2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis isn't that hard, really.
Clinton vs Sanders = your choice.
Clinton vs Trump= Clinton.
Sanders vs Trump= Sanders.
It doesn't matter if some Sanders supporters were jerks, Sanders trumps Trump, aha! that was fun. I also doesn't mater if some Clinton supporters were jerks, Clinton trumps Trump, couldn't resist it once again. If the negatives for either of our candidates are enough to make you stay home and Trump, well, trumps, ha ha, then you, yes, actually you , deserve Trump. You did not fight against him in the only way that you can that matters. I mean really, even that liberal bastion FDR allied with Stalin, (not that any Democratic candidate is anything like Stalin just making the point that liberals can choose the best option left to us.) Dont let perfect be the enemy and all that jazz. Seriously, this is really simple, or at least it should be.
oasis
(49,389 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I appreciate it, I appreciate it from all of you.
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)living in povery, another 16 million living in low income homes, and the fracking highest infant mortality rate of all modern nations. I will never vote to support that. It's immoral and you can't rationalize that away.
I will never support Wall Street, the neocons, and those whose lies resulted in up to 1 million Iraq deaths. If you can rationalize that away, I say shame on you. I will fight all those that put corporate profits above our children.
I get that. We all get that. What makes you think we don't?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Eko
(7,318 posts)Seriously, when have I ever said anything like that? You know what I support? I support reason and logic first, the welfare of Americans, then Sanders, then Clinton, then tacos, then my guitar (I will flip flop on the last two sometimes) then a rock, then dirt, then death, then nothing, (may flip flop on those two, and then way down there Trump. Give me a freaking break.
Eko
(7,318 posts)to find the evidence of where I supported the Oligarchy to present to everybody, but then I took a breath and admitted to myself that your were just being difficult to put it mildly.
On the money!
BzaDem
(11,142 posts)since the primary is more or less over (and it honestly wasn't close, given the proportional rules). The GE has not yet occurred, though my best guess is that the outcome will be the opposite of your prediction in both scenarios.
Furthermore, in terms of fighting in the only way that can matter at this point, the only way that could possibly matter is voting for Clinton in the general.
The only thing in your post that makes sense is that we should not vote for a candidate based on whether their supporters are jerks. Totally agree.
Eko
(7,318 posts)I gave that as an option. I think it is understood that I was not predicting outcomes but was giving the only reasonable option for any liberal, progressive or democrat to vote.
Change to
I understand what you are saying mostly, I mis read the first part of your post, sorry.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)on your side. But I'm guessing that's why you chose to side with the big money fat cats. Being on the winning side is more important than the 2.5 million homeless American children. Corporate profits are more important, right?
Eko
(7,318 posts)I voted for him in my state for the primary, exactly wtf are you talking about? You are way out of bounds and clueless.
Eko
(7,318 posts)You are using a canned attack point for something that I have never stood for. Is there someone there?