
Self-important much? 99Forever May 2016 #65
A lot of people here don't agree with the prevalent reading of Nevada. The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #76
You referenced bravenak. SusanCalvin May 2016 #80
I am NOT. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #84
Oh, I didn't need your assurance you're not her. Not her style at all. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #89
Who are you then, her son? opiate69 May 2016 #91
There's such a thing as history and reputation.... nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #82
I just gave this a rec because I want people to see this garbage. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #83
Just go look at the video, and if your brain is unable or unwilling to correctly process what you pdsimdars May 2016 #87
Just a FYI--Forward Progressives is an in the tank Hillary rag and incredibly partisan pinebox May 2016 #88
OMG you are finally adding working links to the source on your copy/paste OP's. B Calm May 2016 #93
 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
16. Somebody loses button privileges.
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:50 PM
May 2016

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You've been here 6 days - I don't care what you believe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2024891

REASON FOR ALERT

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Abusing posters because of short time on DU is against the rules. It also reads as if the individual is calling out the OP as a troll

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Explanation: Rude. but not over the top. Still. Poster should be ashamed.
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Explanation: I'm not understanding the insult because it makes little sense. Yes, please lay off on this "I have been here longer" stuff. I will be so happy when primaries are over.
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Explanation: Is this really what we've become, a place where one can take off his boots and tread on us as if with smelly socks?

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Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
32. I've gotten two hides for posting the stats of the newbies
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:39 PM
May 2016

I mean, I should have the right to post the stats of someone who just signed up 4 days ago and has over 600 posts, all of which are antagonizing. Especially since we know that the CTR Pac has dumped $1million into creating an online army to combat anti Hillary posts. It's so obvious that we should all be alerting these people. Instead here in upside down world, I'm the bad guy for pointing out the fact that we've been infiltrated by these charlatans.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
35. 100% agree with you
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:51 PM
May 2016

I have seen posters who have been here a week and post OP after OP minutes apart, all antagonistic and with very little substance.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
37. Yeah, well now I have a visible transparency page
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:34 PM
May 2016

My question is; who's alerting on me for posting these stats?

Response to Ned_Devine (Reply #37)

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
22. Whoever alerted..
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:21 PM
May 2016

Thank you. It shows they have no argument when they start calling people trolls.

I am a former Bernie supporter. I know first hand how some have behaved. Sadly, it has developed into a pattern. After awhile patterns become a standard way.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
31. That is taking it too far
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:36 PM
May 2016

I am NOT Bravenak. You are proving my whole point of this thread. Thank you.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
33. You've been here 5 whole days and know...
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:40 PM
May 2016

who Bravenak is? Impressive!

Try again... I don't do victim. Trust me on that one.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
34. I don't care what you think
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:43 PM
May 2016

I am not the person you say. Stop obsessing over her or talk it out with a friend.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
94. I may be mistaken.. but..
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

I'm pretty sure that's dear old brave in TJack's avatar... if one makes the assumption that the young man in his avatar is him, well... the imagination runs wild, eh?

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
48. I am a former Bernie supporter
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:01 PM
May 2016

sometimes you have to shower the dirt off and change clothes. Feeling fresh and clean now.

I have been a lurker for years.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
51. It must have been tough trying to hold back these past 45 days or so
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:12 PM
May 2016

I know we've met before...just can't quite place you.

Don't worry, it'll come back to me.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
62. Stakes are always high.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:21 PM
May 2016

Middle East intervention, Wall Street abuses, womens' rights, voter suppression, racial issues, income inequality, the environment... take your pick. Yet, five days ago was the magic time for you to sign up. Curious.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
66. Arizona
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:36 PM
May 2016

I was a Bernie supporter. Donated more than I could afford. As I was struggling to get by I started paying attention to how he was spending the money people donated to him. I was uncomfortable with the fact that I cut pleasures to give to his cause only to see the massive miss management of money. That was my first feeling of supporting the wrong candidate. More concerns came after that but Arizona was the last of it.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
67. Miss Management, eh?
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:48 PM
May 2016


That the Sanders campaign mismanaged campaign funds is a Brockian myth, but hey, fall for whatever crap you wish. Camp Weathervane counts on it...

