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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:59 PM May 2016

A personal memory of Hillary.

Last edited Sat May 21, 2016, 09:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Hello All!

I’m writing to friends and family and other contacts to share one side of the story about one of our presidential candidates, which may not be familiar to many, at least in the terms that I know them. A hundred years ago, I worked closely with a bright young Methodist student at Wellesley College, where I was serving as a teacher and Chaplain, one Hillary Rodham. She was then, and, I believe, still is a person of deep moral passion, notwithstanding press caricatures of her that have appeared in recent years with predictable regularity.

Hillary came to Wellesley as an enthusiastic “Goldwater Girl.” Hers was a dedicated voice of the Midwestern Right. Then she took the (at that time) required sophomore Bible course, and it changed her life. She was especially fond of Amos, texts such as 5:24, “Let justice roll down like waters.” And she did not just talk the talk.

One example. As president of the student government, she and a group of young women like her (I was a kind of back-row advisor to all this), wanted to address the mostly lily-white complexion of the student body. At that time there were, as I recall, 12 African-Americans in a student body of some 2000. The College’s administration wanted nothing to do with all this. Hillary took the lead with her group to raise money independently to pay for those African-American students to make recruiting trips to predominantly black high schools across the country. Not only had those schools never been visited by Wellesley College recruiters before, they were unknown to the Admissions Office. That project turned out to be a minor success. But my point here is not minor successes, but Hillary’s impressive moral passion and her eagerness to act on that passion.

I have kept close tabs on her personal and political trajectories ever since. Notwithstanding her being the object of sometimes vicious attacks (tell me that sexism is not alive and well in this country) and notwithstanding mistakes of her own along the way, I believe that the faith that she discovered in Amos and the moral passion she exemplified at Wellesley College have not left her. If anything, given the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, that faith and that moral passion have deepened and become the driving force of all she does. I believe that she has added the wisdom of spiritual depth, too, which sometimes comes with maturity. Did you notice that when asked, during one of the New Hampshire debates, about spiritual influences on her life she spoke at length and with some conviction about how much she has learned from that great Catholic spiritual teacher of our time, Henri Nouwen?

I, of course, am not an unbiased witness. I affirm what I once saw, and I affirm what I now see. I have walked the streets of New Hampshire in her behalf and I support her current campaign financially.

I write only with this hope, that, as you continue to reflect about the current campaign, you will take into account her moral passion and her spiritual depth. She is much more than her popular detractors, even on the liberal side, make her out to be. I also believe that she has even more to offer. Her much vaunted “experience” is not something to shake a stick at, for example, not to speak of a certain wisdom she brings with her as a knowledgeable student of history. But those are themes for another day.

Thank you for reading!

LAS14 is posting this on behalf of her husband, who wrote it.

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A personal memory of Hillary. (Original Post) LAS14 May 2016 OP
nice. sometimes things are not as simple as they are portrayed. mikehiggins May 2016 #1
And, unfortunately, even the best among us can become corrupted. Barack_America May 2016 #2
This is soooo needed here ucrdem May 2016 #3
KNR Thank you! Lucinda May 2016 #4
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #5
Yeah.. Fawke Em May 2016 #6
k&r bigtree May 2016 #7
I'mWithHer also. Thanks for your thoughtful OP. oasis May 2016 #8
Something fishy about this copy paste. joshcryer May 2016 #9
Most people that know her say this about her. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #10
Hillary listens and absorbs what people are saying. When oasis May 2016 #27
Strange. HRC supporters usually crap on antidiscrimination work done in college as meaningless. aikoaiko May 2016 #11
Kick for the new day. LAS14 May 2016 #12
I think she *used* to be moral and upright - many, many years ago.. reformist2 May 2016 #13
Still lamenting the death of that champion of human rights, Gaddafi? baldguy May 2016 #16
Not laughing about it like a ghoul, that's for sure. Or ignoring the subsequent chaos it is causing. reformist2 May 2016 #18
Right. You think the world was a better place when he was in power & removing him was a mistake. baldguy May 2016 #19
Libya was definitely a better place when he was in power, & removing him through war was a mistake. Vattel May 2016 #22
The world was a better place when he was bombing airliners & killing Americans. Right. baldguy May 2016 #23
That is not a serious reply, as any informed person will realize. Vattel May 2016 #25
Calling Clinton a "ghoul" & bemoaning the death a terrorist-supporting murderer is serious? baldguy May 2016 #33
Given that Libya is much worse off now, why should they be proud of it? Vattel May 2016 #34
Gadaffi's billion dollar flirtation with Louis Farrakhan was a oasis May 2016 #30
That is a silly response Vattel May 2016 #47
Living under a tyrant who swears any opposition will die in a Mass killing puffy socks May 2016 #46
compared to all of the killing and brutality going on now? yes, definitely Vattel May 2016 #48
still celebrating the chaos, deaths and refugee problems? reddread May 2016 #44
Very moving - from someone who knew HRC then, shows her growth and caring Justice May 2016 #14
"Ye shall know them by their fruits." Vattel May 2016 #15
Yep, your post blows the OP away. Broward May 2016 #21
I can't argue with any of that. Shemp Howard May 2016 #32
THIS vintx May 2016 #35
They have to go away waaaayyy back to her college years to find any good. derpderpderp May 2016 #37
K&R Thank you for sharing. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #17
Here is a good article about Hillary Clinton at Wellesley College PufPuf23 May 2016 #20
That quote at the end is so sad. beac May 2016 #24
Great article. Thanks PufPuf 23. oasis May 2016 #31
Why then does she continue to say she's proud of having been a Goldwater Girl? SheilaT May 2016 #26
her first vote, when she came of age, was for a Democrat bigtree May 2016 #28
+1 Hekate May 2016 #40
Thank you for posting this Dem2 May 2016 #29
Good story. Thanks for sharing democrattotheend May 2016 #36
Thanks so much. I'm passing it on to my hubby, the author. nt LAS14 May 2016 #38
Someone suggested that this might... LAS14 May 2016 #45
KnR. Hugs to you and Mr. LAS14 Hekate May 2016 #39
A bright person all her life! A thinker! A doer! Not just a talker! Her Sister May 2016 #41
Wonderful window into the real Hillary. Thanks, LAS! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #42
Thank you for posting this. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #43

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
1. nice. sometimes things are not as simple as they are portrayed.
Sat May 21, 2016, 11:00 PM
May 2016

I would never think of voting for Secretary Clinton (lots of reasons why) but it is nice to read a testimonial like this that clearly comes from the heart.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
2. And, unfortunately, even the best among us can become corrupted.
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:32 AM
May 2016

I would be curious to know what the husband of the OP has to say about Hill's foreign policy, for example.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. This is soooo needed here
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:41 AM
May 2016

It's been a long time since anyone has said anything nice about Hillary! But also it's great that Hillary's early idealism which I don't remember hearing much about in '08 is getting some attention because she's been so relentlessly vilified that many simply have no positive knowledge of her. I hope this doesn't get catcalls but if you have been here awhile you know the drill. Anyway props to your husband and please urge him to join DU if he hasn't -- but only after the interminable primary season ends in 2 weeks!



 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
10. Most people that know her say this about her.
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:36 AM
May 2016

I noticed when people are speaking to her she listens attentively.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
27. Hillary listens and absorbs what people are saying. When
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

we had brief conversation at a book signing in 2003, I had the feeling she was fully engaged on the subject.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
13. I think she *used* to be moral and upright - many, many years ago..
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:07 AM
May 2016

Not so much in recent years. Power corrupts, you know.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
18. Not laughing about it like a ghoul, that's for sure. Or ignoring the subsequent chaos it is causing.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:28 AM
May 2016
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
19. Right. You think the world was a better place when he was in power & removing him was a mistake.
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:31 AM
May 2016

Got it.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
22. Libya was definitely a better place when he was in power, & removing him through war was a mistake.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

Isn't that obvious?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
23. The world was a better place when he was bombing airliners & killing Americans. Right.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

Good that we all understand your position.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
33. Calling Clinton a "ghoul" & bemoaning the death a terrorist-supporting murderer is serious?
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:39 PM
May 2016

No, it is not. It's moronically simplistic. Any informed person would realize that the removal of Gaddafi from power is something Clinton and the Obama Administration are deservedly proud of.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
30. Gadaffi's billion dollar flirtation with Louis Farrakhan was a
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016

signal to me that he had less than charitable intentions toward the U.S. population in general.