Response to SMC22307 (Reply #33)

Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #22)

Response to Matt_in_STL (Reply #1)

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. It would have been better for Sanders to make a strong statement against
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:16 PM
May 2016

The behavior and he did not to see this happen again. He could have left the disparaging remarks about the DNC or the Nevada convention which are not responsible for the bad behavior.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
3. Actually ...
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:17 PM
May 2016

... you're supposed to believe that BS and his supporters have been the "victims" in every state that Bernie has lost.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
23. Victims of the media,
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:24 PM
May 2016

Victims of the DNC, victims of the system, victims of everyone including Elizabeth Warren. :/

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
7. It depends on what you believe happened
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:22 PM
May 2016

Given the history of how BS supporters have been documented acting, it's easier to believe they are the ones trying to strong arm the will of the people who voted in FEB.

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
20. Well, if you stubbornly insist on believing what you want to believe then you'll likely believe it.
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:12 PM
May 2016

You are taking the worst examples you can find and presenting those as the average. It's dishonest at best.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
40. No it depends on what happened.
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:40 PM
May 2016

What one believes happened is irrelevant. I believe DWs cast an evil spell on Las Vegas, did it happen?

Frances

(8,545 posts)
44. Boxer has been my senator since I moved to CA in 2003.
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:52 PM
May 2016

It's very difficult for me to take anyone who thinks Boxer is a "bad guy" seriously.

I can see how you could make out Diane Feinstein not to be progressive, but Boxer???

 

hellofromreddit

(1,182 posts)
45. I'm not saying she's a bad guy. But she behaved like an ass on that stage.
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:55 PM
May 2016

Good people can screw up.

Response to Fairgo (Reply #9)

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
13. you could watch the actual videos like we did
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:25 PM
May 2016

Then you wouldn't have to read faulty second and third hand accounts

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
14. "You expect me to believe (thing I don't want to believe)?! Well, I looked up...
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:33 PM
May 2016

...these other people who I know just as much as I do you, but I'll trust them for no other reason than they have a name I've heard before, so they're like totally trustworthy!"

People really don't understand how they interact with the Medes, do they?

Response to Tavarious Jackson (Original post)

Response to scscholar (Reply #42)

Response to derpderpderp (Reply #70)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. To believe otherwise is to think that a candidate would deliberately try to craft a narrative about
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:24 PM
May 2016

the other candidate's supporters.

http://www.salon.com/2008/04/14/obama_supporters/



Inconceivable!

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
30. I noticed Salon is the only source quoted
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:33 PM
May 2016

these days. I don't remember the 08 campaign. I love Obama but believe the bullying may have happened then too. People go to great lengths to stop a strong woman. I am not talking about Obama, I am talking about his supporters and campaign. I can't say it happened or didn't happen. I can say that people still today go to great lengths to stop a strong woman from success. Hillary has been pushed more than any man has ever.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
43. also Fox, NY Post, WSJ
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:44 PM
May 2016

on a good day . . .

p.s. and I agree, Boxer, Hillary, Chelsea, DWS, Roberta Lange and etc have all been mercilessly bullied in a way that Obama wasn't, though Michelle caught a lot of nasty flak in the press. Nothing like what they did to Boxer tho which is deeply disturbing.

Response to Tavarious Jackson (Original post)

Response to SMC22307 (Reply #68)

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
72. Yeah, but with crowdsourcing the way it is
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:37 AM
May 2016

...these days, the number of workers available is constantly increasing relative to the amount of work needed.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
90. I'm sure not! Took me about 3 years to hit...
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:40 PM
May 2016

2,000 posts. Approx. 1.83 posts/day = slacker territory.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
57. You can believe whatever in the world you want to.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:16 PM
May 2016

After all, we're not going to see you again after June, so go ahead and do whatever, man.

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #57)

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
76. A lot of people here don't agree with the prevalent reading of Nevada.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:45 AM
May 2016

Best to just let it go, it isn't important and it's devisive beyond belief.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
80. You referenced bravenak.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:55 AM
May 2016

I take that personally. If you're her, hi. If you're not, who are you?

Lord, no, I don't really think you're her. Not her style at all.

Brave, I miss you so much.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
87. Just go look at the video, and if your brain is unable or unwilling to correctly process what you
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

see, that's not our problem. Make up your own mind.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
88. Just a FYI--Forward Progressives is an in the tank Hillary rag and incredibly partisan
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

Really no difference than BNR.

They used to be a really good site, I used to follow them in my blog roll and on facebook until they completely changed over night around 9 months ago. I think they were sold and bought.

Just a FYI though, I wanted you to know. The rest are fine.

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