Remember, one of Ghadaffi's offspring was killed in a U.S. attack. Revenge is a great motivator.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
46. Living under a tyrant who swears any opposition will die in a Mass killing
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:43 PM
May 2016

is "definitely a better place"?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
44. still celebrating the chaos, deaths and refugee problems?
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

such a deep soul to be so troubled by injustice.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
15. "Ye shall know them by their fruits."
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:08 AM
May 2016

She is a hawk who supported violent regime change in Iraq, Libya, and Syria, with disastrous, deadly results. She is completely clueless with respect to the war on drugs. She supported the coup in Honduras. She opposed same-sex marriage until 2013. She has been all over the map on immigrant rights. She supported welfare reform. She is dishonest and untrustworthy, and she has shamelessly distorted Sanders's record and ideas.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
32. I can't argue with any of that.
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:36 PM
May 2016

And Hillary's supporters can't argue with your post either. So they will either offer excuses for your points, or ignore them.

PufPuf23

(8,785 posts)
20. Here is a good article about Hillary Clinton at Wellesley College
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:34 AM
May 2016

This article is from the Boston Globe archives. It was originally published on January 12, 1993.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/1993/01/12/hillary-the-wellesley-years/OEapzWGuzSNAFiIHL2zm9K/story.html

Hillary: The Wellesley years

It was too much for Hillary Rodham to take. Here was the speaker at her Wellesley College commencement -- US Sen. Edward W. Brooke -- addressing the 401 seniors who had come of age during the trauma of Vietnam, the civil rights struggles, the murders of Robert F. Kennedy and Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

But rather than offering a thoughtful analysis of the times, Brooke glossed over the issues that so troubled these young women. And Hillary Rodham would not tolerate it. She had been chosen as the first graduating senior in Wellesley history to speak at commencement, and she had spent weeks preparing for this moment.

When she rose to the platform and said she wanted to respond to some of Brooke’s points, there was a palpable stiffening among parents. Undaunted, Hillary Rodham proceeded, in a performance her classmates say they will never forget, to deliver an extemporaneous rebuttal of Brooke. It was not so much her words -- for they seem mild in retrospect -- as it was the fact that in 1969 she dared to challenge a sitting United States senator.

“We feel that for too long our leaders have used politics as the art of the possible,” she said. “And the challenge now is to practice politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible, possible.”

lots more at link

beac

(9,992 posts)
24. That quote at the end is so sad.
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:07 AM
May 2016

In my opinion, she has become the very kind of politician she was decrying.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
26. Why then does she continue to say she's proud of having been a Goldwater Girl?
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

I'd think that if she truly changed, she'd genuinely regret it.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
28. her first vote, when she came of age, was for a Democrat
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

...you know well that Hillary was 17 when she supported goldwater. The events surrounding the Vietnam war propelled her into Democratic politics.

Sanders was **40** years-old before he cast his FIRST VOTE, and that was for HIMSELF!

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
29. Thank you for posting this
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

Very little of the human element, what most of us consider reality, is ever expressed on the internet. I've met her as well and most people would be surprised to learn that what is translated by the media and eaten up my gullible people as shifting on issues is actually a person who is too thoughtful to be a politician. She always tries to give a thoughtful answer when repetition of the sort Bernie is good at is generally what's best for a campaign (Trump's rambling idiocy is a new phenomenon that I can't get my head around yet.)

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
36. Good story. Thanks for sharing
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

As a Bernie supporter who is trying hard to get excited about Hillary this story is helpful.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
41. A bright person all her life! A thinker! A doer! Not just a talker!
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

Thanks for sharing! Much love to you and your husband for sharing!
I'd love to hear more, actually!

With HER!!!

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